Top 5 artists for Season 2007

Anandan.keshav · Post by **Anandan.keshav** » 06 Dec 2007, 15:02

I don't think OS.Arun, Suryaprakash and Ashok Ramani are all UP COMING artists They are performing for mare than 10 years in the field, and still up-coming?!

Ponbhairavi · Post by **Ponbhairavi** » 06 Dec 2007, 16:33

Any Survey is a cleverly engineered form of publicity and manipulation of the opinions of the recalcitrants clothed in a garb of statistical respectability. and it has the immunity of anonimity I can conduct a survey of several hundreds of people to show any preposterous nonsense say for example that Rasa Gulla is a sweet capable of annihilating humanity by nuclear pollution or Ananda vikatan is the only magazine which can save the carnatic music from its imminent death. magazines and newspapers like such surveys because they raise up controversies and thus gives them lot of publicity. Proof : even in our forum so many of us have wasted so much of our time on this trash.

arasi · Post by **arasi** » 06 Dec 2007, 18:02

Amen.

vasanthakokilam · Post by **vasanthakokilam** » 06 Dec 2007, 22:30

There are lies, damn lies and then statistics!! ( quoting some one else ).

Yes, there is a Garbage In Garbage Out quality to polls and the resulting statistical conclusions. Having said that, I am a bit partial to sampling than actual counts since time and again it has been shown that sampling is more accurate than actual counts. Since the actual counts are so laborious, its error rate is many times more than the 5% estimation error with sampling. ( My personal pet-peeve is the census where they actually go count the people!! And majority of the people think that it is more accurate than population estimates by sampling. Au contraire!! It is not even close, sampling is much much cheaper and more accurate ).

In this case, I agree with you all, the target of our derision should be the poll designers and the magazine's audacity to publish the results as if their methods are scientific and accurate.

Svaapana · Post by **Svaapana** » 07 Dec 2007, 07:37

The postings have been by far skewed. Instead of discussing the music of the musicians mentioned in a professional way, many have been casting aspersions on the survey itself. Statistics is an area that should be apportioned a place elsewhere. Let us discuss the music itself.

arasi · Post by **arasi** » 07 Dec 2007, 10:23

VK,
After saying amen, here I go again.
It was just a seasonal offering on the part of the 'fun' magazine, and no more. Had they known that it would generate the kind of response it has on the forum, they would have been more careful about the so called survey, I guess! Other rags are filled with junk too. I would dismiss this as (yes, i am repeating myself) a space filler, whatever its worth. The question is, are there people out there who would be swayed by this survey?
It seems appropriate to speak of another subject here. That of elitism--it was suggested somewhere that it is there on the forum. Whatever you call it, is it reflected in our responses to this survey?
The problem is, many of us want CM to reach out and make an impact on as many people as possible, Yet, we are not happy about CM being diluted or trivialized. Is it elitism or selectivity? As a few of us pointed out, there is nothing wrong in having CM concerts which are of a lighter variety so long as the more serious kind is not forgotten. It is like saying, taminglish can be tolerated as long as tamizh does not become extinct! Times are changing, and we have our doubts and concern about Suddha sangItam.
At least, the survey brought to the attention of the uninitiated the names of performers in CM! Just as you can't stop the rasikAs from saying to the newbies that so and so is the best, has to be heard, and so and so is worthless and so on, dependent on their own taste in music, you can't stop the magazines and newspapers from dishing out such meaningless features...

cmlover · Post by **cmlover** » 07 Dec 2007, 10:40

Very nice analysis Arasi. You should be coopted to the ranks of community psychiatrist.s You not only read the pulse of the journalists (being one yourself) you also read the psyches of our membership. Our individual personalities are revealed too in these responses! It is our collective personality that sets the norms of this BB. And that will be the mythical statistical average which will belong to no single individual. As long as our love of CM does not translate into love of individuals and consequently hero (heroine too

worship there is no danger of our losing objectivity in our collective assessments.

rajaglan · Post by **rajaglan** » 26 Dec 2007, 16:42

May be I am late to teh discussion here.

Best thing to do now is to have a survey ourselves here and get attention of Ananda Vikatan so that they publish it towards the end of season. Do we have the infrastructure to 'vote in web' here.