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goks
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Post by goks »

Aro:srmpns
Ava:snpmgrs
Oudava Shadava, Kharaharapriya janyam
Heard this dikshitar composition: Mamava Pattabhiraama in the ragam"Manirangu"(on the radio). Anyone having this or any other song in this raagam?

srinidhi
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Post by srinidhi »

Ranidi Radu- Manirangu-Thyagaraja

Radhakrishnan
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Post by Radhakrishnan »

Swathi Thirunal's jaya jaya padmanAbha

coolkarni

Post by coolkarni »

Somu (in a talkative mood ) singing Ra Nidhi (With MC and Kar Mani)

http://rapidshare.de/files/19440944/Ra_ ... i.mp3.html

BTW Manirangu has an equivalent in HM with a very strange name :
LankaDahan Sarang( as per a comparative table that I picked up from the Internet many years ago.Can someone confirm this ?)

and an alapana by TNS

http://rapidshare.de/files/19443406/05- ... u.mp3.html

Lakshman
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Post by Lakshman »

Coolkarni:
It is lankAdahan sArang (type2). The list was compiled by me in 1993 and posted on karnatik.com sometime later.

Suji Ram
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Post by Suji Ram »

I heard OVK's yArenna sonnaLum in manirangu

coolkarni

Post by coolkarni »

Lji.
Thanks for the info.

meena
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Post by meena »

Kji

Just listened to sree somu's clip, lovely! thanku

coolkarni

Post by coolkarni »

hope you enjoyed the joke in the first 15 seconds of the track :) :)

meena
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Post by meena »

hope you enjoyed the joke in the first 15 seconds of the track
kji
sure did :) and thanks for hinting when u posted the link.

sumram99
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Post by sumram99 »

Kji: After the joke he starts with the Alapanai, then again he says something...about Guru Kataksham. Can you explain bcos, only the where he says "Guru Kataaksham illai na onnum nadakkadu" is heard but what he says earlier was not clear to me.

coolkarni

Post by coolkarni »

not clear to me either....

sriucl
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Post by sriucl »

I hear something like ' evvalavu adi pattirukku...somu..appidingaran...' I guess he is trying to make a point that people commented about his place in the music field ..esp at a time when non-brahmins were not that given an esteem -just like MKT.. He must have been trying to say that though people have had such views, it is because of 'Guru Kataksham' he has managed to survive... After a pause he says ' Guru nadha' and then continues his alapana...There is a sad tone when he says that I think..

Srivathsan

Vimala Bulusu
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Post by Vimala Bulusu »

I uploaded a kriti vinnanammajanani in raga Manirangu and Tal Adi rendered by me
Composer: OVRS

Your download link:

http://www.esnips.com/web/deviganasudha

Regards

Vimala

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Post by Karnaticfan »

One Kriti by Kavi Kunjara Bharati - Padmapeetathil Muthukumaran sewai" is a good one in Manirangu.

Pallavi starts with Ri saa of tAra stAyi, Anupallavi and Charanam starts with Madyama of Madya stAyi - give a kaLai to the rag. In Charanam, usage of pa ni pa ma paa ma gaa ri just juices the essence.

The mudra is ' kavi kunjaran tamizhai uvandu geethangal paada' well fit and beautifies.

Neighbour of Madyamavati, Sri raagams
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Lakshman
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Post by Lakshman »

Coolkarni:
I checked on Lankadahan Sarang and the author B.Subba Rao of Raganidhi says:
Karnatak raga Manirangu has some resemblance to the Audava-Shadava type of Lankadahan Sarang. In Manirangu there is no vakra sanchara in the avaroha and Ga is elongated. Only Komal Ni is used in both aroha and avaroha.
Three other ragas that also have resemblance to Lankadahan Sarang are: shree, Kanakavarali and Shuddha Velavali. But Tivra Ni is not used in any of these.

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Post by Lakshman »

Karnaticfan:
If you have the lyrics of padma pIThattil by Kavi Kunjara Bharati please post it. Thanks.

mahesh_narayan
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Post by mahesh_narayan »

Annamacharya's Jaya Jaya Rama is sung in this raga.

Ashwin
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Post by Ashwin »

There is also a varNam in maNiraNgu composed by SRI Tiger varadAcAryAr starting with the words "kamalAkShi ninnE dalaci..."

Ashwin

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Post by Radhakrishnan »

there is no vakra sanchara in the avaroha and Ga is elongated. Only Komal Ni is used in both aroha and avaroha.

usage of pa ni pa ma paa ma gaa ri just juices the essence.


http://rapidshare.de/files/37411521/vai ... g.mpg.html

Karnaticfan
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Post by Karnaticfan »

Lakshman wrote:Karnaticfan:
If you have the lyrics of padma pIThattil by Kavi Kunjara Bharati please post it. Thanks.
Dear Lakshman Sir,

The lyrics is posted here


MaNirang Aaadi Kavi Kunjara Bharati

(1 kaLai) - eduppu - leaving 2 swara kArvai after samam.


Pallavi : Padma peetathil muthukumaran sEwai
pArkka padinAyirum kaN vENdum

Anupallai: VeTri mayilEri shatru samhAram seidu
VirudukEtanam peTror paripoornA krupayudan

Charanam : Gandharvar mudalAna dEvar poo malar pOda
kavi kunjaran thamizhai uvandu geethagaL pAda

(Like anu.palllavi) AndaNar marayOrgaL vindaiyudan kondAda
Annayanum vaLLi kunjariyoodan kooda
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arunsri
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Post by arunsri »

ennayum varasonnArO of aruNAchala kavi is tuned by ARI in maNirangu
There is also a mISu krishNayyar's composition 'nIku sari' in this rAga

chalanata
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Post by chalanata »

padma peedathi is in Manirangu? I sing it in Kedara gowla.

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madhumita
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Post by madhumita »

mamava pattabhiraama- dikshitar kriti - a masterpeiece in manirangu. describes the pattabhishekham as vividly as possible. best renditions by DKP/DKJ

ignoramus
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Post by ignoramus »

i hav heard a great rendition of mamava pattabhirama from MDR. I think the same was posted sometime back on the forum

rajaglan
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Post by rajaglan »

Goks,

There are many renditions of mamava.
1. Vijay Siva in a Music Today album titled Raamamrutham- a slokam ends the song
This is 'my' best.
2. MS amma - SaReGaMa - radio recitals - CD3
3. Bala Murali Krishna - Anand Audio titled Dikshithar krithis
4. Sikkil Gurucharan - Rajalakshmi audio titled Ramayanam
Hope these help. But none of this has manirangu raga alapana.

coolkarni

Post by coolkarni »

dkp has rendered an rtp in manirangu,too.

thanjavur

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thanjavur

Post by thanjavur »

From this page in Sangeethapriya on DKP,

http://www.sangeethapriya.org/~dkp/

The legendary MSS and DKP, both from the female trinity of Carnatic music, render
Dikshithar’s Manirangu “Mamava Pattabhiramaâ€

shripathi_g
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Post by shripathi_g »

Here is a Mamava Pattabhirama by GNB with alapana:

http://download.yousendit.com/9AACC2BA0250B2CA

thanjavur

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ksrimech
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Post by ksrimech »

Sanjay also sings mAmava pattabhirama really well. A few of years ago, at an off-season concert at MFAC, he sang a brillaint alapana and had an elaborate swaraprastara at navaratna mantape. The influence of GNB's music was ver much evident in that .

The concert also had a great renditions of mundu venuka (darbar), bagumeera kanunatho (shankarabharanam) and shivakama sundari (mukhari).

I wish this concert is made available commercially.
http://www.hinduonnet.com/thehindu/fr/2 ... 670500.htm

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Post by rajaglan »

ksrimech,

I have heard an album in which Sanjay sings jaya jaya padmanabha in manirangu for duration 20min. It is a december season concert 2002 at NGS released as album by CDW.
It is a good one by Sanjay. nagai muralidhar and srimushnam raja rao accompanies him.

thanjavur

Post by thanjavur »

Nada Anuboothi
http://home.sprynet.com/~dsivakumar/music/intromus.htm

Music Categories > Carnatic - Vocal > Ragas M... > Manirang

has the following,

Mamava Pattabirama by BVR-BVL (04:49)
Mamava Pattabirama by DKP (19:26)
Mamava Pattabirama by M Santhanam (04:49)
Ranidhi Radhu by MBK (06:36)
Ranidhi Radhu by Madurai Somu (05:22)
------------

Links from Sangeethamshare/Sangeethapriya

Mana Thyagarajulu Parama - Madurai Somu (Incomplete)
http://www.sangeethamshare.org/tvg/138. ... nu-Adi.mp3

Ranidhi Radhu - Madurai Somu
http://www.sangeethamshare.org/kl/30-So ... iRaadu.mp3

Mamava Pattabirama - Brinda & Mukta
in this ZIP file,
http://www.sangeethapriya.org/~murthy/0 ... art-II.zip

arunk
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Post by arunk »

hi,

can people enlighten me on the stories behind the following lines in the charanam of the oothukkAdu maNirangu song "(y)Arenna sonnAlum" question regarding a few charanam:

tOlayaRindu kani dUra eRindu
veRum tOlai tuNindoruvan tandAnallavO!

mElaippiDi avalai vENumenRE terindu
virumbi oruvan anRu tandAnallavO!

kAlamellAm tavam irundu kanindu kani
kaDittu suvaittoruvaL tandALallavo!

I know the second one is kucEla. But what about the first and third one?

Thanks
Arun
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ksrimech
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arunk sir, the first one is about vidurA and the third one is about SabarI

arunk
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Post by arunk »

thanks ksrimech sir. Can you please elborate the story line behind the words mentioned here if possible?

Thanks
Arun

rshankar
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Post by rshankar »

The second is about sudhAmA and the episode of pOhA (aval)...

arunk
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Post by arunk »

anybody know the details of choice of words used in other two sections regarding vidurA and SabarI?

Thanks
Arun

rshankar
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Post by rshankar »

Arun,
I am not sure if I understood your question, but this is what I took it to be: here is the explanation for the sabari mOkSam episode - kAlam ellAm tavam irundu, kanindu - Sabari spent YEARS waiting for the lord to show up in the ASram - her guru (matanga, IIRC) had asked her to wait for Him as he left his mortal coil, and left the ASram in SabarI's care, and per his instructions, she waited patiently performing penance (tavam irundu), and in the process she became old and wizened and wise (kanindu). And when the lord did arrive, she was so clear and insistent that she would only offer sweet fruits (kani) to Him, that she tasted them first before presenting them to him (kaDittu, suvaittu tandAL).
Is this what you were looking for? The words literally dance in front of ones eyes, right?
This is open to other interprettation and corrections...

arunk
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Post by arunk »

ravi,

thanks. Thats exactly what I was looking for. I wasnt looking for story behind the story, as i dont know the story itself that well and wanted to know it!

Arun
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arunk
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i did some googling and got some information on the vidura episode but there seem varying versions. Some say vidura's wife gives Krishna banana skin instead of banana as she forgets herself in devotion to Lord and vidura chides her etc. In other versions, it is vidura himself who gives the banana skin forgetting himself. But in this song, the words imply that it is vidura who is bold enough (tuNIndu) to give it, sort of giving a connotation that he knew he was giving the skin (??) - or that could an extraneous interpretation i am making.

Can someone give a better picture?

Arun

thanjavur

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rajaglan wrote:ksrimech,

I have heard an album in which Sanjay sings jaya jaya padmanabha in manirangu for duration 20min. It is a december season concert 2002 at NGS released as album by CDW.
It is a good one by Sanjay. nagai muralidhar and srimushnam raja rao accompanies him.
Jaya Jaya Padmanabha - Sanjay

First song in the zip file,
http://www.sangeethamshare.org/sundaram ... 202004.zip

vijay
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Post by vijay »

Ksrimech I was there at the MFAC concert too - brilliant Manirang - probably the only time I hae heard it as a main! TMK often sings Mamava Pattabhirama in the tukkada section - his rendition is also very nice. I also liked a Priya Sisters renditions in one of their earlier commercial releases.

Among the veterans, DKP/DKJ had a marked preference for this raga.

Nothing that can come close to Mamava Pattabhirama in this raga though - it is truly the Pattabhirama of Manirang compositions!

arunk
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Post by arunk »

thanjavur wrote:
rajaglan wrote:ksrimech,

I have heard an album in which Sanjay sings jaya jaya padmanabha in manirangu for duration 20min. It is a december season concert 2002 at NGS released as album by CDW.
It is a good one by Sanjay. nagai muralidhar and srimushnam raja rao accompanies him.
Jaya Jaya Padmanabha - Sanjay

First song in the zip file,
http://www.sangeethamshare.org/sundaram ... 202004.zip
Sorry - but wouldnt this be a commercially released album? If so, pl. delete it.

Arun

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coolkarni

Post by coolkarni »

http://www.badongo.com/file/2216681

a lovely Ra Nidhi, by

Parupalli Ramakrishnayya Pantulu

Ashwin
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Post by Ashwin »

arunsri wrote:ennayum varasonnArO of aruNAchala kavi is tuned by ARI in maNirangu
There is also a mISu krishNayyar's composition 'nIku sari' in this rAga
I know of tyAgarAjA's "nIku sarievvarurA" in maNirangu - can someone provide the lyrics for the mISu kRSNayyar song? Another composition of mISu kRSNayyar is "SRI rukmiNi", which is sung with a beautiful and lively cittasvaram (AlattUr veNkatESa ayyar).

Ashwin
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Lakshman
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Post by Lakshman »

nIku sari evarUrA is by Tyagaraja but no such song is there by Mishukrishna. Apart from shrI rukmiNIsha there is another song by Mishu Krishna Iyer in maNirangu-pAvanamurA.

Ashwin: Do you have the lyrics for shrI rukmiNIsha?

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