Swathi Sangeethotsavam Jan 6 to 13, 2008.

Concerts and other events related to CM.
Musique4ever
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Post by Musique4ever »

Dear CMLover,
It is heartening to see truly classy people too in here, who express themselves with utmost clarity, yet without sounding offensive. I see your point totally....And agree with you completely. Please feel welcome to write to me at [email protected] if you feel so. It would be a pleasure to hear more of what you have to say.
I was just about to sleep after having written the letter you see above this. But your post has put me in a completely positive frame of mind in an instant :-) Thank you very much and have a lovely day.
Kind regards and good wishes,
Varma

ramakriya
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Post by ramakriya »

Thanks for the uploads :) as you had promised I have been waiting for these!

-Ramakriya

Musique4ever
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Post by Musique4ever »

You are most welcome :-)

cienu
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Post by cienu »

Gopalank,

I have always enjoyed your posts & I have observed that you are a great fan of Sowmya.

I wonder what made you all of a sudden , use such stern language and "take off" at the "Prince" !!

SSI was a giant , no doubt . The "Prince" has a different view point about the great man but also admires him on various counts .Ofcourse he has his own opinion on other issues which I think is fair and to which he is entitled to.

His views on SSI and ST may be different from mine , and to be honest , it is..(but to be fair to the Prince , he concedes that we do not have to agree with him)

One of the stellar contributions of the "Prince" has been bringing to the forefront the treasures of Parasala Ponnammal through You Tube. The historic Navarathri Mandapam concerts of this great lady (some of it SSI tuned !) will be cherished by CM lovers for all time :)
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gopalank
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Post by gopalank »

Well, Prince... your post only proves and amplifies my point about the lengths to which you allow your personal prejudices permeate into your assessment of the contributions of a titan of our times. I stick to my view that you have run a relentless campaign of innuendo to discredit and run down the one man who has done the most to publicize Swati Tirunal. Painful indeed, that after many years of service to Swati and his music, SSI should be subject to such judgments, that too from one of his descendants!

So, going by your logic… SSI using the big dhaivatam in Shanmukhapriya is heresy, but BMK replacing one madhyamam with another to ‘create’ a new raga is a stroke of genius and not ‘raga-mangling’? (I’m sure you know better than me that the Shanmukhapriya and many other melodies pre-date the Melakartha classification, BTW… and that the said classification does constrict our understanding & appreciation of old melodies)

You speak of Semmangudi "keeping musicians like MMI, MSG, etc away from my family"... would you really have us believe that he had such power over the all-powerful Amma Maharani to "keep away" other musicians from her, even if she might have wished to hear them perform at the Mandapam? Pass me the salt, will you?

Cienu, I'm glad you've observed my posts. I'm a fan of good and serious CM and of several artistes. I’m generally careful & respectful in my language because I realize I might be talking about subjects on which I’m not an expert. And I simply do not run down one musician in comparison to another, and do not let my judgment of a musician’s character affect my take on his/her musical contributions. I do appreciate what Rama Varma has done to bring fine artistes like Ponnammal into the limelight. But at the same time, I have also observed a steady effort on his part to chip away at SSI’s legacy w.r.t. ST & the Travancore royal family. It pained me and forced me to use stronger language than usual, enough to rattle the prudish decorum of rasikas.org!

[PS - I’m quite amused that my post has riled Varma enough that he threatens listeners with deprivation of a lot of good music, of which he is the self-appointed source! He has employed subtle verbal legerdemain to suggest that I’m somehow a less classy music lover, just because I stepped a little outside the boundaries of politeness and blew the whistle on what he's been upto. So be it! :) ]
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arunk
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Post by arunk »

err - Cant we keep this kind of conflict outside this forum?

Gopalank - if you have issues with the prince w.r.t his voicing of opinions on SSI, perhaps email works best. In case you do not know, one can send emails to other members via the forum (dont need to know their email addresses). Perhaps the whole thing could have been sorted out more amicably. Just my 2 cents if you dont mind.

Arun

PS: BTW, as far as I know, Shanmukhapriya (or its scale) most definitely did not exist (within cm music framework) prior to mela classification
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Dr.Menon
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Post by Dr.Menon »

gopalank wrote:
Musique4ever wrote:While SSI did whatever he could and his efforts are totally appreciated...
Oh, cut the patronizing crap, Mr. Prince... you have always had a chip on your shoulder w.r.t. SSI and his special relationship with your family. God knows why. It's evident from your various public statements as well as that article on the Navaratri Mandapam wherein you made totally unwarranted snide references to "the musician who came disguised to the temple steps during GNB's concert". You may or may not like Semmangudi, but let us not forget that it was mainly due to his efforts that your noble ancestor broke away from the ranks of the 'also-rans' and reached a stage where he is now placed almost on par with the Trinity. No one in the Carnatic firmament outside of Trivandrum cared two hoots about ST until Semmangudi single-handedly popularized his kritis. Mr. BMK's distaste for ST was well known... if you have succeeded in bringing him round to the point where he retunes a Swati kriti in your name, well done, and leave it at that. Leave the potshots at home, thank you very much!
Unfortunate that my very first post on Rasikas.org is going to be in response to a negative comment, nevertheless....being silent at these kind of snide remarks is like aiding them and thus my first post.

Gopalank, I am sure that your verbal attack on Musique4ever (Mr. Rama Varma), only goes to confirm for a fact that public forums are indeed one of the most unhealthy places for sane and civil people to be in, thanks to the many like you that speak their mind out in the most distasteful manner.

You may have a different opinion and irrespective of whether there is any legitimacy in what you say (which may offer scope for another debate altogether), there is always a milder, better, nicer, respectful way to address the subject, other than the terminology you have indulged in.

I don't think Carnatic Music or for that matter, Music, ought to inspire aggressiveness targeted at a personal level. AND, if you think differently to what I have just now said, I can only assume that you are not a true Rasika.

I certainly lack the technical know-how about Carnatic Music that Prince Rama Varma and many others in this forum possess, however, as a true and staunch lover of Music (of all kinds), I can certainly say one thing for sure - that you have a long way to go before you learn to appreciate true music in the real sense of the word, appreciation.

Rasikas.org, I do hope that the Administrators at Rasikas.org will take this experience into consideration and chart a few rules so that henceforth we are not faced with this kind of personal aggression.

Musique4ever, we look forward to your wonderful videos, as always!! Keep up the Good Work.

cmlover
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Post by cmlover »

There are folks here who cannot tolerate frank discussions of Thyagaraja or even the Trinity but will swallow wanton mudslingings on other respected vaggeyakaras. They cannot even brook that there may be others who are unknown whose worth if uncovered may be even more! Every human has warts and there are skeletons in every closet. Historians who seek to record faithfully the story of mankind will dig deep and in that process uncover a lot of muck. Just now we found here in NA that a man who was on 'cloud nine' was suddenly revealed as 'cliient #9 ' and being hounded out. Divinity of CM does not ensure divinity of the container which may be made of plain mud. It is irrational to get angry at the 'seeker after truth' , out of blind hero worship. Our sympathy for the prosecuted should not be turned into anger and contempt at the prosecutor who is simply doing his job: SEEKING THE TRUTH.

cmlover
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Post by cmlover »

lOkO bhinna ruci |
Freedom of expression should never be curtailed as long as it does not become offensive or slanderous!


History of CM is a very valid topic and we should not muzzle folks out of sheer hero worship.
Above all this is a Dicussion group.
Just watch out for your language :)

Nick H
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Post by Nick H »

What a spat.

Yes, Rama Varma and myself are known to each other, but there is no way I am taking sides here. I know absolutely nothing about the actual history that is being discussed.

I'm all for a controversy. Even a heated a argument; why not, it can be good. I have always admired the fact that one way that rabinical students learn and come to understand their Jewish doctrine is by having great arguments over it.

gopalank, I am not in the least surprised that you 'riled Varma'. You have riled me too. It is not what you said, it is the way that you said it. It read to me as a vindictive personal attack and I was sorry to see it.

cmlover
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Post by cmlover »

Nick
touché :)

Musique4ever
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Post by Musique4ever »

My apologies for having allowed myself to be drawn into this sort of thing. There are all sorts of irritants wherever one goes and the thing is to ignore them which is what I normally do. I've read a lot of Balamurali bashing and a bit of me bashing too earlier in this forum and have never responded. In this case I temporarily lost it since I came online just to share some good music with you and with the internet connection being rather dreadful where I am, it takes around 4.5 to 5 hours to upload a video of seven or eight minutes. And with the frequent fluctuations in the power supply one often has to start from scratch after having waited three to four hours in the first place. When a video finally goes up, the satisfaction one feels is akin to having climbed a mountain. And when one is thus glowing contentedly and then some guy comes along sniping at one's heels, one does tend to lose one's poise a bit. In fact I had to edit my response to him several times before it became mild enough to be published. (It got to around 1/5th of it's original length when all the bad words were removed.) I thank those of you who have supported me, both in here and via personal emails. Please watch this space for more videos including some EXTREMELY beautiful Hindusthani gems of Maharaja.

prashant
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Post by prashant »

cmlover wrote:TJust now we found here in NA that a man who was on 'cloud nine' was suddenly revealed as 'cliient #9 ' and being hounded out.
CML Sir - I am sorry for the digression, but this was too hilarious. Just awesome :)

cmlover
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Post by cmlover »

Dear Musique4ever :
I am glad this little episode does not deter you from your desire to share the musical gems of the ST festival. For those of us abroad this is a divine opportunity to hear, see and enjoy the celebrations and get educated. All of us sincerely appreciate your efforts in organizing the Fest in the first place and then taking time to share it with us through this Forum. Also time permitting do participate in our discussions too on the fine points in case we miss them . Independantly we would also appreciate Historical snippets on the life and contributions of HH Swati ThiruNaaL himself to which you may have access which are unknown to us so that we may yet honour the 'Man and his Music' though belatedly.

wordpecker007
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Post by wordpecker007 »

My first post is to thank musique4ever for his sterling work in organising a festival of this magnitude and his willingness to share it with music lovers all over the world.
For more on the person and the musician here is a link that might shed more light on him.
http://carnaticindia.com/ramavarma.html
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Dr.Menon
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Post by Dr.Menon »

wordpecker007 wrote:My first post is to thank musique4ever for his sterling work in organising a festival of this magnitude and his willingness to share it with music lovers all over the world.
You are absolutely right, Wordpecker007!

Musique4ever/Prince Rama Varma certainly deserves to be thanked for the exceptionally well organized musical treat called the Kuthiramalika festival that takes place every January.

These days, to attend a Music concert, one is forced to pay for the ticket and also put up with running commentary on the latest Kancheepuram sari in town. On the contrary, the Swathi Festival that offers a successful formula for Music enjoyment - the free for all seven days festival, organized impeccably, leaves every Music lover touched, one way or the other through the music and the ambience that is created! Those who have attended these concerts even once, would know this to be true.

But, what is even more special is the magnanimity of the person to share it all with True Music lovers all over the world, through YOUTUBE!
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coolkarni
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Post by coolkarni »

Oh Boy !!
We have come a long way in our Democracy in just 60 years !

Prince or a Cool Pauper - Problems remain the same -

Keep it on , Prince ! There many of us who can handle two opposing views and still make our own judgement .Please keep up your end of the debate without getting distracted.

Musique4ever
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Post by Musique4ever »

Here's a Hilarious clipping of Balamurali Sir imitating the various types of rasikas he has encountered during his seven decades as a performer :-)

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=blzBKWuVifQ

cmlover
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Post by cmlover »

Welcome back Musique4ever! This is hilarious and I am sure a private collection. Thanks for sharing. Reaveals a side of BMK which many Rasikas do not know!
Awaiting the HM videos from the swati festival that you had promised...

vasanthakokilam
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Post by vasanthakokilam »

Quite funny. He has had the best vantage point to observe all this over the decades. I wished he kept going with his imitations. The other lighter moment from BMK is where he recites all the railway station names from Andhra to Madras.

arasi
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Post by arasi »

Thank you, M 4 ever. BMK cracked me up. A good response to the rasikAs who imitate him, I think. My favorite impersonation is the one about the jealous vidvAn. Obviously, he was happy doing the comedy routine, knowing that it was going down well with his audience. While the station bit was impressive, this one shows more of his sense of comedy.

Musique4ever
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Post by Musique4ever »

Thank you very much :-)

Here is a Lovely rendition of Maharaja Swathi Thirunal's Hindi Bhajan "Nache Raghunath" in Mishra Pilu sung beautifully by Pandit Ajoy Chakrabarty. The video quality is not very good but the music more than makes up
for it, as you will hopefully agree. This is one of the few songs where I have seen Lord Rama dancing :-)

Nache Raghunath (Part One)
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_blsHbCMLw

Nache Raghunath (Part Two)
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=QxtOmzNMeIs

cmlover
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Post by cmlover »

WOW! Thank you! Thank you!
It is A Joy to watch and hear the Pilu of AJoy!
Could you tell us if you have the notations whether this is the way the Maharaja visualized the piece and composed? Any records as to who rendered them at that time. To visualize Lord Rama dancing the mahraja must have had a touch of the feel of kathakali. Any evidence?

samarasa
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Post by samarasa »

Prince Rama Varma seems to have forgotten to share his own wonderful concert of the festival also up on youtube :).

Deva Deva Kalayami (Mayamalavagowlai)- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBCPVp0nLI8

Paripahi Maam (Mohanam)- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdogeXBMt5I

Kamboji Atta Thala Varnam (Sarasijanabha) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYGnY7HKdC4

Pannagendra Shayana (Ragamalika) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kx2Nu3KIUC0

Kaamini Mani (Beautiful malayalam padam in Purvi Kamodari and Saveri)- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cn2SVjZ4Fso

Jaya Jaya Padmanabha (Sarasangi)- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhFaXQRwqI8

Hope I listed all of them.

Loved this concert :)

cmlover
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Post by cmlover »

Thanks. Nice to know that the Malayalam kriti 'kaamini Mani' in the raga Purvi Kamodari is an original tune of Swaathi himself. Shows how nicely he adopted HM to fit the Southern style.

Lakshman
If youcan help pl give us some info on the deliightful raga Purvi Kamodari...

The Masterpiece Deva Deva (music set by SSI masterfully and ever so popular) has been nicely rendered and the kalpana svarams are very elegant,

Thanks
(The second part of the mohanam is missing. Could you u/l)

Suji Ram
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Post by Suji Ram »

Very nice renderings
Noticed that the talam is kept by foot by the singer. Esp clear in dEva dEva rendering..

kadambam
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Post by kadambam »

The Kambodhi Varnam is simply outstanding. It clearly shows the amount of research Rama Varma has done, before singing it. There are few MDR prayogas and few BMK style brugas & it seems to be aa good combination.

Also, there is so much of sowkhyam and vishranti, which seems to be a rare ingredient in many concerts.

We truly appreciate the efforts you take to share your musical wisdom. Many Thanks..

cmlover
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Post by cmlover »

Also I love the sincerity with which he sings always paying full attention to the pakkavaadyams and encouraging them with smiles. The Prince is evidently a true lover of CM. We may legitmately expect a significant contribution from him to the Art in Future.

ragam-talam
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Post by ragam-talam »

Here's a much younger prince singing (without pakkam) at Paris - a decade ago!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCtCtdSKwO8

cmlover
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Post by cmlover »

Thanks for those clips. They do show his natural proclivity towards HM. Though flashes of BMK style are visible he certainly is not his clone. At present he appears to have established his individuality. The shruti is rock solid! I am sure he has a great future. May Lord Padmanabha bless him.

wordpecker007
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Post by wordpecker007 »

Here is Prince Rama Varma singing "Simhendramadhyamam Alapana" during a concert in Paris in 1998. And without any accompaniment. His voice is a pleasure to listen to. Wish more such concerts were held.
Simhendramadhyamam aalapana. Part One.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMhcIBbS ... re=related

Simhendramadhyamam alapana - Part Two.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WvYfQx7 ... re=related


Then Prince Rama Varma sings an elaborate Thaanam during the same concert.

Thaanam. Part One.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eREdFx_O ... re=related

Thaanam - Part Two.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1RN3aFnKak


Prince Rama Varma continues his concert with Swathi Thirunal's composition 'Rama Rama Gunaseema' in raga Simhendramadhyamam.


Rama Rama Gunaseema. Part One.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Snyw3g_w ... re=related

Rama Rama Gunaseema. Part Two.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpgcezBkKCo

Rama Rama Gunaseema. Part Three.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yeMSXBIo24
For sheer listening pleasure, there is nothing to beat a capella singing.

cmlover
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Post by cmlover »

That ends with a well-deserved applause. The prince is an object-lesson for aspiring practitioners. His mood is just perfect and while the bhava is flowing he is still conscious of the shruti never slipping! Of course the capella singing helped him to immerse in the music without any distraction. It is a sheer delight to watch him experiment with the kalpana svarams without missing the beats. I enjoyed the surprise and genuine delight in his face when he received the final accolades! Was he a teen-ager when this was shot? He is an inspiration to our youngsters who want to learn CM. Thanks very much for sharing these private collections!

ragam-talam
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Post by ragam-talam »

A short excerpt of the prince playing the veena:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=e-1l5tR40eo

Nick H
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Post by Nick H »

As an aside, one only has to get to know him a little to know that he would rather be known as a musician than as a "prince".

cmlover
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Post by cmlover »

The title 'prince of music' is already taken and hence we may endearingly call him 'musical prince' :)

vasanthakokilam
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Post by vasanthakokilam »

I also find calling him 'Prince' takes the focus away from him being a musician. Unnecessary distraction...

ragam-talam
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Post by ragam-talam »

Ok, we can call him Aswathi Thirunal.
Swathi Thirunal's real name is also Rama Varma.

Nick H
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Post by Nick H »

It seems to be a family tradition, calling their men Rama Varma.

Tradition is nice, but there are times...

arasi
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Post by arasi »

By no means is he le petit prince now (see his old video).

VK,
You are right. There used to be musicians in royal courts. A prince who sings for the people is an equal among us. A respected citizen of India...

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Post by wordpecker007 »

What is in a name? Whether he be prince or Aswathy Thirunal or Rama Varma, listen to his music.... That does all the talking for him. The Kuthiramalika festival, as the HIndu calls it, is a royal musical treat. Ses it which ever way you want. We seem to be quibbling over frivolous things. THis festival has again put Thiruvananthapuram on the CM circuit on account of the classy way the festival is conducted... where music, and only pure undiluted Carnatic and HIndustani music (one concert every year), reigns.. And Aswathy THirunal Rama Varma scores a 100 per cent jsut for that.
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arasi
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Post by arasi »

I don't think they are quibbles, only kudos...

cmlover
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Post by cmlover »

I second Arasi! We love the music as well as the musician irrespective of the titles and nom de plumes !
Une rose sous un autre nom encore une odeur sucrée

vasanthakokilam
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Post by vasanthakokilam »

And Aswathy THirunal Rama Varma scores a 100 per cent jsut for that.
Absolutely true.

Nick H
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Post by Nick H »

I just happen to know that RV also has a passion for the French language.

I wonder if CMLover knew that?

If not, then I think he must be psychic! It would be a strange coincidence --- I don't recall that we see much French here.

CML's powers never fail to astound!

cmlover
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Post by cmlover »

CML n'est pas un médium. Il est un psychiatre. Et avec Arasi et Meena (et bien sûr le Prince), il est un amoureux de la langue française

arasi
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Post by arasi »

Amateur de la musique carnatique et psychiatre (CML)!
n'oubliez pas le medecin Ravi!

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Post by VK RAMAN »

njangal malayalathil samsarikkum or ye habla espaniol

Musique4ever
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Post by Musique4ever »

Wow ! A lot seems to have happened since I was here last. Um...yes. Nick is right as usual. I just
call myself Varma normally. Had I been a "Prince" I would have been the prince of Travancore....and
Travancore ceased to exist way back in 1947. There. That settles it I hope.

Here's an interview I did with Balamurali Sir in the year 2003, while you wait for the next Kuthiramalika Upload. The producers of the show generously fleshed it out with Malayalam film music to attract the non classical listeners too, but despite this the interview seems to have come out rather well altogether. Hope you will enjoy this.

Part One
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=1s9-6VHPTd4

Part Two
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=CFa4ptUMMGI

Part Three
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=4PfZhm1lEHw

Part Four
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=nAaynLJl5GI

Part Five
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=XmAH_LrW6wc

Part Six
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=g0CWKr8cCA4

Part Seven
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=SWO1aYMCZTs

cmlover
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Post by cmlover »

Thanks Varma
We now get your side playing the musical host to one of the great CM Musician. Will watch it!

arasi
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Post by arasi »

There is something here to mull over, for those who want to add 'sir' and 'madam' to names!

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