Respected All,
I request your co - operation to solve a confusion regarding the above mentioned subject.
happened to see Bhavayami with a trikala jathi. is it possible to add like that in a keertana..... if so pls make it clear.
as far as my knowledge trikala jathis have seen only in varnams. is there any rules applicable for
adding jathis in each & every items which comes under a Maargam.
Bhavayami Raghu.............
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ardhanariswar
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Re: Bhavayami Raghu.............
Interesting question!
Traditionally some Keerthanams include a short Jathi in the beginning, similar to the Jathiswaram.
In my opinion, the Thrikala Jathi is used in the Varnam to sort of build tension and suspense in the beginning. The rest of the Jathis after that are short and crisp in contrast. Certain elements in the Thrikala Jathi foreshadow what will usually come up in the Varnam, the long length, the upcoming Jathis ahead, and the use of different tempos throughout the piece.
But I think it depends on the context. If you plan on extending the Keerthanam through more Sangathis and elaboration of stories, in essence treating it like a Varnam, then don't hold back, include a couple more quick Jathis. It certainly won't be 'traditional' though.
I choreographed Vittuvidada Seethayee similarly, starting of with a Trikala Jathi in the Pallavi, and then a Jathi each at the beginning of the Anupallavi and Charanam. I will add that it was a group piece, more like a dance drama with various characters. I wanted to depict the scene where Ravana kidnaps Seetha, and I used different jathis for different characters, etc.
If you do borrow jathis, make sure the thalams and eduppus match up correctly.
Traditionally some Keerthanams include a short Jathi in the beginning, similar to the Jathiswaram.
In my opinion, the Thrikala Jathi is used in the Varnam to sort of build tension and suspense in the beginning. The rest of the Jathis after that are short and crisp in contrast. Certain elements in the Thrikala Jathi foreshadow what will usually come up in the Varnam, the long length, the upcoming Jathis ahead, and the use of different tempos throughout the piece.
But I think it depends on the context. If you plan on extending the Keerthanam through more Sangathis and elaboration of stories, in essence treating it like a Varnam, then don't hold back, include a couple more quick Jathis. It certainly won't be 'traditional' though.
I choreographed Vittuvidada Seethayee similarly, starting of with a Trikala Jathi in the Pallavi, and then a Jathi each at the beginning of the Anupallavi and Charanam. I will add that it was a group piece, more like a dance drama with various characters. I wanted to depict the scene where Ravana kidnaps Seetha, and I used different jathis for different characters, etc.
If you do borrow jathis, make sure the thalams and eduppus match up correctly.
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Umesh
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Re: Bhavayami Raghu.............
This song and others like it (e.g., Jayadeva's Dashavataram) have come to replace varnams in some modern margams. Jathis are borrowed from the padavarnam format to create a sort of pseudovarnam which has all the elements of a varnam but is pieced together differently.
And no, adding in trikala jathis to other pieces like padams or thillanas generally would not be appropriate. This jathi serves a very specific purpose and is only applicable to padavarnams (or their replacements).
And no, adding in trikala jathis to other pieces like padams or thillanas generally would not be appropriate. This jathi serves a very specific purpose and is only applicable to padavarnams (or their replacements).
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aatma
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Re: Bhavayami Raghu.............
My Sincere Thanks to all.