Award of Rasikapriya to DRS

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kalgada78
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Post by kalgada78 »

That's nice to see Hindu joining the list finally.
DRS,I didn't know that your wife also sings.Please put up her audio clip also,if possible.
Gratulations to you!

Suji Ram
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Post by Suji Ram »

That was a very nice, elAborate suraTi...
and congrats again on appearing in "The Hindu".

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Post by ramakriya »

Good neraval on alamElu mangAsamEtam, by both artists :)

-Ramakrita

arasi
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Post by arasi »

It ain't no SIKRIT that Srikaanth is well versed in id and ego as well as in dA , gA and all the swarAs. DRS, when I heard this, it seemed as though I continued listening to you that day in March(of course, Jyotsna adds to the enjoyment here) with Pruthvi on my lap and Sahana relishing your singing. Darn, but for the thought that there was a train to catch, the singing would have continued...

coolkarni

Post by coolkarni »

Congrats DRS !!

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Post by rshankar »

CONGRATULATIONS...DRS!

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Post by cmlover »

Dear DRS
While not trying to rush, I would request you to indicate the highlights of the SuraTi composition; of course traditionally rendered. You took me by storm in the shower of the svaras. (great support from Jyotsna too! who occasionally was leading you :) I am still trying to search for special prayOgas there! SuraTi is a northern import, right! It is close to kedaragowLai but sounds quite different. How did it earn the status of becoming the concluding raagam in CM? What is the HM analogue (I am asking this to persuade sarma/Kji to share their HM wealth with us :)

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Post by Suji Ram »

http://rasikas.org/forums/viewtopic.php?pid=6654#p6654

CML,
There was a discussion about suraTi before in the above thread.
More with respect to the composition is offcourse welcome!

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Post by cmlover »

Suji
That is what I am looking for! I am trying to tap into the insight and Fund of info that DRS has !
I hope ramakriya/aruN will pitchin too!
What is the accepted aro/avaro of SuraTi?

kalgada78
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Post by kalgada78 »

Cml Sir,
As you know,it is difficult to bind Surati in a scale but roughly it is :
sa ri ma pa ni da ni sa
sa ni da pa ma ga pa ma ri sa..
but "ri ma pa ni ni sa" is also valid and also "Ni da pa ma ga ri".
"ma ga ri ma sa" is also valid.

Experts may chip in and add more points.

Sarma.

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Post by cmlover »

My notes I have dhaivata varjya arohanam!
DRS uses 'pa ga pa ma rii..' (21:08)! Is this permitted or is it a 'Freudian slip' that he forgot his ma :)

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Post by kalgada78 »

Cml Sir,
As Manodharma allows us sometimes,to experiment a bit without too much digression :-)

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Here is the report of the honouring of their native son from the State:
http://starofmysore.com:80/main.asp?typ ... &item=2401

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Post by arasi »

hasanAda hAssanadavarigE matte namma karaghOsha...
We applaud the top rated rasikA (who hails from Hassan) once again...
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vasanthakokilam
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Post by vasanthakokilam »

Excellent.

cmlover
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Post by cmlover »

Time for the thukkada :)
Here is a quick moving KalyaaNavasantam
innu daya bArade - kalyANa vasanta - khaNDacApu - Purandara Dasa
http://www.rogepost.com/n/0281032956
( have skipped the excellent tani by Amuthan which I will post if one of you laya expert would promise to comment and explain!)

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Post by Suji Ram »

DRs,
A moving rendition in kalyANavasanta.
I found the lyrics in wiki, however your version is slighthly different.

Anyone for complete meaning? Can understnad to some extent.

innU dayabArade rAgA: kalyANi / kalyANavasanta ATa tALA

pallavi:


innU dayabArade dAsana mEle innU dayabArade


anupallavi:


pannaga shayana pAlkaDaloDeyana krSNa


caraNas


nAnA dEshagaLalli nAnA kAlagaLalli nAnA yOnigaLalli nalidu puTTi
nAnu nannadu emba narakadoLage biddu nInE gatiyendu nambida dAsana mEle


kAmAdi SaDvarga gAdhAndhakAradi pAmaranAgiha pAtakiyu
mA manOharane chittaja janakane nAmave gatiyendu nambida dAsana mEle


mAnasa vAcA kAyadi mALpa karmavu dAnavAntaka ninnAdhInavalle
Enu mADidarEnu prANa ninnadu svAmi srInAtha purandara viTTala dAsana mEle

Ahiri
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Post by Ahiri »

DRS and Sahana also explained to us the meaning of the words in the
Charanam of Sri Venkatagirisham.

Jalaruha mitraabja shtrunethram !!

The sun and moon are his eyes !

Sun , the friend of a lotus flower
and the moon its foe !

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Post by drshrikaanth »

Thanks friends.

And Suji- thanks for the lyrics.

cmlover
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Post by cmlover »

Yes! meanings please! That will help enjoy this nice lyric of dAsA!

Thanks ahiri
for sharing that beautiful epithet of MD.
But the meaning you offered is not strictly correct.
jalaruha mitra is Sun (friend of lotus)
abja shatru is moon (the foe of lotus)
But if these are described as the eyes then the expression should be
jalaruhamitrAbjashatrunEtrE ( accusative dual and not singular should be grammatically correct.) So did MD goof? I guess not.
nEtraM here means 'leader' and the whole means
' him who is the leader of the Sun and the Moon'.

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Post by drshrikaanth »

cmlover wrote:But if these are described as the eyes then the expression should be
jalaruhamitrAbjashatrunEtrE ( accusative dual and not singular should be grammatically correct.) So did MD goof? I guess not. .
??? Why would it be nEtrE. The song is in the 2nd case. "SrI vEnkaTagirISam AlOkayE vinAyaka turagArUDham

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Post by drshrikaanth »

I see the dual bit now. Referring to sun and moon as eyes is a common metaphor among many and particularly with MD. The eyes are what are being referred to I think. For leader it should be "nEtAram" is it not?

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Post by ramakriya »

asya nEtrE jalaruha mitra abja Satru sadRSam astIti jalaruhamitAbjaSatRunEtraH ;

tam -> jalaruhamitrAbjasaSatRunEtram


What is wrong with this vigrahavAkya?

I have also heard the following pAThAntara

jalaruhamitrAbjasadRSa nEtram

One who's eyes are like the sun (jalaruha mitra) and the lotus (abja)

While grammatically correct, I am sure is not the original intent of the composer.

-Ramakriya
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cmlover
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Post by cmlover »

DRS
nEtraM here meaning leader is direct and not derived from 'nEt^Ri' (see Apte meaning 9)
ramakriya
You are looking at a bahuvrihi compound which is the right track.
MD is not referring to the eyes which requires the dual but to the one who is
Sun-Moon-eyed. Thanks. just change in the vigraha
asya nEtrE jalaruha mitra abja Satru sadRSam sta(dual) iti :)

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Post by ksrimech »

cml - how about this interpretation?
jalaruhamitra nEtram - the eye He shows to the enemies of the bhAgavathas (Eriyum kaNgal) and
abjaSatru nEtram - the eye He shows to the bhAgavathas (kuLirnda kaNgal). (viz. ANDAL's pAsuram from tiruppAvai 22: tiNgaLum Aditiyanum ezhundAr pOl kaNgal"). Hence, while nEtram is in second case and singular as DRS and you pointed out, we can consider one eye being denoted by sUryan and one eye by candran.
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cmlover
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Post by cmlover »

ha
oru kaNNil veNNayum maRu kaNNil SuNNAMbuM !

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Post by ksrimech »

cmlover wrote:ha
oru kaNNil veNNayum maRu kaNNil SuNNAMbuM !
There also my interpretation, which I'm sure you will find in nAlAyiram: veNNai for bhAgavatAs - bhOgyam
suNNAmbu for abhAgavatAs - mrutyU (kAlan) - namely, rAkSasAhA aka puNyajanAhA.

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Post by rshankar »

I guess eyes like the sun and moon - if OVK predated the trinity, he used 'candra sUrya nayana' first!
ANDAL used 'kadir madiyan pOl mu(kh)gattAn' - and I guess in all situations, the reference is to the 'scorching sun to enemies' and the 'cool protection of the moon to believers', right?

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Post by ksrimech »

Shankar, you are correct. Please look at my post (#225 on this thread).

syama
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Post by syama »

Dear Dr. Srikanth,

Thanks a lot

Syama

rajeshnat
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Post by rajeshnat »

cmlover ,
I think you forgot to upload the last number
9. rAmAyaNa mangaLa rAgamAlikA suLAdi - Shrikaanth K. Murthy
(SrIrAga, dhanyAsi, vasanta, asAvEri, mOhana, saurAShTra, suraTi set to the suLAdi sapta tALas)

Can you please upload , I am eagarly awaiting

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Post by cmlover »

Thanks
I was waiting for one of you guys to ask for this masterpiece! I will u/l it by tomorrow!

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Ok! Here is the concluding piece
rAmAyaNa mangaLa rAgamAlikA suLAdi - Shrikaanth K. Murthy
(SrIrAga, dhanyAsi, vasanta, asAvEri, mOhana, saurAShTra, suraTi set to the suLAdi sapta tALas)
Which is indeed a masterpice composition of DRS
http://www.rogepost.com/n/3469854734
For the lyric pl visit
http://www.rasikas.org/forums/viewtopic.php?id=255&p=34

In fact we have all been waiting for the paTTAbhiShEkam of the Ramayana sequence. It is fitting that this rendering by DRS is coinciding with the award of the title Rasikapriya by the International group of Rasikas

ma^ngaLam kOsalEndrAya mahanIya guNAbdayE
cakravartti tanUjAya sArvabhaumAya ma^NgaLam


On all of our behalf we pray to Lord Rama to bless DRS and his family along with all the Rasikas and inspire him to render yet and many more signal service to CM!

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Post by rajeshnat »

cmlover
Thanks for your upload , especially you sequencing with a lot of spacing is very appreciated.

DRS,
I did listen intently and also looked at all the posts in the other thread where cmlover has mentioned. It was a scholarly composition. Can you reupload the rendering where I see you and your wife have rendered (the link has expired).

Just one innocous question, perhaps just taking an oppurtunity to ask you,definitely not passing any judgements here. Even though you dropped a vasantA in between dhanyAsi and asAveri, was there any reason to have so very close rAgas like dhanyAsi and asAveri , may be you would have thought thru and felt a reason to have that overlap.
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Post by drshrikaanth »

Thanks rajesh
rajeshnat wrote:Even though you dropped a vasantA in between dhanyAsi and asAveri, was there any reason to have so very close rAgas like dhanyAsi and asAveri , may be you would have thought thru and felt a reason to have that overlap.
dhanyAsi and asAvEri sound similar in some places butare actually not very close. I chose asAvEri as that suited the mood of the particular stanza. Moreover, there are not too many magaLa rAgas to choose from. Hope I have brought out the difference in the 2 rAgas convincingly.

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Post by drshrikaanth »

Can one of you post the suLAdi version I posted on my thread? Thanks.

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Post by rajeshnat »

drshrikaanth wrote:Hope I have brought out the difference in the 2 rAgas convincingly.
I just downloaded and played , without even recollecting all the ragAs.dhanyAsi and asAveri were both crystal clear, infact all were crystal clear even before you introduced the rAga mudra in each of the charanam.

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Post by Suji Ram »

http://www.sendspace.com/file/7s2iri

The sulAdi duet

DRS
Hope we get to hear many more compositions with many more mangaLams...

The accompanists did a very good job in the concert.

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Post by arasi »

DRS,
An enjoyable and intricate composition...

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Post by cmlover »

Rajesh
as much as MaNakkal is an ironclad elephant veteran who never slips , DRS is a steelwinged Adhunika (modernday) Eagle who never misses a svara. I have analyzed his shruti several times and he is always on spot (I consider him next only to KVN in this respect)!

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Post by arasi »

CML,
I like your 'steelwinged'! And iron clad in his adherence to tradition. DRS belongs to the class of a few of our youngsters who make us feel as if we should add another hundred years to their vidwat and maturity (how they accrue it is beyond me). We have to be thankful they are so; otherwise, we oldtimers would have missed out on experiencing their merits, having to wait for them to mature over the years!
Both a boon and a bane for them to be so endowed, and yet not welcomed by some--solely because of a 'what do they know, they are so YOUNG!' attitude...

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Post by cmlover »

Is there any age to vidvat?
Sankaracarya died at the age of 32!
Of course to appreciate vidvat we need to have age as I am finding out now!

arasi
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Post by arasi »

Add one more to the count, mon ami...

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Post by jayaram »

If I didn't believe in reincarnation before, meeting DRS made me change my opinion! This level of talent must surely come from a previous life...vAsanas imprinted in the genes, I suppose.

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Post by drshrikaanth »

Thank you all for your wishes and goodwill.

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Post by kiransurya »

jayaram wrote:If I didn't believe in reincarnation before, meeting DRS made me change my opinion! This level of talent must surely come from a previous life...vAsanas imprinted in the genes, I suppose.
DRS
Keep it up ! :)

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Now that we have concluded the concert of DRS celebrating the award of Rasikapriya title honouring him, I recall prophetically my composing a harikatha in his honour exactly an year ago (may 6th 2006) immediately after the conclusion of his Suladi Ramayana series coinciding with the conferment of the prestigous MRCP tittle by the Royal college of England. Since it is quite relevant here at this point in time as also many of you may not have heard it before I am reuploading it for your enjoyment.
http://www.rogepost.com/n/4635664703

God bless Rasikapriya Dr. Shrikaanth K Murthy MRCP

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Post by arasi »

CML,
What a treat! What a way to celebrate DRS, his achievement and his contribution to CM! A mini upanyAsam, but of maximum quality...:)
When it is rare to come across Johnsons, rarer it is to encounter Boswells.
As for you, keep educating and entertaining us, CML...
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thenpaanan
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Post by thenpaanan »

CML or Anyone Else in this group,

Help! I accidentally deleted from my disk my copy of DRS's stupendous Rasikapriya concert kritis (punnagavarali varnam, tatvam ariya, etc) that CML had posted sequentially.

Are these recordings available elsewhere online? The sendspace and rogepost entries have long expired.

Please help, please, please. I cannot tell you my chagrin right now at the error that deleted the disk. :(

Thanks,
Then Paanan

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Post by ramakriya »

thenpaanan,

If you can wait for a few days, I can upload whatever I have :)

-Ramakriya

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