Charulatha Mani - Music Season Schedule

clmweb · Post by **clmweb** » 04 Dec 2007, 07:53

Greetings to Rasikas,

Smt. Charulatha Mani's concert schedule for the 2007 Music Season is available at:
http://www.charulathamani.com/concerts/clm2007.pdf

Feel free to contact the artiste at:
clm@charulathamani.com

regards,
webmaster@charulathamani.com
http://www.charulathamani.com

pavizha malli · Post by **pavizha malli** » 11 Dec 2007, 15:50

good method of using cinema gimmick to Carnatic Music. There are only a few very old cinemusic which has a purely Carnatic background. Whereas 99 percent of the cinesongs only have shades and cannot be really called carnatic music. Rubbishing Carnatic Music for cheap popularity is atrocious. One can see how gullible the rasikas are and how they can be cheated easily by passing off some cheap music like autokaran as shades of Carnatic Music. I pity the Muse. To get a Carnatic platform one can go to such levels and the same rasikas come in piles and Sabha secretaries give more Carnatic chances because for them full rows are more important than the kind of music!!!!

mri_fan · Post by **mri_fan** » 11 Dec 2007, 15:59

a little angry are we pavizha?

pavizha malli · Post by **pavizha malli** » 11 Dec 2007, 16:06

Not angry but feeling a sense of pity. there were times when rickshaw pullers could discern a good Thodi rendition from the bad. How times have changed! General deterioration of standards in all walks of life is common. It is catching up with rasikas of music!!! No offence meant. When will we the rasikas raise the bar so that Carnatic music can survive such onslaughts from within is my concern.

cienu · Post by **cienu** » 11 Dec 2007, 16:10

Pavizha ,

I have no objections to your starting a new thread , possibly named " Cinema Gimmick and Carnatic Music"

Pray , why are we discussing this under Charulata Mani's Music schedule ??

pavizha malli · Post by **pavizha malli** » 11 Dec 2007, 16:15

dear cienu
Pardon me but it started because today's sticker "Calendar" has the lead to Charulata Mani's schedule only. ok no more in this particular Music schedule!!!! Please excuse.

vasanthakokilam · Post by **vasanthakokilam** » 11 Dec 2007, 22:58

I was also confused about this. After looking into it a bit, there are three things going on with Charulatha Mani.

1) The short TV show singing Carnatic songs and equivalent Film songs

2) The same as above in concert format

3) Traditional Carnatic Music concerts.

I guess those who are not interested in item 2) format, have to ask 'which format is this Carulatha Mani concert today?' before deciding to attend.

Having said all this, pavizha malli, this kind of thing has been done before. G.S. Mani has done this quite a few times.

arasi · Post by **arasi** » 11 Dec 2007, 23:26

Also our Suryaprakash??

clmweb · Post by **clmweb** » 12 Dec 2007, 15:54

Regarding the post by 'pavizha malli',
As one of the "clmweb" team, I would like to address the issues raised. Given my proximity to the artiste (being married to her), and having attended all the Isai Payanam concerts, I would like to make some observations:

1. None of the webmasters of charulathamani.com (posting only as clmweb) are responsible for any anomaly in the Events Calendar. Having said that, on visiting the link it seemed just fine albeit sparsely populated. If 'pavizha malli' finds it irritating that Charulatha's concerts are listed there, please ask the forum administrators to remove the entries. We have no objection.

2. The Isai Payanam concerts are NOT publicised as Carnatic kutcheris. Giri Trading goes to the expense of issuing adverts in the Hindu for three days, clearly indicating that Charulatha deals with the treatment of ragas in Carnatic as well as film music. There is no misrepresentation and the rasikas who attend do not seem to be under any misapprehension. A large chunk of the audience are regular attendees, and most stay till the very end, so there is no question of tricking anybody into the concert hall!

3. Charulatha (or any of her peers) is not responsible for the deterioration of musical taste among rickshaw pullers or their modern counterparts, the autorickshaw drivers.

4. Charulatha separately outlines the Carnatic and non-classical/film treatment of the raga and points out the variations. There is no attempt at fusion/confusion/dilution. Carnatic pieces are sung as they should be, and non-classical pieces are also sung as the composer intended them to be. She also touches upon the variations within Carnatic treatment as well. For intance, the unorthodox nishada usage in some versions of 'Kamalaptakula' in Brindavana Saranga was pointed out, such is the concern for detail.

5. The accusation of "rubbishing" Carnatic Music is very unfair and unfounded. Charulatha takes pains to highlight in various Carnatic compositions the genius of our composers, often explaining even the meaning for the benefit of those not conversant with Telugu or Sanskrit. Nowhere in the concerts are the merits of Carnatic compositions either ignored or insufficently extolled.

6. The "Autokkaran" song was a light-hearted addition to the list of cine songs based on or inspired by sindhu bhairavi. The artiste at no point of time suggested that it is a carnatic composition fit to be sung in a kutcheri! I strongly doubt that any rasika went home with that impression. Please give the audience (whether lay or trained) some credit...

7. It is highly dismissive, patronising, and indeed insulting to label concert-goers as "gullible" and suckers who are "cheated easily". Rasikas brave choatic traffic, and sometimes pouring rain to attend concerts, and many do not mind sitting on the floor or standing for two hours! Many are busy scribbling notes, in one concert, even requesting for lights to be switched on! The volume of e-mail, snail-mail, recordings, information, literature (including copious manuscripts in some cases) from rasikas (including members of this forum) indicates a thirst for understanding our glorious heritage and for sharing knowledge, that is most touching.

8. Eminent experts such as Dr.V.V.Srivatsa and Prof. T.R. Subramaniam have attended the concerts and also participated. Dr. Srivatsa has sat through three Isai Payanams, and expressed his wholehearted approval and enjoyment. He has even gone on record with his views (see Isai Paynam DVDs Volumes 1 and 8). He even took the trouble of teaching the rarely sung Dikshithar kriti "Swaminathena" in Brindavani to the artiste expressly for Isai Payanam! Mrs. Y.G. Parthasarathi after thoroughly enjoying one of the concerts, requested Charulatha to include an IsaiPayanam in the Bharath Kalachar series. I hardly think any of these highly respected persons are collaborating in the rubbishing or dilution of Carnatic music.

9. It is heartening to see mixed crowds rather than the usual predominance of senior citizens (not that their patronage is not valued!). There is an oft-repeated lament in various fora about the need for bringing in younger audiences. If someone is doing this, outside of (and without tampering with) the traditional kutcheri format, this is not something to be bitter about. If an audience can enjoy a Shanmukhapriya alapana in pin-drop silence without fidgeting or the usual post-8PM exodus, surely they deserve some credit?

10. No, Isai Payanam may not be everyone's cup of tea, but neither is it intended to be. Will such concerts attract new listeners to Carnatic concerts? Time will tell. Meanwhile those that enjoy their monthly Isai Payanams are entitled to them

Rasikas of this vibrant forum are most welcome to address any feedback directly to the artiste. Please copy your post to clm@charulathamani.com so that it comes to Charulatha's attention.

warm regards and wishing everyone an enjoyable music season,
Karthik Balasubramaniam

pavizha malli · Post by **pavizha malli** » 12 Dec 2007, 17:21

dear clmweb
Its nice to read your response. As long as the fine Lakshman rekha is not crossed your arguments seem to hold water. Who can be swayed away from tinsel world charm? Hard stuff is not being digested like in the past. Soften the stuff to the rasika's taste or add glamour to attract more audience to Carnatic music!! If "Carnatic Music" can be packaged in glossy containers to attract 'younger generation' without losing its sheen and purity then it is a tribute else my argument would hold good. All the best in the venture to uphold values of Carnatic Music by introducing it to lay rasikas through a surrogate channel and attract larger patronage to Carnatic Music!!

gobilalitha · Post by **gobilalitha** » 12 Dec 2007, 17:51

I do not understand what amount of popualarity has charulathaM has attained , ..due to the 15 minutes weekly show in JAYA TV., has it enhanced her chances in the sabha prodrammes?On the contrary , i have seen people enjoying the programme immensely ... when they are able to identify a raaga later on, you must see the joy in their faces, just like that of a schoolboy getting upon the dias to get his prize . I have been stressing my view that just like the immensely popular sangeeth saritha of vividh bharati ,going on for nearly 30 years(but unfortunately the morning timing 7.30 is not convenient to anybody), this sort of programme should be given more time ,15 minutes being not enough. charulathaM , if time permits apart from the film song and the raaga explanations she can add a pure karnatic kriti in the raaga taken, sung or played by a karnatic music artist balasubramanian gobilalitha

coolkarni · Post by **coolkarni** » 12 Dec 2007, 18:22

Pavizha malli
Your arguments will get weaker by the day , because of a few inconsistences in the argument.
clmwebs response should have satisfied you .But I cannot restrain myself from throwing my Hat,in the ring, too.

Years ago , when I started uploading GS Mani's tracks from similar Thematic Concerts here, they were extremely popular.As someone who operates a Premium account in order to judge current tastes -by checking out on the number of downloads for every track that I Upload-I must clarify that the largest number of downloads till date-in this August Forum-were for GS Mani's Tracks.
But here is something more interesting.
I checked up with him again if it was right on my part to upload (from the seven concerts that I had) when one poorly made version was already in the market.
And he replied â€œ light as many lamps as you can â€œ Jyoth se Jyoth Jagao.
Instead of crying that Classical Music is dying ,let us all do our bit to rejuvenate this heritage.
The seeds for our Concerts series were sown that day , and that is how he ended performing the inaugural Concert.
And I can reveal to you a secret here.He requested us to pay only the accompanists and the taxi fare.
The first show was a great success , with rasikas staying at the venue for a good one hour after the concert.
And at 11.30 pm , we got a call from GS Mani, lambasting us for stuffing more cash into that cover(than what he had asked)
We had a hard time making him accept that cover.
So obvioulsy , the inspiration for these attempts lies somewhere else and unless one is sure about those impulses, it is difficult to digest your viewpoint.

But , again that is not the main point of this note.Over several meetings with him, I have seen the mild pain in his eyes (He is too strong to call it a pain) with the way the Chennai Establishment has treated Carnatic Vidwans who have dabbled in the Cine Field.

An Establishment that raves and rants when Musicians like MS and GNB sing Cine songs â€“ songs which are basically Carnatic in nature, with no element of creativity that is the hall mark of a Cine Music Director.
But looks down upon a Janardhan, an Emani , a Balchander ,or even a TVG.
An establishment that is too scared to take on a BMK , in the knowledge that he can challenge the mightiest among them.(and has tried and hurt itself).

You probably speak for such an establishment and forget that , somewhere near, as close as Mumbai and Kolkatta, Musicians like Chaurasia , Balsara,Shivkumar Sharma , Samthaprasad played for Films , while still rubbing shoulders with, and maintaining high opinions about the likes of Naushad, Roshan,Madan Mohan, SD Burman and others.

Pray , who has been given the task of preserving this so called classical heritage ?
The Academy which hosts meaningless Jugalbandis - Fusion Concerts in collaboration with the Press Mandarins who also control the Academy ?

I have seen umpteen programs where so called elite have been nodding their heads to Crap ,but I am not complaining .Try to get a recording of a duet of Todayâ€™s leading Female singer and Todays leading CM-Bhajan singer at Adyar Ananthapadmanabhaswamy temple, three years ago and you will get my point.
All of them are culpable , if you decide not to shift the goal posts.

As far the question â€“whether goal posts should be shifted â€“ is concerned,
Only Time can tell.

It is high time that Chennai allows these winds to blow across Mylapore and clear the stench.

Twentyfive years ago , on a hot Sunday afternoon , I watched a young lady violinist struggle to keep pace with the wizardry of U Srinivas, at the Academy.A chap in the upstairs started clapping slowly, making her more nervous .
And in a flash, my Friend-Philosopher-Guide( in CM matters) moved out of his seat , accosted him right upto the balcony , paid him the money with which he had purchased his ticket and told him to leave if he did not like the performance.
And I have watched Meera Sivaramakrishnan grow into a fine and sensitive violinist.And pray when was the last time weI saw her performing ?

And so let us keep it that way and hope that Charulatha does bring in those new Kids into the scheme of things.(Man , you should see those paatis and mamis rushing in for those thukkadas of .... One could get killed in that stampede)

In my books , any day , a vidwan like the Cine-Tainted ones listed above, are more educative, than the straight jacketed Vidwan who keeps playing Todi, sindhu bhairavi , bilahari , shanmukhapriya -ad nauseum- and who can only reply (to a caller in a TV program) â€“ Inda Ragam ella anda kalathille romba pratice le ille.
Na Ariyakudi Madari Periya vidwangalige nareya vaschirke andâ€¦â€¦Inda Jotiswaroopini ,â€¦. Madaree ragangal â€¦. Enikke theriyale.Little Surprise that CM has moved from the era of the Great Innovator/Performer , to the Era of the Great Exponent/Teacher and now on to an era of Experimenter (wo dabbles more with style rather than with substance), who is acutely aware of the weight of the heritage and is doing his / her best to address the needs of a new discerning mind that is bombarded with so many conflicting images.

coolkarni · Post by **coolkarni** » 12 Dec 2007, 21:15

And By the way ,
The Rickshaw Karan's story ( appreciating CM at its purest)

The BGAK story , where he was feted MUCH TO THE CHAGRIN OF PURISTS,

The calls for Eppo varuvaro from the men waiting to pedal heavy purists back to their Dens...

These stories have got very stale around these parts.There is no point in trying to use these as crutches any more.

sramaswamy · Post by **sramaswamy** » 12 Dec 2007, 23:03

Cmlweb

Very good presentation. Charulatha is lucky to have "Sadasivam" for her.

cmlover · Post by **cmlover** » 13 Dec 2007, 01:57

In a far off land in a distant planet there was a colony of very simple beings. By our earth standards they were intellectual pygmies and hence led a very primitive life. And knowing no maths their transactions had to be conducted through a very select group of experts who used a complex language and process bestowed on them by a 'trinity' which the natives could neither employ, master or even understand. In particular the 'experts' used multiplications and divisions with a finesse to solve transactional problems. They were also very secretive about their techniques and would teach them only to their family or a very select group of hand-picked people to preserve the mystique. In particular they had a 'bible' called 'multiplications tables' which was written in a language which the commons would not understand. Eventually there appeared some slightly intelligent beings who discovered a process called 'addition and subtraction' with which many of the common problems could be solved albeit laboriously. Also the common folks found it easier to master and became capable of handling many common problems themselves though on rare occasions they had to resort to the 'trinity-trained' elite for complex issues. Eventually an intellectual giant was born who discovered that addition was nothing but a series of additions and division equally was nothing but a series of subtractions. Not only did he announce his discovery he went on to build a device which he called 'a computer' which could perform those operations in a trice much to the chagrin of the small group of 'experts' whose exclusive business was already dwindling. Also the common folks who woke up to discovering the simple and elegant explanation got disabused of the mystique of the bugbear of 'multiplication and division'. Strangely the elites hated the discoverer and called him a 'curse' and an incarnation of the devil. But to the common folks the discoverer was a saint and even avatara of God Himself.

gobilalitha · Post by **gobilalitha** » 13 Dec 2007, 06:49

thanks to clmweb for starting this thread, we are able to enjoy the penmanship of two of our literary giants coolkarni and cmlover. but un fortunately for a dullhead like me it is all greek and latin,. well contiue your goodwork clm gobilalitha

mahavishnu · Post by **mahavishnu** » 13 Dec 2007, 07:33

cmlover, I think this might be your best post yet.
Thanks for the wisdom. The story captures all the social dynamics in this situation.

I am sorry that Smt Charulatha was subjected to such harsh words by such self-appointed mavens of the art.

Sam Swaminathan · Post by **Sam Swaminathan** » 13 Dec 2007, 07:42

clmweb wrote:Regarding the post by 'pavizha malli',

10. No, Isai Payanam may not be everyone's cup of tea, but neither is it intended to be.

An involuntary chuckle came out of me when I read the above....so is carnatic music every one's cup of tea? Apparently not. And that is where people like Charulatha and their contribution becomes very important. The attempts of Sri G S Mani and now Charulatha should be appreciated for what they have achieved or will acheive in the future. As pointed out by Gobilalitha, in my years in New Delhi, the AIR programme "Sangeeth Sarita" drove me to hindustani music and to-day I enjoy hindustani as much as I love carnatic music. Add to this, a recent benevalence in the form of Chitra Saptak has further enhanced by journey into hindustani ragaas ( thanks to a large hearted cool donor !). It is time we recognised the importance of the work being done by Charulatha and her like and applaud their efforts. Good work Charulatha and keep it up. Cheers

pavizha malli · Post by **pavizha malli** » 13 Dec 2007, 15:49

Itâ€™s heartening to perceive that the difficulties involved in upholding a system of music in its pristine form have been adequately addressed in the current debate. The bone of contention is only the means toward this end. The responsibility of upholding traditions lies on all players concerned be it artists, rasikas, critics, media, sponsors etc. How best it is to be done is anybodyâ€™s imagination. Colourful packaging; using alternate channels; doing away with â€˜multiplication and divisionâ€™ for people who donâ€™t understand mathematics; giving emphasis only on the sweetness of the voice; raising up to the challenges put up by discerning rasikas; heeding the advice given by music knowing critics are some of the means. However, whatever means are employed the goal posts should not be shifted if we cannot score, be it a rasika, artist or critic in that order. The goal post is â€œupholding Carnatic Music in its pristine gloryâ€

cmlover · Post by **cmlover** » 13 Dec 2007, 21:20

It may not be surprising to know that there are still thousands of members of the 'flat-earth society' perhaps their numbers much less than those who question the Theory of Evolution. Most of us do know the struggle Galileo had to go through including his 'recant' in his fight to establish heliocentrism. So when did we ever have fixed goal-posts rooted on bed-rocks! If the Trinity laid that Foundation then by their own admissions they stood on the shoulders of giants who lived before them who themselves were moving targets. Even ARI who laid the foundations of our proud concert system stood on shifting sands when he relaxed his rules of not singing Tamil songs and did atone by setting 30 scintillating carnatic ragas for the ever-popular Thiruppavai which was his crowning glory! Did SSI shake the foundations by having percussion accompany him during taanam? Did MS who steadfastly refused to stop singing Bharathy as well as Bhajans in concerts stick to the goal-posts till the mighty MA came crawling on all-fours begging her to accept SK wherein she majestically sang GKB's 'enneramum' in devagaandhari as a majestic centre-piece finishing off with a glorious bhajan composed by Parmaacharya himself! Finally did GNB corrupt or corrode the goal-posts through his escapades into the cine-world, some songs of which he even chose to sing in concerts. And we are still on the heatlands of CM world on planet earth

I can only recall the age-old Tamil proverb 'when the cat closed its eyes it thought the whole world had gone dark'.

srkris · Post by **srkris** » 13 Dec 2007, 21:25

cmlover wrote:Did SSI shake the foundations by having percussion accompany him during taanam?

In Carnatic music as it is/was practised in Kerala, mridangam accompanying during tanam has more or less been a default. It was not introduced by Semmangudi.

By the way my humble view on the issue of trying to mix/fuse/relate CM with film music or any other kind of music, is that it will not serve any purpose. It is dangerous and will give only the impression that CM does not have a backbone of its own and is only pretending to measure up to the other music form with which it is fused or mixed etc.

Its like cancer to CM. If anyone is listening, I want to say this - let us leave aside all these "compare and contrast" business and focus on the CM core. CM should be CM and HM should be HM, and thats the best for any art form - that it be what it has to be. One need not mix anything or find one in another. Sorry if I offended anyone.

cmlover · Post by **cmlover** » 13 Dec 2007, 21:39

As I understand it is also common during Nadasvaram recitals which is age-old practice. But then when did the die-hard 'purists' accept Kerala as the 'gold standard' of CM?

srkris · Post by **srkris** » 13 Dec 2007, 21:40

Well it need not be a gold-standard, but all I wanted to say is it was not Semmangudi's innovation. Maybe he was influenced by it during his years in kerala.

rshankar · Post by **rshankar** » 13 Dec 2007, 22:47

This mridangam during tAnam has been discussed on rasikapriya. Sandhya Vinjamuri has used some very cogent and rational arguements. Here is what I took away from that discussion:

1. This was the practice in Kerala, esp, the navarAtri manTapam concerts - when people sing the RTKriti, the tAnam is accompanied by the mridangam vidvAn
2. SSI did it on one occassion in the MMA out of deference to the mahArANI of tiruvanatapuram who was the chief guest
3. However, when Sandhya checked with her dad's articles and notes she did not find any mention of this being an older/ancient practice. Her own interprettation was that while tAnam may have a time-cycle quality to it, it is not bound by rules of sticking to a tALam, and hence having the mridangam play along will only constrain the free flow of the tAnam.

If anyone remembers it differently, please post....

cmlover · Post by **cmlover** » 13 Dec 2007, 23:08

Sure srkris
If you do attend the rasikas.org meet on the 16th/25th they will make sure that you get served plain rice

uncooked

coolkarni · Post by **coolkarni** » 14 Dec 2007, 08:29

Its like cancer to CM. If anyone is listening,

AT SUNRISE

They pushed him straight against the Wall
The Firing squad dropped in a Row ;
And why he stood on tiptoes
Those men shall never know

He wore a smile across his face
And he stood primly there ,
The guns straight aiming at his heart ,
The Sun upon his hair.

For he remembered , in a flash ,
Those days beyond recall,
When his proud mother took his height
Against the Bedroom Wall.

ROSA ZAGNONI MARINONI

Guns aiming at her heart .
Sun upon her Hair.
Why she stood on tiptoes,
Some will never know..

cmlover · Post by **cmlover** » 14 Dec 2007, 09:15

ha ha!

My people? Who are they?
I went into the concert where the congregation
Worshiped the singer. Were they my people?
I felt no kinship to them as they knelt there.
My people! Where are they?
I went into the land where I was born,
Where men sang my CM
I was a stranger there.
Oh My people,oh my soul cried. Where is my music?

( ROSA ZAGNONI MARINONI (with some liberties)

srkris · Post by **srkris** » 14 Dec 2007, 13:23

Sorry again if that hurt anyone. I didnt mean to speak in a holier-than-thou manner. I am only saying everything has its beauty only when it remains itself. When it becomes like everything else around it, it loses its individuality.

Of late anyone and everyone is trying to look "progressive" by mixing everything they can find. For example, singing CM with orchestration.

One can borrow concepts if they would fit, but one should not borrow the music itself. Bringing together the perfect face of one human with perfect arms of another human, with the perfect legs of another human and other perfect features of yet another human will not produce the most perfect human being in the world. Its a wierd fancy that has overtaken many of our CM performers of this generation. Crazy ideas.

Just MHO.

cmlover · Post by **cmlover** » 14 Dec 2007, 20:44

srkris
You are not offending any sentiments by your frank expression of views. In fact I am afraid that I may be offending the sentiments of the 'purists' by my oblique comments. I didn't mean to but if I did I am not apologizing.

It is not CM is getting corrupted by FM but it is FM that gets embellished through CM. No! I am not repeating the story of autorikshaw man. But this was one of my own experiences. Eons ago when MKT was at his peak starring in Haridas his song 'manmatha leelayai..' was on every lips. On a certain temple festival I guess it was CVB started singing straight 'kripaya pAlaya' without an aalaapana. An ingenuous member of the audience sitting near me remarked that CVB was copying MKT's song. Then with a chuckle his neighbour corrected him stating that the song was written and tuned more than a century ago by the great king SvAti ThiruNaaL. Spontaneously he blurted out that he never realized that CM could be so beautiful. If that was the gateway to CM for a common man then by all means it is worth corrupting CM. Incidentally CM according to Trinity was intended only for singing in front of the Deity or as bhajans and they perhaps would turn in their 'ashes' to hear that their music was played as concerts for a recompense. That was the greatest 'corruption' of CM compared to what is happening to-day!

vasanthakokilam · Post by **vasanthakokilam** » 14 Dec 2007, 22:35

Incidentally CM according to Trinity was intended only for singing in front of the Deity or as bhajans

Interesting you say this CML. I was also wondering about this, but in a different context. We hear that concert format before the Ariyakudi format is, the perfomer may sing one song and then spend the rest of the time with an elaborate pallavi and then finish it off with, may be, another song. I was wondering if the krithis and songs of the Pre-Trinity, Trinity and Post-Trinity were sung in concerts of that time at all. If not in concerts where were they sung, how were they popularized and came in 'vogue' ? May be Thyagaraja's songs had a different history in this respect than MD's and SS's. (?)

gobilalitha · Post by **gobilalitha** » 15 Dec 2007, 06:03

regarding cmlover's post about mkt's manmadhaleelayai and the commoner's pleasure after hearing kripaya palaya, it is What I have been telling about charulata's efforts in jayatv gobilalitha

srkris · Post by **srkris** » 15 Dec 2007, 18:34

cmlover wrote:Incidentally CM according to Trinity was intended only for singing in front of the Deity or as bhajans and they perhaps would turn in their 'ashes' to hear that their music was played as concerts for a recompense. That was the greatest 'corruption' of CM compared to what is happening to-day!

But is one justified by the other?

cmlover · Post by **cmlover** » 15 Dec 2007, 20:11

Is anyone ready to clean the Aegean Stables and restore CM to its pristine glory?
The Gods would welcome and may even assist such a 'superconscious' effort

vasanthakokilam · Post by **vasanthakokilam** » 15 Dec 2007, 23:52

srkris, what kind of mixing are you talking about: Charulatha Mani or Fusion or 45 minute thukkadas in CM concerts or something else?

srkris · Post by **srkris** » 17 Dec 2007, 18:46

I was talking in general, not about CM's CM.