Request for renditions

rshankar · Post by **rshankar** » 15 Nov 2005, 20:09

Kulkarni sa'ab,
In your inexhaustable supply (is seems like a renewable source of wonder to me!), do you have these compositions of Tyagaraja, preferably vocal renditions?
1. vara shiKi vAhana
2. sari yevvarE srI jAnakI?
3. srI janaka thanayE
4. dhEhi thava padha Bakthim
5. pAhi rAma dhUtha
6. kalugunA padha nIraja sEvA
7. vinathA sutha rArA (huseinI)

Thanks!
Ravi

srkris · Post by **srkris** » 15 Nov 2005, 21:37

Ravi,

Here is 'Dehi Tavapada'. Although I have heard no less than ten different singers singing this composition, this rendition comes out on top, the swaroopam of Sahana coming out beautifully (KJY in 1968 at Shanmukhananda, Bombay)

http://rapidshare.de/files/7671165/Dehi ... a.mp3.html

Pahi Ramadootha is certainly an MDR masterpiece. I will upload 'Sariyevvare Sri Janaki' shortly

rshankar · Post by **rshankar** » 16 Nov 2005, 09:38

(KJY in 1968 at Shanmukhananda, Bombay)

Chembai,
THAT was lovely: and an early KJY, when he was 'unsullied' by cinema pAttu (as my mother would say!). THANK YOU so very much!
Ravi

coolkarni · Post by **coolkarni** » 21 Nov 2005, 06:29

rshankar..
can you please indicate the ragas also for all the krithis.
this is going to be a tough paper for me !!!

meena · Post by **meena** » 21 Nov 2005, 10:42

varashikhi vAhana. rAgA: supradIpa.
sari evvarE shrI jAnaki. rAgA: shrIranjani.
shrI janaka tanayE. rAgA: kalakaNThi.
dEhi tava pada bhaktim rAgA: shahAna.
pAhi rAma dUta. rAgA: vasantavarALi / shaDvidhamArgiNi.
kalugunA pada rAgA: pUrNalalitA.

coolkarni · Post by **coolkarni** » 21 Nov 2005, 10:46

now that the test paper has been diluted by the school principal, i guess i will have to settle for poorer grades !!!

meena · Post by **meena** » 21 Nov 2005, 12:30

Kji
umee, i can bump up those grades, if u could find sree tkr rendetions in that magic box of urs. Shankar hope this is ok with u.

chithra · Post by **chithra** » 22 Nov 2005, 00:23

Sri Kulkarni:

Would you happen to have pAhi rAma dUta sung in both vasantavarALi / shaDvidhamArgiNi? Thank you.

chithra

abadri · Post by **abadri** » 22 Nov 2005, 04:12

Sari Evvare Sri Janaki (As rendered by TMT-MSG-TKM)
[rapidshare link deleted]

Pahi Rama Dhuta (in Vasantavarali presented by MDR-MC-PR)
[rapidshare link deleted]

Varashiki Vahana (presented by Chittoor Subramania Pillai)
[rapidshare links deleted]

rshankar · Post by **rshankar** » 22 Nov 2005, 07:22

Meena, My post got lost, but your idea is more than OK with me, it is A OK!
Ravi

rshankar · Post by **rshankar** » 22 Nov 2005, 08:18

Badri,
THANK YOU so very much!
Ravi

chithra · Post by **chithra** » 22 Nov 2005, 10:53

Badri:

Thank you so very much for the uploads; I look forward to comparing Vasanthavarali and Shadvidhamargini versions of Pahi Rama Dhootha.

chithra

kaumaaram · Post by **kaumaaram** » 22 Nov 2005, 11:46

Srkris,

I have a special liking for the raag Sahana. The one you had uploaded is a super piece. Srirangam TR Kannan, a relatively unknown vidwan but known in Tiruppugazh circles, used raag Sahana to sing the piece "Mundhu Tamizh Maalai" (which the vidwans used to sing in Chenchuruti). Thanks for cherry picking this song.

In the teleserial Rail Sneham, KJY rendered a song in Sahana. Do you have that piece with you? His voice was so mellifluous and magical that it captured the essence and beauty of Sahana so well.

Since you agree with that in the early days KJY was singing well, I would not hesitate to make yet another atrocious request of sparing the entire concert, if possible.

Kaumaaram Sivakumar T

srkris · Post by **srkris** » 22 Nov 2005, 12:05

Kaumaaram,

Thanks, I hope I had the entire concert with me, but sadly I dont. I downloaded this song from a website I am not able to recollect, and that website had a couple of other songs by him as well.

I also dont have the teleserial song you mentioned.

Although I wouldnt go as far as stating that KJY was singing well enough earlier, I can certainly say it was probably a lot lot better than his current form.

chithra · Post by **chithra** » 22 Nov 2005, 13:47

Badri:

Just finished hearing MDR's Pahi Rama Dhootha. It is in Shadvidhamargini (42nd mela, Prathi MAdhyama Ragam), rather than in Vasanthavarali (Suddha Madhyama Janya Ragam). Did any of the professional artits sing it / play it in that ragam? Is a true Vasantha Varali version of Pahi Rama Dhootha available at all?

chithra

rshankar · Post by **rshankar** » 22 Nov 2005, 20:46

Chithra,
Thanks for that clarification: as far as I can tell from my books, Tyagaraja composed it in vv and not shadviDHamArgiNI!...Does anyone know how/when/why it was changed?
Chembai,
I agree with you that the older (untainted KJY) was better than the later version: My mother makes a very interesting observation: the likes of MLV, DKP and MSS in her opinion benefited from their forays into singing for movies (according to her, it made them emote their songs better, and the clarity of their sAhithyam was better, their pronunciation was absolutely clear, they did not muff words etc), but she feels that KJY and more recently, Unnikrishnan's music may have suffered from their forays into tinseldom. Any comments from the more experienced? Does it reflect the fact that over time, movie music has evolved away from CM?
Ravi

arunk · Post by **arunk** » 22 Nov 2005, 23:39

Doesnts MDRs version use G1 and not G2? G2 would be in shaDvidamArgini. From what I could tell (this has been discussed on sangeetham.com), his version (as usual top-notch MDR stuff) is a mixture of vachaspati and varali. The is closest to that is navanItam (41) which differs from shaDvidamArgini (46) in the gandharam (G1 vs G2).

What is more interesting is someone mentioned on sangeetham.com that TNS performed some other krithi in shaDvidamArgini and it *also* sounded like a mixture of vAcaspati and varali. Unless shaDvidamArgini at some point in history was used to refer to navanItam by some. But where is vasantavarALi in all this (:-)

It just doesnt add up.

Arun

kaumaaram · Post by **kaumaaram** » 25 Nov 2005, 10:45

coolkarni · Post by **coolkarni** » 25 Nov 2005, 12:42

that is a lovely and unusual concert which I had opnce uploaded-do not remeber where-but subsequently a great quality recording appeared in rasikapriya.com.
I have boith versions with me BUT UNFORTUNATELY I WILL BE UNABLE TO UPLOAD FOR SOME MORE TIME-BUSY SHIFTING RESIDENCE...
if badri does have this recording.it should be on its way..

kaumaaram · Post by **kaumaaram** » 25 Nov 2005, 14:31

Gentlemen

I am jumping on my nerves (kind attn: Mr Srkris - this is a different form of impatience). Please do help by uploading it.

Kaumaaram Sivakumar T

srkris · Post by **srkris** » 25 Nov 2005, 15:21

abadri · Post by **abadri** » 29 Nov 2005, 04:31

Bombay Symphony CONCERT-1973

TNK-MC-KSG-RKSuryanarayana-UKS-VR-THV-RSK-PMN

http://rapidshare.de/files/6318537/01-Varna-abhogi.mp3
http://rapidshare.de/files/6318837/02-v ... dhwani.mp3
http://rapidshare.de/files/6319277/03-Endaro-Sree.mp3
http://rapidshare.de/files/6320179/04-P ... lahari.mp3
http://rapidshare.de/files/6321483/05-S ... indola.mp3
http://rapidshare.de/files/6321998/06-M ... kanthi.mp3
http://rapidshare.de/files/6322177/07-K ... Varali.mp3
http://rapidshare.de/files/6322605/08-N ... Abheri.mp3
http://rapidshare.de/files/6322825/09-Magudi.mp3
http://rapidshare.de/files/6323039/10-r ... oohala.mp3
http://rapidshare.de/files/6324212/11-RTP-Kapi.mp3

What is this concert please? Do you have any idea? Can I have the links once again uploaded? Apparently, I notice that some of the files mentioned in that site are uploaded in xdrive.

Kaumaaram Sivakumar T

The set I've seems to be missing 3 tracks in this list (Nalinakanti, Varali, Magudi).
Also the track numbering is slightly different. Anyways, here's what I've

[rapidshare links deleted]

kaumaaram · Post by **kaumaaram** » 29 Nov 2005, 10:26

Oh Badri,

So kind and thoughtful of you. Please see Akash Vani Sangeeth Sammelan Thread for you to download a full concert of TNK Violin Trio FM program.

Kaumaaram

kaumaaram · Post by **kaumaaram** » 29 Nov 2005, 11:44

Dear Coolkarni,

At the earliest opportunity, may I request you to post the left over ones: Nalinakanti, Varali and Magudi.

Dear Badri: Thanks once again.

Kaumaaram Sivakumar T

rshankar · Post by **rshankar** » 29 Nov 2005, 23:05

Chembai/Others:
Any luck that you may have uploadable versions of
5. pAhi rAma dhUtha
6. kalugunA padha nIraja sEvA
7. vinathA sutha rArA (huseinI)?
Thanks.
Also, Lakshman/Meena do you happen to have the name of the composer and the lyrics of the song 'varuvAr, varuvAr enru vazhi pArthirundhEn' - some start the song from 'kuyilE, unakku ananthakOti namaskAram, kumaran vara kUvuvAi'?
Thanks.
Ravi

meena · Post by **meena** » 29 Nov 2005, 23:47

shankar

under sree OVK comp. list i have-varuvAr, varuvAr enru-yadukulakAmbhOdhi, but sorry i do not have the lyrics.

srkris · Post by **srkris** » 30 Nov 2005, 07:07

rshankar,

http://rapidshare.de/files/7969160/Pahi ... varALi.wma

Is the above file not working or downloadable?

I dont have the other two.

rshankar · Post by **rshankar** » 30 Nov 2005, 21:05

Chembai, Sorry! I do have that. I was looking for the other 2!
Ravi

knrh05 · Post by **knrh05** » 04 Dec 2005, 04:19

rshankar,
I have a version from the movie 'manithan' sung by MLV.
-link deleted-

I collect old Tamil film songs and this is one of my favorites as I especially like MLV's music.

I got the following from mayyam.com (http://forumhub.mayyam.com/hub/viewtopi ... 9546#99546)

Song#3: kuyilE unakkanantha kOdi (manidhan)
Movie: manidhan(1953)
Singer: M.L.Vasantha kumaari
MD: S.V.Venkataraman
Lyrics: Surabhi
Cast: T.K.Shanmugam,T.K.Bhagavathi,Madhuri Devi,KrishNakumari,Pandaribhai

kuyilE..kuyilE
kuyilE unakkanantha kOdi namaskaaram
kumaran varak kUvuvaay
nI kumaran varak kUvuvaay

kuyilE unakkanantha kOdi namaskaaram
kumaran varak kUvuvaay
nI kumaran varak kUvuvaay

malai maangkani sOlaiyilE
malai maangkani sOlaiyilE
maruvi enaiyE pirindha
kumaran varak kUvuvaay
nI kumaran varak kUvuvaay

varuvaar enRE vazhi paarththEn
vizhi sOrndhEn
varuvaar enRE vazhi paarththEn
vizhi sOrndhEn
maaRan kaNaigaL vandhaal
dheeran varak kaaNEnE
maaRan kaNaigaL vandhaal
dheeran varak kaaNEnE
kumaran varak kUvuvaay
nI kumaran varak kUvuvaay

rshankar · Post by **rshankar** » 14 Dec 2005, 02:07

Kulkarni sa'ab, or any other generous soul, do you by any chance have MSS singing these: nA manUngI in mishra KhamAj; nIr Baran kaise jAon in tilakamOd; and mAnO mAnO kanhaiyyA in jOnpuri, that you can share?
Thanks.
Ravi

coolkarni · Post by **coolkarni** » 14 Dec 2005, 11:29

i was just patting myself on the back for locating a nice Baul Dhum by Nikhil bannerji for you.
But this request..
Boy You do keep raising the bar , don't you.
anyway I will try.

rshankar · Post by **rshankar** » 14 Dec 2005, 20:30

i was just patting myself on the back for locating a nice Baul Dhum by Nikhil bannerji for you.
But this request..
Boy You do keep raising the bar , don't you.
anyway I will try.

Kulkarni sa'ab,
I would LOVE the baul DHun first, please!
I hope I am not abusing your generosity by asking for 'rare gems'! But then, I think you are the 'akshayapAtram' of this site!
THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!
Ravi

rshankar · Post by **rshankar** » 14 Dec 2005, 20:45

I have a version from the movie 'manithan' sung by MLV.

knrh05
Thanks for the MLV version! I am not sure if the person given credit on the mayyam site (Lyrics: Surabhi) is correct. Anyway, if you get a chance, listen to the version of this song by Radha Badri (a regular vocalists for BarathanAtyam dancers) and another by Ganesh (of the Ganesh Kumaresh violin duo) for the film 'Dance Like a Man'. They are both wonderful, but I think Ganesh's version is better than even this gem from MLV that you've posted.
I too collect old tamizh movie songs, especially the ones sung by MLV: I love the ones where she sang playback for Padmini because many of them had scintillating choreography. I have been fortunate to collect video/DVD clips of these songs, and they make for great watching, especially on snowy, gloomy days!
Ravi

coolkarni · Post by **coolkarni** » 17 Dec 2005, 19:00

http://rapidshare.de/files/9331133/Baul ... e.mp3.html

rshankar..
here it is.

rshankar · Post by **rshankar** » 18 Dec 2005, 05:24

Kulkarni sa'ab:
THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH! The clip was melodious: it sounded similar to Rabindra sangeeth to me...comments from others?
Thanks again!
Ravi

Sahana-priyan · Post by **Sahana-priyan** » 18 Dec 2005, 22:32

Coolkarni saab,
I am a new member here but somewhat old in sangeetham discussion forum where i have seen your postings. Would you be able to kindly post MDR compositions (which he has sung himself in some cases). I saw an earlier thread on the same but didn't catch in time. Atleast, can you post 'Velavane' in Sahana?

Thanks.

rshankar · Post by **rshankar** » 18 Dec 2005, 23:29

Sahana-Priyan,
Since Kulkarni sa'ab is still waiting for broadband access, here is the link for vElavanE:
http://rapidshare.de/files/9399944/vEla ... _.MP3.html
Ravi

Sahana-priyan · Post by **Sahana-priyan** » 19 Dec 2005, 11:53

Shankar sir,
Romba Nandri..

I downloaded and listened to it immediately. One more chance to hear to the great Shri. MDR. Do you have any other krithis composed by him?

Thanks.

meena · Post by **meena** » 20 Dec 2005, 00:09

sahana

janani nAtajana-SankarAbharaNam-cApu-MDR
nIvale daivamu-yadukulakAmbhOji-cApu-MDR
pAdayugamunu-janaranjani-Adi-MDR
vighna rAja-SrIranjani-Adi-MDR

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Sahana-priyan · Post by **Sahana-priyan** » 20 Dec 2005, 01:43

Meena,
What am i do to listen to the krithis? I downloaded the .rar file. Installed Win RAR and extracted the music files. They are in .rm and doesn't play even through real audio. What should i be doing?

Thanks.

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 20 Dec 2005, 04:08

u did everthing right sahana, i just tested- d/l and was able to play- using real player, i have version 10.5 maybe u need to update real player, sorry not tech savvy!

srkris · Post by **srkris** » 20 Dec 2005, 20:28

If you want to forget a player for each format and be able to play all formats in a single player, you might be tempted to try "Real Alternative", which plays every conceivable format (both audio and video) I know...

http://www.free-codecs.com/download/Rea ... native.htm

kiransurya · Post by **kiransurya** » 31 Dec 2005, 17:06

Just question for for you all people. Is Is there a krithi by Dikshitar on mahishaashuramardhini in bilahari? I thought it is to be sung in Naarayani. I downloaded some files of Chembai from the net and found out that he sung it in Bilhari. Could anyone please clarify?
Thanks
Kiran

cmlover · Post by **cmlover** » 31 Dec 2005, 21:53

here you go

Composition : mahiShAsuramarddhinIm

Ragam : nArAyaNi

Thalam : misra cApu

Pallavi :
mahiShAsuramarddhinIm namAmi mahanIyakaparddhinIm

Anupallavi :
mahiShamastaka naTanabhEdavinOdinIm mOdinIm
mAlinIm mAninIm praNatajana saubhAgyadAyinIm

caraNam :
shankacakrashUlAnkushapANIm shaktisEnAm madhuravANIm
pankajanayanAm pannagavENIm pAlita guruguhAm purANIm
shankarArddhasharIriNIm samasta dEvatArUpiNIm
kankaNAlankrtAbjakarAm kAtyAyanIm nArAyaNIm

kiransurya · Post by **kiransurya** » 31 Dec 2005, 22:04

Hi CMlover
Thanks for the song. Actually, I learnt it in the raag Naarayani. However, I have a copy it wher Sri Chembai sang it in Bilahari, which a bit confuses me. Did you learn it Narayani too or in Bilahari?
Kiran

srkris · Post by **srkris** » 31 Dec 2005, 22:40

It is in Narayani all right... The question is where did Chembai learn it in Bilahari, or whether he changed it himself to Bilahari... all the recordings where he sings it are in Bilahari. I dont know whether he is justified in changing the raga thus, that too of a Dikshitar Kriti.

kiransurya · Post by **kiransurya** » 01 Jan 2006, 00:08

Iam fanatic of Dikshitar, when I downloaded it I was expecting a magnificient Narayani coming out of Chembai and was shocked to hear Bilahari. At one point I even thought that may be the raaga lakshana of Narayani itself is diff from what I learnt. Now that you have confirmed I can rest in peace.

knrh05 · Post by **knrh05** » 01 Jan 2006, 04:03

kiran,
Can you upload the correct Narayani version? I have heard the Chembai Bilahari version only.

kiransurya · Post by **kiransurya** » 01 Jan 2006, 04:16

knrh05
I dont have it in narayani either. Thats why, Iam very disspointed to hear it in Bilahari.

ramanganpath · Post by **ramanganpath** » 11 Jan 2006, 13:30

I have a special interest in listening to devotional renderings by Sri Anantharama Dikshithar. Can somebody throw light on from where I can download his devotional songs in MP3 format.

Ramanganpath