Whats in your music collection?

Classical Dance forms & related music
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jackocheerful
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Post by jackocheerful »

Hello,
I am conducting research about peoples collection of music and how it reflects a connected, multi-culture society. I was just curious what kind of music you have in your collection and why you are attracted to them? Feel free to post comments about my topic, as I would be interested in any questions or comments.

coolkarni
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Post by coolkarni »

A Psalm of Life
........
........

Lives of great men all remind us
We can make our lives sublime,
And, departing, leave behind us
Footprints on the sands of time;

Footprints, that perhaps another,
Sailing o'er life's solemn main,
A forlorn and shipwrecked brother,
Seeing, shall take heart again.

.........
.........

By Henry Wadsworth Longfellow (1807-1882).

Footprints on the sands of Time.
That is why, I ( forlorn and ship wrecked as I am) collect them..
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vgvindan
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Post by vgvindan »

ship wrecked
How much would have been there in the wrecked ship!

coolkarni
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Post by coolkarni »

Well.... I have just begun the process of collecting.
:P
My immediate concern is that as a society we do not believe in archiving for posterity's sake.
On a 0 to 100 scale we dont even score 5 marks in preserving this tradition for someone who is going to be born two hundred years from now.
That and only that has driven me to do all what I have tried.

Two images stand out in my 28 years in Chennai.

A lady from an affluent family (which has the tradition of a Senior Musician singing for every marriage in their Home, for decades) proudly saying how she artistically converted old LPs into gift material by heating and bending them to presentable shapes(for the gifts that one gives in bulk during marriages)

My close friend Prof Ranganthan Passing away and his widow (not knowing what to do with his library of books and tapes) keeping it ready for the roadside vendor who had made his offer of 5 Rs for each book and Rs 2 for each tape) and giving me 30 minutes notice.
30 minutes
To pool in Rs 20000 and pick up the very same books/tapes which I used to take on loan from Prof Ranganathan, very very carefully. And he was such a rare Mali Collector.

jackocheerful
Visit the palace of a Royal Home near Thirupathi -Venkatagiri-
There within the deep portals , are arranged wonderful tapes of weekly concerts held as early as 1945. Held every week without fail.

One of the -erstwhile- Two Princes who lives in kodambakkam refused to part with even a single tape for me but would speak for hours on how Vasudevachar was the only Musician who could fill a big hall with his booming voice without a mike .And claims that he has a session where he has sung a Nayaki for over 65 minutes.
On asking him for the tapes for archiving , he replied blandly,
Where is Cm now ? It is dead .
Wonder if we could nationalise these treasures with an Ordinance !!
So getting back to your first question, I think you should modify it as
Why do people Hoard Music ?
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kmrasika
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Post by kmrasika »

Coolkarni wrote:roadside vendor who had made his offer of 5 Rs for each book and Rs 2 for each tape
And these days they cost way, way more than that.

Coolkarni: That is indeed a somber scene you paint. Despite the advances in technology, the initiative to archive our tradition has not caught up in fervor. Although they are some individuals and organizations out there making an effort, in general , the whole scene is rather goomy.

Doesn't Sampradaya on Musiri Subrahmanya Iyer Road hold a rare collection of archived music?

jackocheerful
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Post by jackocheerful »

Hello, and thanks for your replys.
I will agree with you that music is a living element that should be preserved through collections and archives. It is of cultural value to societies, cultures, and individuals and this must be made important in order for preservation to take place within communities. People have to understand that this is important for their children and their children's children.
I wouldn't say that my collection of music is out of a need to hoard it. In fact, most of my music colelction has been freely downloaded from the internet. Since music is a living entity, it should be preserved through archives, and passed around freely for all to use and listen to.
Since growing up in the United States, I have been introduced to many kinds of music and cultures. This reflects the music in which I listen to. I have also studied the classical piano, and so my love for western classical music will always remain with me as well.
I am concerned with people's musical and cultural background in relation to how this fact reflects what we are currently listening to.

Thanks again.

nigamaa
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Post by nigamaa »

Namaskara,

One friend has mailed me his 108 collections,

Could anybody with enough spare time i. g. retired guru kindly comment on similarities of known late indian dance styles with some or all of these west-asian dance styles?

pls post name of style, comments, etc. acc. to numeral position shown
I have tried to exclude dead links, but may have missed some, sorry

thx alot

DANCERS FROM TURKEY
1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XpHy7Lx ... re=related
2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qh_z5Dj9 ... re=related
3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w82qdfGZ ... re=related
4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1oHTzHq ... re=related
5 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlJ2XsoZ ... re=related
6 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NffIFTr ... re=related
7 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gy4e05N5 ... re=related
8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NipmpZf ... re=related
9 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmG9odhI ... re=related
10 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlrPRmHF ... re=related
11 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8eeymhZV ... re=related
12 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yQXrX4x ... re=related
DANCERS FROM IRAN
13 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LRPNc1A ... ed&search=
14 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZ5gFMFgIy8
15 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWgiXzFBU08
16 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfJdJbSIZbg&NR=1
LEBANESE DANCER
17 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NG_vZML4-Y
18 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMk4InqL-Ag
19 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFGTiWrK ... ed&search=
20 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CA7i30RR ... ed&search=
21 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMUA1y6f ... ed&search=
22 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IE_ig1r4 ... ed&search=
23 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTQK_-sK ... ed&search=
24 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9S22MI-l ... ed&search=
25 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBncb92r ... ed&search=
26 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-BQXhFA ... ed&search=
27 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TMGQMuC ... ed&search=
28 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_jxxpv9hew
29 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hI5oZvkM ... ed&search=
30 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hI5oZvkM ... ed&search=
31 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hI5oZvkM ... ed&search=
32 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hI5oZvkM ... ed&search=
33 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hI5oZvkM ... ed&search=
34 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFrCaSDpFMc
35 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoREkZvkyI8
36 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1W2w4VdN3P4
37 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhnXmiDnJaQ
38 http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=h6YBxuapYTI
39 http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=B4pl07GIYJQ
40 http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=gz3_rpw1mOc
41 http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=UPyge3tKE3k
42 http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=3kNmdPLn-4Y
43 http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=wRbNGkT2kec
44 http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=gG4_0WegXDU
45 http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=jWBblRvq-VY
46 http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=SkHjd48jkK8
47 http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=oV98XQjUtZI
LEBANESE DANCER: NADINE
48 http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=oV98XQjUtZI
49 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXEX1e_zzD8
50 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEoWKpDEst0
51 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyViD-I8DSc
LEBANESE DANCER YOSRA HANEM
52 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjUmQu8O ... re=related
53 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYM8-Ah_ ... re=related
54 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyesYrQM ... re=related
55 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nqIcYTx ... re=related
LEBANESE DANCER
BASSIMA
56 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nqIcYTx ... re=related
57 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shsmcVfq ... re=related
58 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDu9TXZ9 ... re=related
59
LEBANESE DANCER
AMIN SULTAN
60 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ynb7q-rb ... re=related
61 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYgz4CT7 ... re=related
LEBANESE DANCER
JOE ASHKAR
62 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_dXRpmWQ88
63 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zigytNYI ... re=related
64
LEBANESE DANCER
WAEL JASSAR
65 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRQN39XU ... re=related
66 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkR2qVzs ... re=related
67 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZuYtarVMlE
68 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gckwkMV5 ... re=related
LEBANESE DANCER
SABINE
69 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gckwkMV5 ... re=related
70 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kek2_MdC ... re=related
EGYPTIAN DANCER NAJWA FOUAD
71 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kek2_MdC ... re=related
72 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKgmL8mG ... ed&search=
73 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DwJFlFB ... ed&search=
74 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCNpcbv0Uj8
EGYPTIAN DANCER FIFI ABDO
75 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCNpcbv0Uj8
76 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1Q77nLj ... ed&search=
77 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvFJ7c_1 ... ed&search=
78 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKPglqpx ... ed&search=
DANCING IN EGYPTIAN MOVIES
79 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9X8n4D_Frk
80
81
82
83
EGYPTIAN DANCER. DINA
84 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXmZx_xTl0E
85 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VaodxLDB0dI&NR=1
86 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvaSiL0gDOQ
87 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIRYy23kHq0
88 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygh3guhvfAo
89 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7L1abP1a0I
90 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7L1abP1a0I
91 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIJ8spegnfI
92 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57QdygbWI5o
93 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57QdygbWI5o
EGYPTIAN DANCER NOUR
94 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gL0yOCt5 ... re=related
95 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S083UDJq ... re=related
96 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFAtcHIA ... re=related
97 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qCuwcX1 ... re=related
98 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANlOaC1H ... re=related
yet unnamed YOUTUBE VIDEOS:
99 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpeFVf4u ... re=related
100 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__SpoaTJ ... re=related
101 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RlR1Abrt ... re=related
102 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoREkZvk ... re=related
103 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1W2w4VdN ... re=related
104 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKylEXn0 ... re=related
105 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_jxxpv9 ... re=related
106 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyesYrQM ... re=related
107 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBncb92rz70
108

nigamaa
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Joined: 09 Jan 2008, 22:48

Post by nigamaa »

update:
to compensate for former losses of 108
I was sent some more

INDIA
HAIFA WEHBE & AISHWARYA RAI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkk_9typ ... re=related
LAMPARA MAGICA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tE7XRoQAWSQ

SYRIA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E319sRGOzXs
SULAF FAWAKHERJI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1Qlq0Qz ... re=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBADl763 ... re=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAAiYiZO ... re=related
NOURA RAHAL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpYzEMKp ... re=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3ZlfMip ... re=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LayBJ9fQ ... re=related

TUNESIA
LATIFA ARFAOUI
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=k20NNMRlN ... re=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45u02hTx ... re=related
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=Kgc0Nae7s ... re=related
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=Ji5ROIH8N ... re=related
BAHAA EL KAFI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H043SJko ... re=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qh6uVlm ... re=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkH-fvwV ... re=related

EGYPT
HAIFA WEHBE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGxm_xAN ... re=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQSv4FKa ... re=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLnJVojc ... re=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1WwxV7V ... re=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-Sjq2Im ... re=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IN5O4gkO ... re=related

LEBANON
PASCAL MACHALANI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2p_7-Zto ... re=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZPeVBrL ... re=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIHQpw2Z ... re=related
RAYAN:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gj-9Rzzj ... re=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWdr6oTd ... re=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTYY9HYp ... re=related
NOUR
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGh4ro85 ... re=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Y4QDpQ2 ... re=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHwQpz57 ... re=related
NELLY MAKDESSY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4m0GAfH ... re=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ye4tdTUy ... re=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdh2UVgi ... re=related

coolkarni
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Post by coolkarni »

I Guess I can now afford to drop my Long held Ambition to visit Istanbul atleast once in my Life !!
Srkris and Mods must have really got interested in Belly dancing to allow these links stay for so long !!!
Wonder whats next !!
Carnival videos from the streets of Rio !!!:D
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arasi
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Post by arasi »

Too hot for Cool!
Anyway, didn't bother to see them. Just the quantity of it all put me off, let alone the quality that you speak of!
There is a lot out there to delete!

nigamaa
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Joined: 09 Jan 2008, 22:48

Post by nigamaa »

not bad, cc

http://www.ftv.com/fashion/page.php?P=24
had the live broadcast Rio Carnival 2008 on their SAT channel
I cannot find it on their IPTV, what a shame
in Rio they work hard all year long in their samba schools
just for that Carnival, which they took from Venice, Italy.

nigamaa
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Post by nigamaa »

Anyway, didn't bother to see them. Just the quantity of it all put me off, let alone the quality that you speak of!

One need not to watch these utube vids or argue with the posters, the stress here is the collection of western asian dance style, hopefully followed by eastern asian dance styles from another poster.

I came to know that this 108 collection was taken in part from this thread, which is being expanded constantly.

http://www.topix.com/forum/world/lebano ... D8NA3POL2C

I have no clue if Lebanon is the center of bellydance as such
or just by chance cuz of this forum?

nigamaa
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Post by nigamaa »

Hi,

Some time ago there has come out a tool to make your own collections easier as ever before, unlike Youtube which takes much more effort. It is called “Miroâ€

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