Jayachamaraja Odeyar (Mysore Maharajah) - Part II

rshankar · Post by **rshankar** » 28 Aug 2006, 05:35

drshrikaanth wrote:nAga has many meanings including snake, elephant, cloud., amomg others. And in word compounds, when used as a prefix, it means "excellent/great/best of its kind". This meaning will be most appropriate. So nAgaswara means the best swaras, AvaLi is a row/arrangement. SO nAgaswarAvaLi is an "arrangement/row of the best swaras".

Thanks.

coolkarni · Post by **coolkarni** » 28 Aug 2006, 10:31

unable to upload for a few more days.internet down at home.

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 28 Aug 2006, 16:32

Here is a once very popular kRti in nAgaswarAvaLi- narasimhuDu udayincene by Mysore Sadasiva Rao. Forgot to mention it before. It is sung by B.V.Raman & B.V.Lakshman

Clicke here to download narasimhuDu- nAgaswarAvaLi- sadASivarAyaru

EDIT: This kRti is in (kamalA)manOhari NOT nAgaswarAvaLi.

cmlover · Post by **cmlover** » 28 Aug 2006, 22:24

Very interesting lyric, rendition as well as svaraprasthaaram. Does deserve the final applause. (the gati change is electrifying. Eill be obliged for the lyric (Lakshman Please) and the meanin too (kiran please)....

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 28 Aug 2006, 23:14

While we wait for Lakshman to post the lyrics for narasimhuDu, the next kRti

paripAhimAm mahAdEvi in ShaNmukhapriya, miSra jhampe

Clicke here to download paripAhimAm- ShaNmukhapriya- jhampe- oDeyar

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 28 Aug 2006, 23:55

narasimhuDu, I have wrongly labelled te tALa as Adi. It should be khaNDa tripuTa.

cmlover wrote:(the gati change is electrifying.

CML- Please specify timelines for gati change for everyone's benefit.

Lakshman · Post by **Lakshman** » 29 Aug 2006, 00:03

narasimhuDu. rAgA: kamalamanOhari. k/tripuTa tALA.

P: narasimhuDu dayincenu sabhA sthambamuna asuruni garvapu palukulu nuTikenu
A: sarasijAsanANDamu pagala dikkula tara nakhambuluDulla jaladhi kUrNilla
dharaNivaNa gagana kanaka kashipudhrunca utkIrNAgni jvAluDaiyugra tanu
(svara sAhitya)
sanakAdulu vismayimpa suraripu suta pAda dIrcuTaku pradOSa samayamunanu
analakalanu balu vaDika nEtramulavvalpaDa paDa paDa paDayanakanu murAripu
C: nIcuDaina tanujuni poTTa vajra samamulaina nakhambulacE jIri
niSkAruNyuDai rutiramunu drAvi parEkulu mAlika kadarincuNDaka
vAcAma gOcaruni lakSmI dEvi brahma rudra surEndrAdulu nutulu salupa
vara prahlAduDu mshAntuDai vAni karuNinci sadAshiva kavini gAci

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 29 Aug 2006, 00:06

Thanks Lakshman. I had difficulty deciding between khaNDa tripuTa(5+4) and rUpaka(3*3).

BUT did you say kamalAmanOhari?

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 29 Aug 2006, 00:10

LOL, Should be more careful before being misled by wrong labelling. It is from sangeethapriya website. Yes it is (kamalA) manOhari. :embarrassed:

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 29 Aug 2006, 00:23

mAtu for ||paripAhimAm||

rAga: ShaNmukhapriya; miSra jhampe tALa

paripAhimAm mahAdEvi mInAkShi |
pArijAta taruriva mamEShTArtham dEhi ||P||

parimaLa puShpamAlini patita pAvani |
karivadana ShaNmukhapriya janani mAnini ||
kAruNya sudhAvAhini kadambavana vAsini kAtyAyani kalyANaguNa SAlini ||AP||

anAdi paraSiva dayitE bhakta janahitE |
AkArAnAkAra rUpayutE lalitE |
anAtha paripAlana niratE namastE |
akArAdyakShara samUhasthitE girisutE ||
sunAda vinOdapriyE mahAmAyE apramEyE sanakAdi munigEyE SrIvidyE ||C||

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 29 Aug 2006, 00:52

Notes on || paripAhimAm ||
rAga: ShaNmukhapriya; miSra jhampe tALa

paripAhimAm- protect me; mahAdEvi; mInAkShi;
pArijAta taruriva- like the wish-granting pArijAta tree;
mama iShTArtham dEhi- give me my desired fruits;

parimaLa puShpamAlini- You Who are bedecked with garland of fragrant flowers;
patita pAvani- You Who purify and emancipate those fallen;
karivadana ShaNmukhapriya janani- the beloved mother of gaNapati and subrahmaNya;
mAnini- proud/esteemed lady;
kAruNya sudhAvAhini- You Who are the stream/vehicle of compassion;
kadambavana vAsini- You Who reside in the forest of kadamba trees;
kAtyAyani; kalyANaguNa SAlini- You Who are endowed with all good and auspicious qualities.

anAdi paraSiva dayitE- Consort of the eternal ISvara;
bhakta janahitE- You Who are favourable to your devotees;
AkAra anAkAra rUpayutE- You Who are both with and wtihout form(saguNa as well as nirguNa depending on the devotee's state of mind); lalitE;
anAtha paripAlana niratE- You Who are immersed in the uplift and protection of the destitute; namastE- I salute You;
akArAdi akShara samUha sthitE- You Who are present in the alphabet;
girisutE- Daughter of the mountain;
sunAda vinOdapriyE- You Who like the play of music;
mahAmAyE- The great illusion that envelops the whole universe; apramEyE- You Who are immeasurable;
sanakAdi munigEyE- You WHo are sung by the sages such as sanaka; SrIvidyE.

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 29 Aug 2006, 06:33

ShaNmukhapriya is the 56th sampUrNa mELa. It is cAmara in tha asampUrNa system. Its scale is

SR2G2M2PD1N2S* | S*NDPMGRS ||

R-P. G-D & G-N are consonant pairs. R, P and N are resting notes. R.R.Keshavamurthy notes that all the swaras are jIvaswaras and that there is a lot of activity in the tArasthAyi. jAru gamaka adds beauty to the rAga. As I have mentioned in another thread, the credit for showing the possibilities in and beauty of the rAga goes to dIkShitar, notwithsatnding the fact that tyAgarAja has one(or 2?) kRtis to his credit in the rAga. SyAmASAstri, although has not used the rAga as such, has handled(discovered) cintAmaNi, a janya of the rAga.

The rAga is very beautiful in all the sthAyis. The nyAsa on RShabha is particularly endearing. It evokes SRngAra, hAsya and also karuNA rasas. But this is just to mention a few. adbhuta rasa can also be brought out in the rAga. Altogether a rAga that has enormous scope both in terms of expansion and in evoking moods. Although this rAga is not technically a "ghana" rAga, tAna in the rAga is captivating.

Even this krti of oDeyar's is replete with prAsa usage as well as yati prayOgas. In fact, it is nearly perfect save one or 2 places. the rAga has been handled neatly.

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 29 Aug 2006, 19:33

Next kRti is bhajarE rE bhaja- bhAnucandrike- caturaSra rUpaka tALa.
And it is on siddhivinAyaka!

Click here to download bhajarE rE bhaja- bhAnucandrike

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 29 Aug 2006, 19:36

sAhitya for ||bhajarE rE bhaja mAnasa||

rAga: bhAnu candrikE ; caturaSr rUpaka tALa

bhajarE rE bhaja mAnasa siddhivinAyakam sadA ||P||

bhavAnIsutam siddhidAyakam siddha sAdhya sEvitam||AP||

vidyOpAsaka vaSyam padmamitram vidyAdhipam |
sadyOjAtAdi pancabramhAtmakam anavadyam ||
virAga cUDAmaNim bhakta cintAmaNim |
bhAnucandrikA priyam sAmajavadanam sadayam ||C||

coolkarni · Post by **coolkarni** » 29 Aug 2006, 21:10

http://rapidshare.de/files/31203483/03- ... ravali.mp3

http://rapidshare.de/files/31204446/04- ... ravali.mp3

Sorry folks.Trying to keep pace with you.Here is a rendering by TMT/MSG/K Mani

cmlover · Post by **cmlover** » 29 Aug 2006, 21:28

DRS

The explicit use of the nishadam should have told us that it was not nagasvaravali. But I have difficulty recognizing kamalamanohari in that kriti being used to MD's kanjadalayataakShi. I noticed a sort of gati change around 3:45 which again could be pseudo since it may an acceleration of the kaalam. At any rate this is an interesting composition! Thanks Lakshman!

Though I am quite used to sAmajagamanam I am seeing for the first time sAmajavadanam:) Awaiting your interpretations!

meena · Post by **meena** » 29 Aug 2006, 23:08

CML
do u want me to post meaning for narasimhuDu here or lyrics sec?

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 29 Aug 2006, 23:11

Meena
We have already had the lyrics of NarasimhuD posted here by Lakshman. Thanks

meena · Post by **meena** » 29 Aug 2006, 23:16

Eill be obliged for the lyric (Lakshman Please) and the meanin too (kiran please)....

DRS, cml had requested meaning also. That is why i posted.

cml
pl. check lyrics sec. for meaning.

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 29 Aug 2006, 23:17

Oh Ok. Sorry I missed it. In the lyrics section please, if CML wants it.

cmlover · Post by **cmlover** » 29 Aug 2006, 23:18

meena
Please post the meaning in the lyric section. It is such a sonorous kriti and I would love to understand it fully and enjoy!
Thanks

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 30 Aug 2006, 00:24

Notes on ||bhajarE rE bhaja mAnasa||

rAga: bhAnu candrikE ; caturaSra rUpaka tALa

bhajarE- sing praise of; rE bhaja mAnasa- sing o mind; siddhivinAyakam; sadA- ever;

bhavAnIsutam- Son of pArvati; siddhidAyakam- Him Who grants all siddhis;
siddha sAdhya sEvitam- Him served by the siddhas and sAdhyas;

vidyOpAsaka vaSyam- Him Who is within reach of those in serious pursuit of knowledge/ arts/ sciences;
padmamitram- gaNESa is equated to the sun(Friend of lotus) which is bright, effulgent, dispels darkness and susutains life.
padma itself has the meaning of the sun. Is there any purANa reference to him being friendly to the sun? It has several other meanings none of which seem to fit in here comfortably. padmanEtram would have ben so much better;

vidyAdhipam- The patron/Lord of vidyA(learning);
sadyOjAtAdi pancabramhAtmakam- Him Who is the soul/essence of the 5 brahmas starting with sadyOjAta;
sadyOjAta. ISAna, tapuruSha, vAmadEva and aghOra are the five faces of ISvara. This is the first Iam hearing sadyOjAta etc being called as the pancabrahmas. The commnly accepted pancabrahmas are-brahma, viShNu, rudra, ISvara, sadASiva.

anavadyam- irreproachable One;
virAga cUDAmaNim- The crest jewel of detachment; bhakta cintAmaNim- Him WHo is a wish-granting cintAmaNi(a jewel) to His devotees;
bhAnucandrikA priyam- Him Wo likes the rAga bhANucandrike;
sAmajavadanam- Elephant-faced One; sadayam- Compassionate One.

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 30 Aug 2006, 00:26

CML sAmajavadanam is straightforward. Can you tells us how elephant came to be called sAmaja?

cmlover · Post by **cmlover** » 30 Aug 2006, 02:11

Of course sAmaja is elephant. The amarakOsham does not give a derivation since that is not included therein! Also sAmajAta means elephant meaning produced from sAmavEda. The derivative verse is
sAmajA hastinaH sAma gAyatO brahmaNO jAtA iti
Though the meaning is clear the puranic allusion eludes me.
I know IrAvatam came out of the kShIrAbdimathanam. Will be delighted to be enlightened!

cmlover · Post by **cmlover** » 30 Aug 2006, 02:21

padma also means kubEra. Hence a friend of kubEra will also fit!
Or esoterically padma denote the six chakras (lotus) in the body and ganESa is the adhipati of the fundamental mUlAdhAra cakra!

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 30 Aug 2006, 02:41

The interpretatio of mUlAdhAra did strike me. But I did not go for it as there is no indication to prefer the mUlAdhAra over any other cakra(except that the kRti is on gaNESa). That is too non-specific for oDeyar.

gaNESa as kubEra's friend, possible. But kubEra was a friend to ISvara not particularly to gaNESa AFAIK. Are there any purANik references? Without that, it sticks out rather oddly from the rest of the sAhitya.

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 30 Aug 2006, 02:43

sAmaja meaning elephant. "samaja" means forest/woods as also indra. sAmaja will mean "Of the woods", "obtained from forests". This is perfectly in order. Note that vanaja too has the meaning of elephant (apart from several others).

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 30 Aug 2006, 03:01

bhAnucandrike is a janya of the 8th mELa jana tODi/hanuma tODi. This is another rAga brought to light by oDeyar. It is a swarAntara- auDava upAnga janya. Its scale is

SM1D1N2S* | S*NDMG2S ||

Even from the scale, you would have noticed that it is very close to hindOLa. Rather too close for comfort. It is only the absence of gAndhAra in ascent that marks a difference, that seems tenuous. I could not find an significant difference in the handling of the swaras/ gamakas between the two. Especially given the fact that hindOLa is so well-known and popular, it is lke walking a tight rope with bhAnucandrike. The jump from S to M without coming back as in hindOLa is a difficult interval to negotiate. It is very easy to slip unconsciously into hindOLa by taking G from M before ascending. The singers of this kRti have not been able to avoid it completely.

That said, the rAga shares the beauty and attraction of hindOLa. oDeyar has wisely composed a short kRti in the rAga and set it to a small tALa to avoid repetitiveness and slippage into hindOLa. The kRti is certainly catchy. But this rAga will probably remain represented by this sole kRti. Given the fact that oDeyar has also composed in hindOLa (The famous cintayAmi jagadambAm), I wonder why he picked on bhAnucandrike.

kiransurya · Post by **kiransurya** » 30 Aug 2006, 03:03

drshrikaanth wrote:gaNESa as kubEra's friend, possible. But kubEra was a friend to ISvara not particularly to gaNESa AFAIK. .

I read a lil story from a book where Kubera invites Ganesha for a feast and insults him...

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 30 Aug 2006, 03:04

And I watched a cartoon.

cmlover · Post by **cmlover** » 30 Aug 2006, 03:37

I was wondering why the song sounded so much like Hindolam. Your discussion confirms it. No wonder this is a Ekakriti raga!

ramakriya · Post by **ramakriya** » 30 Aug 2006, 04:05

drshrikaanth wrote:

oDeyar has wisely composed a short kRti in the rAga and set it to a small tALa to avoid repetitiveness and slippage into hindOLa.

But really his decision to compose in this hasn't been a wise one I think.. It is extremely hard for anyone to maintain it distinct from hindOLa.

-Ramakriya

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 30 Aug 2006, 04:16

You echoed my thoughts Ramakriya. Who knows, odeyar may have had his reasons.

murralidharan_vra · Post by **murralidharan_vra** » 30 Aug 2006, 10:56

pinkchry

Thanks for woodiyar songs. But it is very difficult to download at a stretch. It tooks 12 hours do download. Is it possible for you to load in some other service.

meena · Post by **meena** » 30 Aug 2006, 11:18

But it is very difficult to download at a stretch. It tooks 12 hours do download. Is it possible for you to load in some other service.

murralidharan

pinkchry (thanku), who volunteered, and reuploaded the files u requested. And u asking him to RE-REupload 'huge file' again???
FYI to u/l a file takes longer time than to d/l

u have been requesting HHJW kritis clips on his forum, and it has been u/l

We would now hope to see u discuss/take part on this forum

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 30 Aug 2006, 13:51

Note that RC has posted the picture of siddhivinAyaka on the iconography thread

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 30 Aug 2006, 13:54

Now posting paripAhimAm sadA in SuddhadhanyAsi, misra jhampe tALa; 89th and the penultimate kRti that is left with me!!! The singers are R.K.PadmanAbha & D.V.Nagaraja

http://quickdump.com/files/1378679791.html

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 30 Aug 2006, 17:52

mAtu of ||paripAhimAm sadA||

rAga: SuddhadhanyAsi; miSra jhampE tALa

paripAhimAm sadA paradEvatE |
parama SrIvidyE namOstutE paramAnandabharitE ||P||

paraSiva sahitE vArijanibhapada SObhitE |
paratattva pratipAditE SuddhadhanyAsi rAga tOShitE ||AP||

akArAdi kShakArAnta varNa svarUpiNi |
akAmakarma santOShiNi ahinibhavENi |
EkAnta manOlayakari SrIpati sOdari |
EkAmranAthESvara priyakari jagadISvari ||
agaNita mahima prakASitE aghajAla haraNa vikhyAtE agastyAdi sakala muninutE ||C||

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 30 Aug 2006, 18:03

Notes on ||paripAhimAm sadA||

rAga: SuddhadhanyAsi; miSra jhampE tALa

paripAhimAm- protect me; sadA- always; paradEvatE;
parama- excellent/best; SrIvidyE; namOstutE- salutations to You;
paramAnandabharitE- You Who are filled with bliss.

paraSiva sahitE- Consort of ISvara;
vArijanibhapada SObhitE- You Who are beautiful with lotus-like feet;
paratattva pratipAditE- You Who are expounded by principles dealing with the paravastu;
SuddhadhanyAsi rAga tOShitE- You Who are pleased by the SuddhadhanyAsi rAga;

akArAdi kShakArAnta varNa svarUpiNi- You Who are in the form of all the letters of the alphabet;
akAmakarma santOShiNi- You Who are appeased by acyions done without expectation of fruits/results;
ahinibhavENi- You Whose braids resemble the snake;
EkAnta manOlayakari- You Who cause the mind to become one with the parabrahma; SrIpati sOdari- sister of viShNu;
EkAmranAthESvara priyakari- Beloved of EkAmranAtha;
jagadISvari- The mistress of the universe;
agaNita mahima prakASitE- You Who display innumerable daring exploits/exceptional qualities;
aghajAla haraNa vikhyAtE- You Who are famed for the removal of sins;
agastyAdi sakala muninutE- You Who are praised by all sages such as agastya.

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 30 Aug 2006, 18:53

May we have some SuddhadhanyAsi recordings?

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 31 Aug 2006, 00:35

SuddhadhanyAsi is a ubhaya auDava janya of the 20th mELa. Its scale is

SG2M1PN2S* | S*NPMGS ||

A beautiful rAga that is one of the mUrchanes of mOhana. gAndhAra is oscillated. G and N are consonant notes and they are the jIva swaras and nyAsas. M also acts as a nyAsa. The rAga gives rise to dainya and karune. Just to reiterate a point I have mentioned earlier, this is NOT the same as udayaravicandrike rAga.

In this kRti too, oDeyar has followed prAsa to a degree. We have dIkShitar's subrahmaNyEna and tyAgarAja's enta nErcina and countelss others from the post-trinity composers.

meena · Post by **meena** » 31 Aug 2006, 02:04

enta nErcina -sree T's:

By sree TKR
http://rapidshare.de/files/31362978/ENT ... I.mp3.html

BY sree ARI
http://rapidshare.de/files/31362166/Ent ... I.mp3.html

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 31 Aug 2006, 03:51

Tomorrow I will be posting and discussing the last kRti.

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 31 Aug 2006, 06:01

KJY has sung oDeyar's kRti in a kannaDa movie - SrI cAmuNDESvari dEvi in rAga kannaDa. The movie is "mahA eDabiDangi". Didnt know this before. Thos ewho missed the earlier upload can savour it now.

http://www.musicindiaonline.com/p/x/VJ2 ... As1NMvHdW/

cmlover · Post by **cmlover** » 31 Aug 2006, 07:05

coolkarni · Post by **coolkarni** » 31 Aug 2006, 09:47

May we have some SuddhadhanyAsi recordings?

+

DRS
Here is a huge RTP
by MLV
http://rapidshare.de/files/31389817/rtp ... part_1.mp3
http://rapidshare.de/files/31393457/rtp ... part_2.mp3

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 31 Aug 2006, 13:48

kRti no 90. vandE jagadambikE in vasantabhairavi- khaNDa jhampe

Click here to download vandE jagadambikE- vasanta bhairavi- khaNDa jhampe- oDeyaru.wma

(Changed link)

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 31 Aug 2006, 18:24

mAtu of ||vandE jagadambikE||

rAga: vasantabhairavi ; khaNDa jhampe tALa

vandE jagadambikE SivE ||P||

vimalAtmikE hamsagamanE lalanE |
parvatAtmajE sampatpradE samsargE dum durgE ||AP||

ayana samvatsara mAsa pUjitE |
amarESanuti hitE paradEvatE |
anyAdRSa karuNAnidhIti sukhyAtE |
aruNAcalESvara dayitE mahitE ||
AryasamskRti mUlabhUtE ajAta guruvara sampUjitE |
AyurArOgyaiSvaryapradE Adi SrI mahAvidyE ||C||

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 31 Aug 2006, 18:38

For discussion on the rAga vasantabhairavi, please see here.

http://rasikas.org/forums/viewtopic.php?id=255&p=4

coolkarni · Post by **coolkarni** » 31 Aug 2006, 22:14

Squeezing in two more renderings in Shudha Dhanyasi

First one Chikkavane Ivanu by TRS
some great flourishes in the second half-mesmerising !!!
http://rapidshare.de/files/31440552/05- ... anyasi.mp3
http://rapidshare.de/files/31444544/06- ... anyasi.mp3

Second one , a lovely AIR Rendering of Dhani by malini rajurkar

http://rapidshare.de/files/31449044/Dha ... jurkar.mp3