Desh (Old Thread)

srkris · Post by **srkris** » 21 Jan 2006, 07:29

Desh is another one of those light ragas which has a charm of its own. I would like to present here a very fine song (one of the best songs I have heard in Desh) "Nanda Nandana" set to music & sung by Chembai. The choice of raga which he has made for this song couldn't have been better. Readers are welcome to post their observations.

http://rapidshare.de/files/3452794/Nanda.mp3.html

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 21 Jan 2006, 08:01

that was a fine rendering
i almost thought chembai would break-at the end of the alapana- into the song dukh ke..of saigal
http://rapidshare.de/files/3455669/01-Dukh_Ke.mp3.html

Doordarshan have immortalised this raga with their splendid production for national integration-which is seen often on tv.
there is no doubt that this raga beautifully captures "desh prema"
and for those who love manna dey , this beautiful song is such a fine example from a classically rich singer, one who did not sing even one poor song in his entire career.
http://rapidshare.de/files/3455756/03-P ... a.mp3.html

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 21 Jan 2006, 08:03

srkris: The lyrics you have posted is slightly different from the text form Lalitadasar's book attached below.

nanda nandanA. rAgA: dEs. Adi tALA.

P: nanda nandanA nanda laharIm bhajE vraja sundarIm
A: brndAvanE mudA viharantIm kAntyAvanam prakAshayantIm
C: rAsa maNDala nAyikaram mrdu hAsa nindita candrikAm
vAsudEva prANAdhikaram lalitA dAsanutAmrAdhikaram

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 21 Jan 2006, 08:09

srkris: The lyrics you have posted is slightly different from the text form Lalitadasar's book attached below.

Of course, of course. Thanks. I'm removing my version of the lyrics so that it is not misleading to others.

i almost thought chembai would break-at the end of the alapana- into the song dukh ke..of saigal

Wow it seems so to me too. A brilliant 4 minutes of Saigal!!!

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 21 Jan 2006, 08:09

that was from the film bhakth soordas.
there is one more song-hat gai lo-i am just cleaning it up for hiss , before putting it up.
no wonder that all the great hm musicians of the day used to admire saigals ability to capture the essence of a raga in his renderings.bhimsen joshi and kishori have repeatedly sung babul mora in sindhu bhairavi in their concerts .bismillah khan went one step further, he cut an album where his rendering was digitally mixed with saigals original , making it look like an accompaniment.unfortunately we have lost that tape-someone must have borrowed it and ...
every year on january 30th doordarshan broadcasts a program on him(birthday)

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 21 Jan 2006, 08:10

For me (a doting father that I am), 'dhEsh' always conjures up BArathidhAsan's 'thunbam nErgayil yAzh eduththu nI yamakkinbam shErka mAttAyA, kaNNE?'! Unfortunately, the only rendering I have is a commercial one. I also like Tanjore Sankara Iyer's 'rAma nAma'

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 21 Jan 2006, 08:16

Ravi:

I think there is a Dandapani Desigar rendition of the song "thunbam nErgayil"- is that the one you are referring to as the commercial version?

Chithra

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 21 Jan 2006, 08:17

Chithra,
NO: I have Sudha Ragunathan's version in one of Amuthams' releases: very charming: I specifically love the phrase: 'tamizh kUththin murayinAl Adi kAtta mAttAyA?' I like Amutham's CDs because they have a booklet with the lyrics and other info.
Ravi
Would like to listen to D. Desikars' version too!

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 21 Jan 2006, 08:20

for this song, daNDapANi dEsikar gives a small informational speech before starting the song..
regarding the choice of the rAgam for this song and sings the first line in 'aTHANA' and says it doesnt suit.

i think the commercial cassette available was a double cassette. i dont know if you are referring to it.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 21 Jan 2006, 08:23

Dhool.com has the links for this song. It has Dandapani Desikar's version (with the talk) as well as the same song from the movie 'Or Iravu'.

http://www.dhool.com/sotd2/402.html

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 21 Jan 2006, 08:25

OH! THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH for that link!
Ravi

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 21 Jan 2006, 08:28

thanks knrh05 for the link.

i listened to this song long ago from the cassette. it was nice to listen to it again with AlApana.

anyone, any idea who the violinist is

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 21 Jan 2006, 08:30

I have no idea who the accompanists are. I have the commercial recording which is as usual unhelpful!

I have Seshagopalan's rendering of Thanjavur Sankara Iyer's 'Rama namame thuthi maname' preceded by 'Nanmaiyum nAdum' (Bharathiyar verse ?)- an excellent rendition but unfortunately a commercial recording ('Sri Rama Prabhavam' release).

KN

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 21 Jan 2006, 08:32

here is a rendering of rama namame by TRS
He refers to the fact that this was a kriti composed with Dhrupad Singing in mind.and proceeds to sing on similar lines.
Download-Link: http://rapidshare.de/files/3537134/05-R ... h.mp3.html

LakshamnJi,
can we have a listing of kritis in Desh,please

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 21 Jan 2006, 08:34

Aduvome pallu paduvome ananda sutantiram-Adi-Subramania Bharati
Amudam innamudam-Adi-N.S.Chidambaram
Angum ingum tuzhavum-Rupaka-V.Subramaniam
Ariyavanu (j)-?-?
Arulada (p)-T/Eka-Maadurai R.Muralidharan
Ayiram deivangal-T/Adi-?
Banda krishna banda krishna-Adi-Ashok R.Madhav
Bharata samrajya sukhi vijayi bhavita-Adi-Mayuram Vishvanatha Shastri
Bharatanin muttavanai-Adi-R.Shrinivasan (Nadopasana)
Bhringa ninna-Ata-Shripadaraya
Bittu banniro-Chapu-Vadirajasvami
Bolo bolo namashivaya hara-Adi-P.Subramania Sarma
Chinta lemamma-Adi-Madurai G.S.Mani
Choridi samsarambu sukhama indariki vera-Adi-Annamacharya
Darshan karo bhayya-Eka-Kollegal R.Subramaniam
Deshikam namamyaham-Rupaka-V.Subramaniam
Devaki nandana nanda mukunda vandita muni-Adi-Purandaradasa
Dhim tatare tani tana dhirana (tillana)-Adi-K.N.Dandayudapani Pillai
Enu anandavagite-Rupaka-Purandaradasa
Ermalar punguzhal ayar madar (tim)-Adi-Kulashekhara Azhvar
Ettanai koti inbam vaittai engal iraiva-Adi-Subramania Bharati
Ettuginrom nattazhumba raman tirunamam-Chapu-Tirumangai Azhvar
Ezhil konjum mukham onru kanden-Adi-Saidasan
Gatiyai vilakku madargal pudiya ratna bhushana (tp)-Anga-Arunagirinathar
Gauri patiye kalilsa vasa en manamenum-Adi-N.Savitri
Gayantam trayate iti-Adi-K.Rajaram
Giniye ninagenu-Jhampa-Vadirajasvami
Gokulam yamuna brindavanam purinda tavame-Adi-Papanasham Shivan
Gopiyargal engum undo (f)-?-Ilayaraja
Ha ha ha ha manava harige kette-Adi-Purandaradasa
Hannu bandide kolliri niviga chinna balakrishnanem-Adi-Purandaradasa
Hari narayana-Jhampa-Vadirajasvami
Hariye bhakuti-Jhampa-Purandaradasa
He muruga ezhai endanai ni marandadu-Rupaka-Kovai Subri
Innamudam sheyyum vanna karangal-Adi-Rajam Sitaram
Intadhyatmavam,,Prasannavenkatadasa
Ippiravi tappinal eppiravi vaikkumo ippozhude-Adi-S.Maralingam
Jane goperondugudi-Ata-Prasannavenkatadasa
Jaya jaya arunadri shivaya nama jaya jaya (tp)-Adi-Arunagirinathar
Kanapuram mevum shri shauriraja-Adi-R.Parthasarathy Iyengar
Kandu mayyal kondavan nanadi unnai (p)-Adi-Vasudeva Kavi
Kanna manivanna enai kattarul rajamanna-Rupaka-R.Parthasarathy Iyengar
Kannan tiruvadi,,Balasai
Kanni enra kadavulai nan kana vanden-Adi-Anayampatti Adishesha Iyer
Karunanidhim gadadharam sharanagata-Adi-Annamacharya
Kelalollane-Eka-Vadirajasvami
Keshavan tamar kizhmelemar ezhu (tvm)-Matya-Nammazhvar
Kollamalla inba vellam-Chapu-Nammazhvar
Kurai onrum illada govinda marai pugazh mohana-Adi-R.Parthasarathy Iyengar
Madhava govinda (b)-Adi-Chitravina N.Ravikiran
Madu meikkum kanna unakku mandalam ellam penna-Adi-?
Manila midinil maname ni manida-Adi-Svarna Venkatesha Dikshitar
Manimekalaiyodu mamalar koyya-Adi-V.Subramaniam
Mannu perum pugazh madhavan mamani (tim)-Adi-Andal
Marakatavalli magizh vijaya raghava-Adi-R.Parthasarathy Iyengar
Mattunagar,,N.Viramani
Mayil pili (p)-Adi-Madurai R.Muralidharan
Mozhikkum ninaivukkum ettada,,Abhirami Bhattar
Mundura uraikken kuzhal madavar-Adi-Tirumangai Azhvar
Murahara nagadhara govinda divya-Adi-R.Parthasarathy Iyengar
Muralidhara-Adi-Ramachandrier
Muruga murugavena muzhu manattodu urugiye-T/Eka-Tamizhannaidasan
Muttura uraikken viraikuzhal madavar-Adi-Tirumangai Azhvar
Na donkadare ninna nama donke vitthala-Adi-Purandaradasa
Nadonkadare-Adi-Purandaradasa
Namo narayanaya namaha samadika nandaya sarveshray-K/Chapu-Annamacharya
Nanda nandana nanda laharim bhaje vraja-Adi-Lalitadasar
Nanmaiye nalgena vendi nirppom enrum navagraha dai-Adi-S.Vembu
Narayanan enru shollu-Chapu-M.D.Ramanathan
Narayanan muzhuvezh ulagukku-Matya-Nammazhvar
Natha hare jagannatha hare sidati (ap 12) (Pashyat-Adi-Jayadeva
Nazar milake-C/Eka-Ambujam Krishna
Ni ariyayo shollu nilave tuya shentamizh-Adi-K.S.Krishnamurti
Nilakantha phalanetra-Rupaka-Pallavur Mani Iyer
Niramaya puratana parapara varamrta nirakula (tp)-K/Adi-Arunagirinathar
O raghuvira yani ne pilachina nohoyanarada-Adi-Bhadrachalam Ramdas
Odi va odi va ododi va mazhaimukhil vanna-Adi-Vinai Shesha Iyer
Oyyara nadai nadandu-Adi-Rajam Sharma
Padinaru padi-Adi-N.S.Chidambaram
Pakkuva vachara lakshana sakhadi patshana (tp)-S/Chapu-Arunagirinathar
Palisenna nupadulaveresi,,Nirguna Shivayogi
Paradevi unadu padame nambinen paratpari shivakama-Adi-Vinai A.Sundaram Iyer
Parimala mighavula shandu mamata muruga (tp)-Anga-Arunagirinathar
Parukkulle nalla nadu bharata nadu-Adi-Subramania Bharati
Pashyati dishi dishi rahasi (ap 12) (Natha hare)-Adi-Jayadeva
Pattukkoru pulavan bharatiyada avan pattai-Adi-?
Pazham padal kondavan-Adi-Madurai G.S.Mani
Puttarum poighai punal iduve enakkarudi (tvc)-Adi-Manikkavachakar
Rama namame tudi diname-Adi-Tanjavur Shankara Iyer
Rama namava nudi nudi kama kroda-Adi-Purandaradasa
Roga harane kripasagara shri guru-Adi-Jagannathavithaladasa
Sanatana dharasamvardani-Adi-K.Ramaraj
Sannavan ivan yaramma (p)-Adi-?
Sati saubhagyavati yuvati sada gunavati-Adi-N.Savitri
Sharanam sharanam ayyappa nin sharanam-Adi-Rukmini Ramani
Shilam illa shiriyanelum sheivinaiyo (tvm)-Chapu-Nammazhvar
Shiva shiva-Adi-N.P.Ramasvami
Sholai malai vazhum endan aonda muruga perum-Adi-C.V.Padmanabhan
Sholla sholla inikkum-Adi-Rajam Sharma
Sundareshvaram-Adi-A.V.Krishnamachar
Svami nine-Dadra-Mahapatidas
Ta dhinna dhinna dhinna (t)-Rupaka-Madurai N.Krishnan
Taka dhim tadhim nadhru dhim(t)-Adi-Lalgudi Jayaraman
Tatyavacham tava-Adi-V.Subramaniam
Tillana (dhim tatare tani tana dhirana)-Adi-K.N.Dandayudapani Pillai
Tillana (taka dhim tadhim nadrudhim)-Adi-Lalgudi Jayaraman
Tindada paviyanen tingume ninaitteno-Adi-Indira Shrinivasan
Tiruttani talattinile tigazhndidum murugane-Adi-Kovai Subri
Tora buddhi kasuk hona tu jivaste isna mora buddhi-Adi-Natanagopalanayaki
Tunbam nerkaiyil yaridattinil inbam sherkka-Adi-Bharatidasan
Udyadbhanu sankasham chitram chitrupam-Adi-Kollegal R.Subramaniam
Ulhasamaghave-Adi-Chitravina N.Ravikiran
Vande ganapatim-Adi-K.Rajaram
Varam arulvai tiru adi keshava sharanadainden-Adi-R.Parthasarathy Iyengar
Varam arulvai tiru marudamalai muruga-Adi-R.Parthasarathy Iyengar
Varuvai varuvai-Adi-Subramania Bharati
Vasam enum malarin pasham ennum tenai-Adi-Cuddalore Subramaniam
Vel eduttu vilaiyadum pillai anbarin-Adi,
Vin ashaiyal tannaiye-Adi-V.Subramaniam
Yake ninilli-Adi-Kanakadasa
Yarenna uluhuvarai-Adi-Prasannavenkatadasa
Yavum un mayame enre paninden-Adi-Anayampatti Adishesha Iyer

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 21 Jan 2006, 08:39

Wow Lakshman, that's a virtual goldmine of songs. Thanks for listing them out.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 21 Jan 2006, 08:44

I though that DKP's version of AduvomE paLLU pAduvOmE (nAm iruvar) with Kamala's scintillating dance was set to mAnd, and not dhEsh. I have NOT heard a dhEsh version of this song. Anyone with a dhEsh version???

Ravi

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 21 Jan 2006, 08:46

Yes Shankar
The nAM iruvar version is maaND. But there is also a desh version. Hope coolkarni can find it and u/l

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 21 Jan 2006, 08:46

The des reference is in the book "Bharatiyar Padalgal" by Pattamadai Krishna Iyer. Don't know if any audio is available.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 21 Jan 2006, 08:47

would like to recall one very crisp and beautiful rtp neivEli sri santAnagOpAlan rendered in newjersey, a few months back - it was simply a beauty!!

the rAgams handled were kEdAragowLai, suruTTi, dEsh - he explained it was smthg he wanted to try - the 3 rAgams have the same notes - with different prayogams & gamakams

regards

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 21 Jan 2006, 08:47

That kind of tightrope walking is what I would love to hear! Neyveli is quite capable of doing that. Too bad a recording cannot be made available

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 21 Jan 2006, 08:48

Here is a nice, short kannada song in dEs.
http://rapidshare.de/files/3695328/ninnagarile.mp3.html

Dr.Shrikaanth: Any idea who the composer is? Thanks.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 21 Jan 2006, 08:49

I would also like the lyrics of the song. Thanks.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 21 Jan 2006, 08:50

That kind of tightrope walking is what I would love to hear! Neyveli is quite capable of doing that. Too bad a recording cannot be made available

cml.
not everything is lost ,though.
neyveli sang these for a private audience-a series covering most popular ragams
by smoking out the desh you have picked up the desh track i had reserved for aug 15th
http://rapidshare.de/files/3695171/Desh.mp3.html
http://rapidshare.de/files/3695296/Kedargowla.mp3.html
http://rapidshare.de/files/3695407/Suruti.mp3.html

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 21 Jan 2006, 08:50

Thanks coolkarni

Neyveli is a great teacher as well. His raaga series have mesmerized a lot of music lovers to discover the beauties of our Karnatic ragas. In the three selected by you he shows very cleverly how you can easily distinguish and discriminate between closely related ragas. He is one of those rare modern artiste who is not possessive.

Now your task is to beat this and find us one befitting the grand occassion. Our hearts are with you this Monday!