Fans of John McLaughlin & Shakti anyone?

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thinker225
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Hi,

I take pleasure in initiating this discussion on the world's first North-South(in the Indian classical music context) fusion band and purely acoustic in nature during the time of it's inception. The founder members ->

1. Dr.L.Shankar on the violin.
2. John McLaughlin on the acoustic guitar.
3. Ustaad Zakir Hussain on the tabla and Kanjira and Konnakkol.
4. Maestro T.H. Vikku Vinayakaram on the Ghatam, Mridangam and Konakkol.

The present day avatar of this band is Remember Shakti. It's members ->

1. John McLaughlin on the electric guitar.
2. Mandolin U.Srinivas on the mandolin.
3. Shankar Mahadevan as guest artist on the vocals.
4. Ustaad Zakir Hussain on the tabla and world-percussion.
5. Maestro Selvaganesh on the Kanjira, Mridangam, Ghatam and other forms of percussion.

The Shakti movement has had the reputation of presenting technically brilliant and mind blowing music to it's audiences from the time of it's inception. I would point out that certain other bands exist today which are heavily influenced by Shakti. They are Mynta, Trilok Gurtu & his band of musicians(no single band as such :)), Silk. Many modern Indo-Jazz fusion exercises use Shakti as a benchmark, an unattainable one though. :)

thinker225
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For those who do not know, John McLaughlin is considered as God of Guitar in the Jazz world. His improvisations with fellow guitarists Al Di Meola and Paco DeLucia are famous and prodigious, well known as "Friday Night in San Francisco" when they created history by forming an all-acoustic guitar triumvirate.

http://www.allaboutjazz.com/php/article.php?id=10813

Their videos are available on youtube too.

arasi
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I have been a fan of McLaughlin for many years. Was fortunate enough to listen to him once--It was with Zakir, Selva Ganesh and Mandolin Srinivas, a few years ago. Thoroughly enjoyable concert...
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Remember Shakti numbers are also available on musicindiaonline. Btw, which do you feel is better, Shakti or Remember Shakti?

Im A Skal Man
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Shakti has been a really inspirational and innovative group for all of the reasons mentioned above. Listening to the percussion exchanges is amazing. Additionally, John McLaughlin's approach to the problem of harmony in Indian music is noteworthy–using jazz chording to support the soloist while not betraying the raga.

That said, I don't really enjoy sitting down to listen to the group. While the technical virtuosity of the musicians is amazing it can also be headache inducing to hear breakneck playing for 20 minitues. It seems a bit self-indulgent. I prefer simplicity–rendering a beautiful melody with feeling.

To my ears, the most successful blend of Indian music and western guitar music in recent years is Mahima by Debashish Bhattacharya & Bob Brozman. Masters at their instruments but also really enjoyable songs with beautifuly layered parts. Not traditional–good listening for those interested in east/west fusion.
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Nick H
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Post by Nick H »

Never was a John McLaughlin fan.

No criticism, just purely personal taste.

Might even change one day! Music is like that...

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For 8.5 years I have been listening ONLY to music by Dr.L Shankar, Dr.L Subramaniam, John McLaughlin, Zakir, Palghat Mani Iyer, Vikku Vinayakaram, Mahavishnu Orchestra. I've begun to understand the Sangathis. I don't have any formal training in music(I was trained only in percussion) though. So, I consider these as my Guru's, especially Shakti which got me back into practicing my mridangam 1 year after I discontinued 7 yrs of formal tutelage. For 8.5 yrs I have been listening only to the L brothers, Trilok Gurtu, John McLaughlin, John Mahavishnu Orchestra, Al Di Meola, Paco DeLucia, Mynta and of late Miles-Davis, Chick Correa and John Coltrane. Though I'm not learning formally now, I've improved a lot than when I was learning formally. As long as I was learning, I had something to play from the notes my Sir gave me. But when i discontinued, I didn't feel the need to practice the same old lessons. It's good in a way that I discontinued. I began to experiment with newer rhythmic patterns many of them inspired by Palghat Mani Iyer, Zakir and Vikku. These people were my Manasika Guru's for around 9 yrs. The fact that I'm able to hum Raga's along with Tanam's and have composed long solo's on the mridangam is a testimony to the extent to which I was inspired by Shakti. Shakti gave me the guts to dabble with other percussion instruments and inspired me to learn music. The result being I now play the Ghatam, Kanjira, Conga's-Bongo's, the Western drums, Tabla, and of course the mridangam. About a year back, I composed a Talavadya ensemble concert that had 9 percussion instruments split between me and my friend(a fellow percussionist). I can never forget the influence that Shakti had/still has on me. Shakti came like a Renaissance into my life...something I thank God for.

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I honestly think they would be delighted to know that they have influenced you in this way.

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I just hope :) Not just me... I have generally seen that many people of my generation were "sucked back" into Carnatic and Hindustani because of Shakti.
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I personally know one violinist who was to have quit her tutelage under Lalgudi Jayaraman's student. She heard L Shankar when she was in school and she's now a scholarship awardee in violin and very recently became an AIR Yuva artist. She can now perform on the National Radio and National Television. She too attributes her inspiration to Shakti.
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