Padajathi varnam

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mohan
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Post by mohan »

I am trying to get some more information about padajathi varnams. As far as I know, a padajathi varnam is (pada) varnam that has pre-composed jathi segments. A lot people equate it with the Daru varnam.

I am only familiar with one Daru Varnam (mathe in Khamas) and it has swaras, jathis that correspond to the swaras and sahithyam that corresponds to the swaras.

Lakshmanji or others do you have the text/notation for other padajathi varnams. Do they all have sahityam for the swara segments? Any more information available on this form of composition?

Mohan

Lakshman
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Post by Lakshman »

Here are the daru varNAs from my database.

Amma jnanam alikkum surya (dv)--Shuddhadhanyasi--Adi--N.S.Chidambaram
Balu mosamayyanura bagayara sami (dv)--Shahana--K/Chapu--Muttiah Bhagavatar
Devi shri rajeshvari kadambari nive karunakari (dv)--Natakuranji--Adi--Vinai Shesha Iyer
Mate malayadvaja pandya samjate matanga (dv)--Khamas--Adi--Muttiah Bhagavatar
Nilamegha shyamalane niruma guna sundarane (dv)--Madhuvanti--Adi--Vinai Shesha Iyer
Sannutangi shri chamundeshvari shatodari (dv)--Vasanta--Adi--Muttiah Bhagavatar
Sarasa dala lochana mukunda unaiallal tarakam (dv)--Khamas--Adi--Vinai Shesha Iyer
Shri raja rajeshvari shritajana palini (dv)--Kapi--Chapu--Muttiah Bhagavatar

mohan
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Post by mohan »

Thanks Lakshmanji - if you have notation for them, can you tell me if they have sahityam and jathis for the muthayi and chitta swaram sections?

Lakshman
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Post by Lakshman »

Muthiah Bhagavatar's darus have only the muktAyi svara sAhityas. Vinai Sesha Iyer's darus have the solkaTTus included. The latter's compositions are specially composed for dance as you may know.
I don't have the notation for N.S.Chidambaram's song.

mohan
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Post by mohan »

Do Vinai Sesha Iyer's darus have sahityam for the muthayi and chitta swaram sections?

Lakshman
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Post by Lakshman »

Yes they do.

janaki_rajan
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Post by janaki_rajan »

Hello Lakshman ji,

Can you provide the lyrics and notations for the Vinai Sesha Iyer's Darus that you have listed in the previous message?
Also, have they been sung by someone and commercially available?

Thanks,
Janaki

NaSa
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Post by NaSa »

very interesting. cannot find much information on Vinai Sesha Iyer. which time he lived? he was from Mysore branch i guess...

Gladfan
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Post by Gladfan »

So just to clarify:

- Do all Daru Varnams have jathis and sahitya for the mukthayi swaram sections
- Do all Daru Varnams have jathis and sahitya for the chitta swaram sections?

This is something that has always confused me. Muthiah Bhagavathar's 'Mathe' varnam is considered a Daru Varnam, which contains jathis and sahitya for the mukthayi swaram but only jathis for the chitta swarams.

However, Swathi Thirunal's varnam contains sahitya for the mukthayi swaram, and no sahitya for the chitta swarams yet it is classified as a padavarnam, and I have even seen it referred to as a daru varnam.

There is a K N Dhandayuthapani Pillai varnam 'Maa Moham' which has jathis for the mukthayi swaram, but sahitya for the chitta swarams. Is this a padavarnam, or a padajathi varnam?

NaSa
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Post by NaSa »

then this Maa Moham is more like svarajathi (where muktayi is set to jathis and svaras, and chitta svaras have satyam).
don't you think so?

ganeshpv
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Post by ganeshpv »

TKG classifies any Varna with Sollukattus anywhere in Varnam as Daru Varnam. They need not be in Mukthayi swara/sahitya. Couple of Daru Varnams have them in Charana Swara/Sahitya.

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