Please help me with the identification of raga of the Ashtapadi "Chandana Charchita". The Youtube link is given below.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlAdBPoU5MQ
Thank you,
Meenalochani
Need help in raga identification
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The first one minute is spent by Yesudas singing a shloka from Narayaneeyam in the raga Hindustani Kapi.
The song is sung in a raga called Vasanthi.
The song is sung in a raga called Vasanthi.
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Rsachi Sir,
Thank you very much for your quick reply. Could you give me more details about Vasanthi ragam (Arohana, Avarohana etc.)?
Meenalochani
Thank you very much for your quick reply. Could you give me more details about Vasanthi ragam (Arohana, Avarohana etc.)?
Meenalochani
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Rsachi Sir,
I googled for information about Vasanthi raga and I am not convinced that Chandana Charchita is sung in Vasanthi ragam. It sounds a little bit like Mohana raga. There is a much better version of the song rendered by Unnikrishnan but in an album on Youtube.
I googled for information about Vasanthi raga and I am not convinced that Chandana Charchita is sung in Vasanthi ragam. It sounds a little bit like Mohana raga. There is a much better version of the song rendered by Unnikrishnan but in an album on Youtube.
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These are the versions of vAsanti.
vasanti--11--S R G P N S--S N P G R S--rp--N
vasanti--16--S M D N S--S N D P M G P M R S--rp--SU
vasanti--27--S N D N S--S N D P M G P M R S--rp--SU
vAsanti--27--S R G P D S--S D P G R S--p--TAS
vasanti--11--S R G P N S--S N P G R S--rp--N
vasanti--16--S M D N S--S N D P M G P M R S--rp--SU
vasanti--27--S N D N S--S N D P M G P M R S--rp--SU
vAsanti--27--S R G P D S--S D P G R S--p--TAS
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Meenalochani
You're right. The tune is mostly based on Mohana or Hindustani raga Bhoop. But there are other swaras thrown in for colour. Listen to the instruments from 3:00 to 3:20.
I now feel it is closer to Janasammodini which is as a scale Mohana with N2 added, rather than Vasanthi which has D1 instead of D2. So please note the new raga diagnosis
About the three raga scales:
Mohana . . . . . . . .S R2 G3 P D2 S. S D2 P G3 R2 S
Janasammodini S R2 G3 P D2 N2 S. S N2 D2 P G3 R2 S
Vasanthi. . . . . . . S R2 G3 P D1 S. S D1 P G3 R2 S
Just one note N2 added to Mohana in one case, one note changed in the other D2->D1.
You can listen to Janasammodini here:
https://youtu.be/gFcl4ReZR-8
One caveat is that in the original song, the raga used stresses the notes in a scalar way (as if it is played on a keyboard) but classical renderings always have glides and not just notes and emphasis on jiva swaras etc. So we need to take raga names in filmy music with a pinch of salt always.
You're right. The tune is mostly based on Mohana or Hindustani raga Bhoop. But there are other swaras thrown in for colour. Listen to the instruments from 3:00 to 3:20.
I now feel it is closer to Janasammodini which is as a scale Mohana with N2 added, rather than Vasanthi which has D1 instead of D2. So please note the new raga diagnosis
About the three raga scales:
Mohana . . . . . . . .S R2 G3 P D2 S. S D2 P G3 R2 S
Janasammodini S R2 G3 P D2 N2 S. S N2 D2 P G3 R2 S
Vasanthi. . . . . . . S R2 G3 P D1 S. S D1 P G3 R2 S
Just one note N2 added to Mohana in one case, one note changed in the other D2->D1.
You can listen to Janasammodini here:
https://youtu.be/gFcl4ReZR-8
One caveat is that in the original song, the raga used stresses the notes in a scalar way (as if it is played on a keyboard) but classical renderings always have glides and not just notes and emphasis on jiva swaras etc. So we need to take raga names in filmy music with a pinch of salt always.
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Lakshman-ji
Thank you.
Thank you.
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Rsachi Sir,
Thank you very much for taking the time to write so much useful information in your post. I am very much interested in learning to sing this melodious song and knowing the raga details will be quite helpful. In fact I am giving a Youtube link below of the song rendered by P. Unnikrishnan in the same raga.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqV92khdeeA
Lakshman Sir,
Thank you very much for information about different versions of Vasanthi raga. By the way, do you happen to have the notations for the song in the raga I am interested in?
Thank you very much for taking the time to write so much useful information in your post. I am very much interested in learning to sing this melodious song and knowing the raga details will be quite helpful. In fact I am giving a Youtube link below of the song rendered by P. Unnikrishnan in the same raga.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqV92khdeeA
Lakshman Sir,
Thank you very much for information about different versions of Vasanthi raga. By the way, do you happen to have the notations for the song in the raga I am interested in?