How do u put viloma chapu?

Rasika911 · Post by **Rasika911** » 07 May 2009, 19:08

I heard shyama shastris purvikalyani krithi ninnuvina gamari and it said on the cd cover that the talam was violoma chapu, I would like to know how to put this thalam any help will be greatly appreciated

Thanks
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sankirnam · Post by **sankirnam** » 07 May 2009, 21:41

It is the inverse of normal misra chapu, instead of "thakita, thakadhimi", you put"thakadhimi, thakita"

vasanthakokilam · Post by **vasanthakokilam** » 07 May 2009, 22:04

Sankirnam: Is there any differnce between misra chapu songs that starts on 'tha' of thakadhimi vs Viloma Chapu ?

Mohan mentioned in a different thread a while back that the rules of Suladi saptha thalas do not quite apply to misra chapu thala and that each of the
7 beats of MC are on equal footing ( I am paraphrasing ). I meant to follow up on that then but I forgot. May be Mohan remembers that context and clarifies it for us.

I am wondering if this MC vs VC difference itself is purely academic or if it is something musically different?

mohan · Post by **mohan** » 08 May 2009, 05:34

VC you have a good memory - the post where I mentioned this was at http://rasikas.org/forums/post89191.html#p89191

To me viloma chapu is basically an academic exercise.

vasanthakokilam · Post by **vasanthakokilam** » 08 May 2009, 05:40

Mohan, thanks for pitching in. Regarding that observation of yours, with respect to stresses in MC or VC, are all the 7 beats on equal footing? or in thakita thaka dhimi, 'tha' , 'tha' and 'dhi' get a more pronounced stress? Asking because, songs that start on the 'ki' or 'ta' of thakita, the first big stress seems to be on the 'tha' of thaka and it is feelable. Are there any such more or less general patterns that composers typically follow that will let us figure out where in the thala a song starts? I usually have trouble figuring out those songs that are supposedly set to start on 'dhi' of dhimi.