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srinivasrgvn
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arasi
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Inspired lines, srinivasrgvn!
With a mudra too, at that!

rajeshnat
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Srinivasgvn
Very very good, though I have to confess that I rolled my eyes up and down twice like our :rolleyes: ,you not mentioning brindavana sArangA in your poem has put me into a little mood off ;)

suma
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Post by suma »

cool
:) and =)

srinivasrgvn
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balsree
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srinivasrgvn

Very good one !
Whats the Next one ?

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Post by vganesh »

srinivasrgvn! Very nice. It also shows your depth in CM. Keep it up.

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Post by vs_manjunath »

srinivasrgvn- Nice One! 22 nd Mela & it's janyas are my favourite too........What a lovely Mela Kharaharapriya Is!
http://rasikas.org/forums/viewtopic.php? ... priya.html
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coolkapali
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I am sure this will inspire the Shankarabharanam lovers to come out with their own editions.

coolkapali
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Post by coolkapali »

This poem will make a nice impression if stuck at the concert venues during season. :-)

Why dont u send it to THE HINDU or lesser mortals like Katcheri Buzz?
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srinivasrgvn
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ragam-talam
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Post by ragam-talam »

Srinivas, lovely poem! Perhaps someone will sing it on stage - in Kh.priya ragam of course!

(And I also learnt a new word 'appetence' :))

Sam Swaminathan
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Post by Sam Swaminathan »

"yielding an unforgettable Hemavati,
who is the mother of gracious Saraswati!"

Brilliant, srinivasrgvn....You are indeed gifted....please do one on Kalyani when you get the time and the inspiration.....

By the way, can you please explain this ? "to Semmangudi, you wear dear!"

Regards.......Sam

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Post by ragam-talam »

Sam Swaminathan wrote:By the way, can you please explain this ? "to Semmangudi, you wear dear!"
That seems to be a typo. It should read "to Semmangudi, you were dear!"

There are a few more errors in the poem. Srinivas, pls make sure they are fixed before you submit it somewhere.

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Post by cmlover »

Kharaharapriya! Oh, you are delightful to hear,
to Semmangudi, you wear dear!
is perfectly all right. The last line means
'Oh Kharaharapriya! you are a precious (dear) ornament worn by SSI!

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While we're waxing eloquent over this raga, how about a nice old film song which can only be described as dripping all over with the sweetness of kharaharapriya?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Od4Ji_al1D0

I am not normally a big fan of carnatic based film songs, but this one is old enough to be outstandingly 'genuine', replete with some nice brighas ... Can anyone identify the singer ? (not the actress in the clip but the playback singer) Is it a young MLV?
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cmlover
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The actresses are Vijayanthi mala and her real mother(acting) Vasundhara; the singer almost I am sure is MLV...

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Post by vasanthakokilam »

Great song. Does it veer a bit too close to kAnaDa in the asaivu on 'yE' of 'thunai nIyE?

cmlover
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Here is the pallavi line in praise of the poet srinivasrgvn:

kharahara priya nAyagaM
SrinivAsarAghavaM bhajEhaM

(I respect the author Srinivasaragavan of (the poem) kharaharapriya)

The song can be beautifully sung in the raga Kharaharapriya and Adi thaaLam.

If more info can be provided on the author I can complete the song! Anybody want to collaborate?
:)

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Post by vasanthakokilam »

CML, the ending can be the following, if you can work it in:

SrinivAsarAghavan now holds the record for the shortest time in which a song is written about a composer..:) ( man, that is too many words to say what I wanted to say ).

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Post by newyorker »

the singer almost I am sure is MLV...
I am pretty sure too, but there's just a nagging suspicion in my head (maybe, it's just because her voice is young).
Great song. Does it veer a bit too close to kAnaDa in the asaivu on 'yE' of 'thunai nIyE?
I could be wrong but I don't believe so. As far I know, the kampitam on G2 (R2->M1) is acceptable (even welcome) in Kharaharapriya.

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OK! As you please here is the anupallavi..

kharahara priyam..
kaakutstha upAsakam
(madhyama kaalam)
karNATaka sangIta anvEShakam
ati shIgra kIrtiSopAna ArOhitam


( (He) is a lover of the kharaharapriya (raga);
(He) is a devotee of kaakutstha (Lord Rama)

(He) is a researcher of Karnatic Music
(he) has climbed the ladders of fame very fast :) )

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Post by vasanthakokilam »

Nice. :)

bilahari
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Post by bilahari »

CML, madhyama kala for the last two lines is very apt! It never ceases to amaze me how even simple things sound so lyrical in Sanskrit.

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Post by S.NAGESWARAN »

Srinivasrgvn,

A wonderful poetry.

Your thoughts have kindled many of the Rasikas and made them come out with their own composition [cmlover].

With such a deep knowledge in music and particularly about K.H.Priya ragam, you may be in a position to explain my query of Sri MSG'S playing of the ragam K.H.PRIYA mentioned in my thread "M.S.Gopalakrishnan"

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Post by rshankar »

newyorker wrote:
I am not normally a big fan of carnatic based film songs, but this one is old enough to be outstandingly 'genuine', replete with some nice brighas ... Can anyone identify the singer ? (not the actress in the clip but the playback singer) Is it a young MLV?
The actress I think is Vasundhara Devi, Vyjantimala's estranged mother (the latter also obviously acted in this movie). IMO the playback singer is Jayalakshmi of the Radha-Jayalakshmi duo. (Soolamangalam Rajalakshmi of the Soolamangalam Sisters is a distant possibility)

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cmlover wrote:OK! As you please here is the anupallavi..

kharahara priyam..
kaakutstha upAsakam
(madhyama kaalam)
karNATaka sangIta anvEShakam
ati shIgra kIrtiSopAna ArOhitam


( (He) is a lover of the kharaharapriya (raga);
(He) is a devotee of kaakutstha (Lord Rama)

(He) is a researcher of Karnatic Music
(he) has climbed the ladders of fame very fast :) )
CML.
Kharaharpriyam will mean one who likes Rama, the slayer of khara; why not add another line and re write as
kharaharapriyA ragamOhitam
kharaharpriyA dAsam( a dAsA of Sita, who is the beloved of Rama)
kAkuthsthOpAsakam

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Nageswaran sir,
I am listening to the RTP by MSG. I will hear it and let you know very soon. Thanks

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Post by chalanata »

my post script:

pallavi

karharapriane! kaivalya harane

bakthargal priyane! paadi thuthikkum

anupallavi

aadi moola swaroopam neeye

anda charaachara upthbavan neeye

charanam

omkaara naadha utporual aahi

uyarnthor sindhayil ulluvathanniyil

raghavan gnaanathin thathuvamagi

aswatha narayanan paninthuthithethum

(with due regards to all original vaggekaras in the forum!)

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Post by cmlover »

Punarvasu
Thanks for your comments.
I used kharaharapriyam as a bahuvrIhi compound 'kharaharapriya nAma raga yasya priyaH sa kharaharapriyaH taM' (to him who is a lover of the raga named kharaharapriya - which is our poet). I wanted to use minimum number of words to be able to sing sangatis (and also within the taaLa constraint).

I always dissolve the sandhi for thhe readers to understand the individual words (though it is against the grammar rules!)

chalanata
nice work! In your last line you must have 'paNinthu thuthitthEthum'

srinivasrgvn

Go ahead and compose more songs that are informative on CM...

arasi
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CML,
Even without singing, 'ati shIgra kIRti sOpAna ArOhitam' sounds very nice!
Wonder what Sangit Rasik would have said...

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CML,
got the point; thank you for the clarification.

arasi
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Nageswaran,
You have to go back and read all the poems CML has written :)

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Post by vasanthakokilam »

newyorker wrote:
Great song. Does it veer a bit too close to kAnaDa in the asaivu on 'yE' of 'thunai nIyE?
I could be wrong but I don't believe so. As far I know, the kampitam on G2 (R2->M1) is acceptable (even welcome) in Kharaharapriya.
This is not a knock on that song, it is quite melodic. On the execution of G2, many ragas use that with a similar Lalitha or Sampradaya Gamakam but the method and amplitude of the R2->M1 oscillation sounds different in different ragas even with in that same Dorian Tetrachord context consisting of S R2 G2 M ( kAnaDa, Darbar, kharaharapriya, etc. ) let alone other purvangas contexts like thodi. In this specific case, it sounded to me like the oscillation is more than what is normally done in KHP but I am more than willing to be corrected.

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Post by arasi »

chalanata,
Hadn't seen your song until now. Nice!
With the second line of the pallavi, I would transpose it to blend in with the first line. Otherwise, it will be pADit tudikkum karaharapriyan instead of 'baktargaL' pADi tudikkum karaharapriyan. Hope I make sense.
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