Ideal Sruti for Group singing of Pancharatna kritis

venravi · Post by **venravi** » 16 Sep 2008, 23:52

Please suggest what is the ideal sruti to be tuned for the group singing of pancharatna kritis. Combination of Female vocals, flute and mridangam. As we find difficult to co-ordinate multiple vocalists to adjust to the sruti.

Please post your suggestions.

Ravi

mridhangam · Post by **mridhangam** » 16 Sep 2008, 23:57

Generally it is 1 or C. But if u have lot of females then the pitch generally chosen is 5 or G.

Flute and veena adjust themselves to these two pitches and play for the Pancharatna.

J.Balaji

venravi · Post by **venravi** » 17 Sep 2008, 00:20

Thank you Balaji.

venravi · Post by **venravi** » 17 Sep 2008, 00:21

Another question: If the singer's sruti is 6.5 can she be able to sing at 5?.

sankirnam · Post by **sankirnam** » 18 Sep 2008, 07:55

really there is no "ideal" sruthi... you just have to find the "average" of all the voices in the group and work from there.

martin · Post by **martin** » 19 Sep 2008, 01:28

I agree with the former message. As males usually sing around C# and females around G# , Bflat will be in the middle, so that
when all sing together it will be only a bit lowish for the males and a bit highish for the females. Anyway, that's what my former teacher used to do in a mixed group and it worked,

vasanthakokilam · Post by **vasanthakokilam** » 19 Sep 2008, 01:58

it will be only a bit lowish for the males and a bit highish for the females

You probably meant to say the other way, didn't you?

cmlover · Post by **cmlover** » 19 Sep 2008, 06:02

If the men sing at C and the women at G (as they usually do) maintaining overall G will be fine since C will go with G due to the sa-pa concordance. Those who have other shrutis should try to lower or enhance their shruti to match with C or G...

vasanthakokilam · Post by **vasanthakokilam** » 19 Sep 2008, 06:05

CML, C-G Combination would not work, though they are concordant. It has to be the same sruthi but the octave can be different.

martin · Post by **martin** » 20 Sep 2008, 04:44

vasanthakokilam wrote:
it will be only a bit lowish for the males and a bit highish for the females
You probably meant to say the other way, didn't you?

No, the tanpura was tuned down to B-flat which is below average Sa for males and above the average Sa for females, so I meant what I wrote.