Raga of tyagaraja kriti."jnana mosagarada"

[hanquill]

This kriti is now sing.in poorvakalyan.Earlier books show the raga of the kriti as"shadvidamargini" the 46th mela sampoornam.A year back one vidudhi sang in shad.46th mela inChennai Music Acadmy.it was good.Chemmangudi mama I think changed to poorv kal.Any comments pl?

[bhakthim dehi]

I don't know who changed this to Poorvikalyani , but I feel that is not a wrong choice (if one's intent is to change).
Known fact is that there was an old version in Shadvidhamargini. What is unknown is that there use to be a version in Gamanasrama. No one is even aware of that version to my knowledge.
I hope you can now make out the reason for my initial statement.
Personally I feel Shadvidhamargini should have been the composers choice as it appropriately conveys the mood of the song.

[Suryasriram]

The original raga of the Kriti is Shadvidhamargini. It provides more bhava (of Karunyam) and since I know this version I can safely say that it is much better than the one in Purvikalyani.

[bhakthim dehi]

Suryasriram
This is one of the most disfigured composition.

[sureshvv]

Especially here in the title of the thread.

[VK RAMAN]

Disfigured even the name "tyg" - Mahaanubhaava has even reached to that level for the smart phone junkies

[hanquill]

To amplify:I heard maha vid .madurai mani Iyer school of thought singing in shad.esp.Tvs always sings this kriti in shad. Also i heard vid.TMT sing this kriti in shad.

[bhakthim dehi]

I feel lets not disfigure this ragam more by calling it as shad

[rshankar]

Sad, bad, shaD!

[hanquill]

Ok.just for short form.
Now.the thyagaraja kriti"paahirama dootha jagat",a rare kriti is sung in raga shadvida margini and many say this is correct.In some books it is mentioned as "vasantha varali. "I feel comfortabe in singing in shadvida.because it is a rare melam.. a beautiful combination of bhavapriya
(ra.gi) and harahara priya.(dhi.nl). Here again madurai mani iyer school used to sing in shadvida.Any comments.?

[bhakthim dehi]

Old books Say it as Vasanthavarali, a janya of Natabhairavi. It is now rendered in Shadvidamargini or rendered in the above said raga but calling as Vasanthavarali.
To my knowledge no one now sings in vasantgavarali (in concerts).
Are you doing some research ?

[hanquill]

Iam not doing any research as it is.but acted as a guide for two doctoral students.Tanj univ.
I am a vaggeyakara for all 72 melakartha under name"sivadasan" duly approved by all late sangita kalacharyas:s.Rajam,TRS.DR.SRIVATSA, and nowDr.S.R.J. Dr.omana kutty.
You can listen in "you tube", where I sung 22 vivadi ragas under head "rare 72 mela ragas " 10 years ago. my name is pammal hariharan.

[venusishya]

Wow...very interesting krithi. I have played this many many times without knowing that it was not originally in pUrvikalyANi. Fascinating! Does anybody have recordings of the previous vintage versions?

[vilomachapu]

R.Vedavalli has given a recording titled 'pramANam' in which she has sung this song in ShaDvidamArgiNi and also other songs in their original versions like nagumOmu in AbhEri with D1, rAmA nIyeDa in dilIpakam, sItamma mAyammA in lalitA etc.