Jayachamaraja Odeyar (Mysore Maharajah) - Part I

Raja Chandra · Post by **Raja Chandra** » 25 Aug 2006, 22:07

drs,

regarding your question about " r.v.samUdAya and jaya saMgItha saMvardhana", this series was seven in all and was started in 1991 and ended in 1997 !

it was organised by one Mr. Madan Urs, a close relative of the Mysore royalty.

your friend vidvan srikAMtaM nAgEndra shAstri it apppears has given another exclusive recital of oDeyar's kRitis during the durga pooja & Rajyotsva celeberation at Ursu Association, Bangalore on 1-11-2000 !

Dr. Nandakumar is vidya upasaka himself and acquitted himself well in the world of carnatic music.

i will make a small note on both of them and vidvan. nanjundasvamy and upload shortly.

Raja Chandra · Post by **Raja Chandra** » 25 Aug 2006, 22:07

drs

if you are waiting for d/l from coolkarni, here is some help :

d/l

http://rapidshare.de/files/5370406/rks_ ... e.mp3.html

Raja Chandra · Post by **Raja Chandra** » 25 Aug 2006, 22:07

darshan,

it is wrong to call http://www.mysorepalace.org/ as the official website of mysore palace. It is a website by the state govt, who arae trying to acquire the palace from the oDeyar's . You can see the acquistion act also prominently shown in the web site .They neither know the history nor the culture:

see my mail to the DC on 3-10-04:

I have just had a cursory look at your website.

These two mistakes are glaring and needs corrections:

It was under the reigns of Krishnaraja Wodeyar III [1799-1868] and his son Krishnaraja Wodeyar IV [1895- 1940], that the modern township of Mysore was created. It was also during the reign of Krishnaraja Wodeyar IV that the Mysore Palace was built, under the commission of his mother Maharani Kempananjammanni of Vanivilasa Sanndihana who served as Regent during his minority from 1895-1902. Chamaraja Wadiyar 's name (1881-1894) is missing. He was the builder of Modern Mysore and father of Indian Democracy. It was during his rule, Mysore Representative Assembly was started in 1881. Mysore abounds with many heritage buildings of his rule. Zoo, Devaraja Market, Landowns Bazaar, Dufferrin Tower, Maharaja College etc. He sponsored Swami Vivekananada's Trip to Chicago. Maharani Vani Vilas Sannidhana was his wife. Maharaja Krishnaraja wadiyar was his eldest son.
The hastily constructed palace soon fell into disrepair and in 1897 was razed to the ground by a fire at the wedding ceremony of princess Jayalakshammanni. It is blasphemous to call it as hastily built Palace.Neither was it in disrepair. A good portion of the old palace is extant and is part of the Maharaja's museum. Recently a portion known as Princess Indrakshi devi and Kamakshi Devi rooms which you have taken up fro restoration is part of the old palace. It is true a major portion of the Palace was burnt in fire during the wedding of Princess Jayalakshamammanni with her uncle Dewan Sir.M.Kantharaja Urs.( Manasa Gangiothri Mansion was built by them) It is said the Ganapathi Temple adjacent to Amba Vilas Durbar Hall survived the fire ! But this tragedy paved the way for building many well known extensions in Mysore and slowly the township inside the fort was shifted and the present Palace was built.

It would have been appropriate if the list of 25 Rulers was given.

Another mail on 5-10-04:

Following are additional comments:

Under <ATTRACTIONS>< Mysore Zoo> It is unfortunate the founder of the zoo i.e Maharaja Chamaraja Wadiyar's name is missing and what's more despite the Zoo being named after him as Chamarajendra Zoological Park, it just becomes Mysore Zoo !

Under <ATTRACTIONS><Jagan Mohan Art Gallery> In the first place it should have been just Jagan Mohan Palace not Art gallery. Again it is mentioned ---The Chamarajendra Art Gallery located at the Jagan Mohan Palace .... It should have been Sri Jaya Chamarajendra Art Gallery !
When one describes Jagan Mohan Palace from a historic point of view, it is necessary to highlight the some of the following a) It was built by Maharaja Krishnaraja Wadiyar III, thus it one of the oldest building in Mysore after Wellington lodge, Government House, Lokaranajan Mahal Palace. b) when the present Mysore Palace was being built, Jagan Mohan Palace was their official c) Maharaja Krishnaraja Wadiyar IV 's coronation and Marriage was also conducted d) Mysore University's convocation's were held here for many e) Mysore Representative assembly-first democratic institution of India - functioned from here. f)Temple Photographs of Mysore Palace leaves much to be desired and seems to highlight the pathetic state the Temples are being maintained by Muzrai department. This could have been more imaginatively done
The 360 degree view of Amba Vilas and Kalyan Mantap views should have highlighted the stained glass ceilings also.

360 degree views of summer palace, Daria Daulat (in immersive brochure) are wrongly captioned. In fact what is shown as Summer Palace is a view of Daria Daulat Baugh and what is shown as Daria Daulat is that Gunbaz Mausoleum.

unquote:

i did not even get an acknowledgement !!!

cmlover · Post by **cmlover** » 25 Aug 2006, 22:07

Thanks RC
for the wealth of historical details on the curse
and also for that
mesmerizing maaND

meena · Post by **meena** » 25 Aug 2006, 22:08

RC

thanku.

Is idol of Alamelamma -open for public viewing when one visits the palace? i do not recall seeing it on my last visit.

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 25 Aug 2006, 22:08

Raja Chandra
I was not waiting for Coolkarni to upload. I have the whole series. It is just that I was not well myself and also had an exam today. What a combination
Let me keep mAND aside for a while. First let us finish pratApavarALi.

I myself hail from koNanUru. When young even we thought we have seen the fish with the nosering (my sister, cousin and I) but I now wonder if it may have been a product of our wishful thinking and imagination. Some nostalgic memories have been awakened in me as well. We used to go evry year in a bullock cart as my grand-father conducted pUje and anna santarpaNe every year on akShaya tadige. It was a jAtre of sorts. He later formed a trust to continue the pUje and santarpaNe as my parents do not live there to continue this family tradition of ours. A book on rAmanAthapura says it was mummaDi kRShNarAja oDeyar who had this nosering put on the fish. Funny thing those fish. They have become very fastidious. When we were kids, they used to eat kaDalepuri(poRi) but now they will have none of it(adanna mUsiyU nODOlla). They only eat kaDalEkAi ( fried groundnuts).

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 25 Aug 2006, 22:08

pratApavarALi is a upAnga janya of harikAmbOdhi, the 28th mELa. Its scale is

SR2M1PD2PS* | S*DPMG3RS ||

In terms of scal it is close to both naTanARAyaNi and sAma but in terms of feel, it is very close to naTanArAyaNi (SRGSRMPDS* | SDPMGRS ||). I think SRJ xpressed the same opinion in the MA release cassette- Ekaika kRti rAgas(or something of that sort).
P and G and also M are important swaras. R is not given too much prominence nor is it shaken which s so typical of sAma. It is bhakti rasa pradhAna. The kRti of Detar`s is very pleasing.

Can someone post recordings of mahAgaNapatE(MD, naTanArAyaNi) and vinanAsakoni(tyAgarAja, pratApavarALI)?

meena · Post by **meena** » 25 Aug 2006, 22:08

DRS

Hope u get well soon

small correction, if i may- kaDalepuri is puffed rice.

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 25 Aug 2006, 22:08

mANd kRti as part of series.

http://rapidshare.de/files/5374258/Mand ... e.mp3.html

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 25 Aug 2006, 22:08

Thanks meena for wishing me speedy recovery.

As for the correction, where is the error in the first place?

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 25 Aug 2006, 22:09

sAhitya for
|| brahmANDavalayE ||

rAga: mAND ; AditALa

brahmANDa valayE mAyE |
brahmAdi vandita SivajAyE ||P||

brahmavidyAnandita hRdayE ||
brahmarShyAdyupAsita SrI vidyE brahmarandhra nilayE ||AP||

gautamArcita gAyatri gauri girirAjEndra putri ||
kAnta rAgiNi nArAyaNi kAruNya lalite manjuLavANi ||
antarmukha jyOtirmaya kalyANi ahi nibha vENi purANi |
anta rahita kaivalya vihAriNi gatinirjita kariNi gIrvANi ||C||

cmlover · Post by **cmlover** » 25 Aug 2006, 22:09

DRS

I thought you were taking a break in synchrony with coolkarni. But now it is clear you had his bug (through e-mail )! Get well soon!

This however is a welcome break to readup and digest some of the fasinating historicsl, geographical and even piscatory facts relating to the Odeyars

meena · Post by **meena** » 25 Aug 2006, 22:09

DRS

kaDalEkAi (fried groundnuts) this is ok, but kaDalepuri (poRi)
translate kadalepuri to eng- its puffed rice, isnt it not?

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 25 Aug 2006, 22:09

kaDalepuri is puffed rice which is called poRi in tamizh (what you get from street vendors and during Ayudha pUje). I have not said otherwise in my post.
Am I missing something here?

meena · Post by **meena** » 25 Aug 2006, 22:09

DRS
nevermind! NO error in ur post.

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 25 Aug 2006, 22:09

Meaning for
|| brahmANDavalayE ||

rAga: mAND ; AditALa

brahmANDa valayE- Her surrounded by/encircling the whole universe; mAyE- mAye which envelops the whole universe is Her;
brahmAdi vandita SivajAyE- Wife of Siva saluted by brahma et al;

brahma vidyAnandita hRdayE- Her Whose heart is pleased by brahmavidyA (the study in search of the parabrahma);
brahmarShyAdyupAsita SrI vidyE- Her worshipped by the brahma RShis and others; brahmarandhra nilayE- Her abiding in the brahma randhra/sahasrAra;

gautamArcita gAyatri- gAyatri woshipped by sage gautama; gauri; girirAjEndra putri- Daughter of the king of mountains;
kAnta rAgiNi- Her enamoured with Her husband;
kAnta is also a name of kRShNa and kArtikEya
nArAyaNi; kAruNya lalite- Her Who has compassion as Her charm; manjuLavANi- Her with a dulcet voice;
antarmukha jyOtirmaya kalyANi-That doer of good Who is ever facing inward and effulgence; ahi nibha vENi- Her Whose braids are like a snake; purANi- Her Who is ancient and senior to Everyone and everything;
anta rahita kaivalya vihAriNi- She Who dallies playfully in eternal salvation;
If the sAhitya is split as "antara hita kaivalya vihAriNi", then the meaning will be "Her Who dallies in salvation that is salutary/beneficial to the soul" gati nirjita kariNi- Her Whose gait is one up on the gait of a cow-elephant; gIrvANi.

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 25 Aug 2006, 22:10

DRS
nevermind! NO error in ur post.

THANKS

cmlover · Post by **cmlover** » 25 Aug 2006, 22:45

I may also add
antar(internal) +ahita (enemy))+ kaivalya (individuality or egoism)+vihAriNi (you, the one who plays with)

abadri · Post by **abadri** » 25 Aug 2006, 22:48

Can someone post recordings of mahAgaNapatE(MD, naTanArAyaNi) and vinanAsakoni(tyAgarAja, pratApavarALI)?

Chittoor Subramania Pillai singing MD's mahAgaNapate
http://rapidshare.de/files/5378584/01_M ... RAYANI.wma

MDR-LGJ-VR-VN performing vinanAsakoni
http://rapidshare.de/files/5378620/08_V ... varALi.wma

cmlover · Post by **cmlover** » 25 Aug 2006, 22:59

brahmANDa valayE
brahmANDa valayaH yasyA sA brahmANDavalayA i.e., one for whom the universe is a bracelet.

darshan · Post by **darshan** » 25 Aug 2006, 23:00

Raja Chandra, sorry for the delayed replies. First of all, I have to profusely thank you for referring that royalsplendorofmysore website. It has some wonderful private videos, which can never be seen otherwise. Even though these days may be considered only as a shadow of Mysore's royal glory, these videos do justice to an extent. As a person whose great-grandfather was a dewan in the court of HH Nalvadi Krishnaraja Wodeyar, these videos remind me of my grandparents extolling the glory of the kingdom.

Also, as you say, the website on Mysore palace is promoted by the State Govt with disgusting maintenance of both the website and the Palace.

Only about three months ago, did I have a chance to visit the palace. I remember having seen the paintings of Bhuvaneshwari, Rajarajeshwari, Lalitha Maha Tripurasundari, Gayathri Devi, etc, in the Durbar Hall and these I recollect when I come across the various compositions of HH here.

Meena, as you might know, most of the palace's treasures are kept in display only during the Dasara (Navarathri) period. It is only during this period that the famed golden throne can be seen too. If you pay a visit during this time and also one during ordinary times, one can makeout how very little is actually displayed during the non-Dasara period.

My father has told me that during the times when HH was the Governor of the erstwhile Madras State, every Thursday afternoon, he used to leave by a private train to Bangalore and reach Mysore in time to attend the Friday puja at both the palace and Chamundeshwari temple.

If one visits the Chamundeshwari temple, lyrics of some of the krithis of HH have been put up all along the road.

cmlover · Post by **cmlover** » 25 Aug 2006, 23:00

Badri

it will be a shame to let MaaND pass without a fitting HM counter part. Could you oblige or await the arrival of chief? Now that DRS is taking a well deserved respite....

cmlover · Post by **cmlover** » 25 Aug 2006, 23:00

Meena

Could you find for us a fitting picture of HH Wodeyar in full Royal panoply?

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 25 Aug 2006, 23:01

I may also add
antar(internal) +ahita (enemy))+ kaivalya (individuality or egoism)+vihAriNi (you, the one who plays with)

kaivalya has the meaning of detachment, alofness, salvation, libertion and separateness. Can you give a reference for kaivalya having a meaning of egoism? I am aware that Apte`s gives "individuality" as one of the meanings but I do not in the least think it means ahamkAra. Individuality is probably used in the sense of aloofness/detachment here.

Raja Chandra · Post by **Raja Chandra** » 25 Aug 2006, 23:01

CML, Meena, Darshan,

thanks for down loading my note on the royal curse and sringEri. after drs's note, meena's web link and darshan's comments, my resolve to write a very comprehensive note with a very different treatment was not easy. Hope it was worth my time !

darshan,

very happy to know about your proud pedigree. indeed we are happy to have you among us. if I am not inquisitive can you name your illustrious grand father's name ?

cmlover · Post by **cmlover** » 25 Aug 2006, 23:01

DRS
kaivalyaM kEvalasya bhAvah (Shya~n) is the derivation of the term. The word 'kEvala' has the meaning of sole/mere/exclusive/absolute/...etc. As you know it has only a derogatory sense in Tamil (kannada?) but has neutral value in sanskrit (kALidaasa uses it both ways). Further the word kEvala itself is derived from the dhatu 'kEv sEvanE' (i.e to serve) and serving exclusively or solely self which is 'egoism' is an admissible meaning which fits the different parsing of the words here. Further it exemplifies devi's fight with mahiShaasura who was egoism personified!

cmlover · Post by **cmlover** » 25 Aug 2006, 23:02

darshan
I too am amazed at your pedigree knowing well you are the great grand son of the renowned vaidIka shirOnmaNi sri vatsa sOmadEva sharma! Pl continue to participate inour discussions.

Raja Chandra · Post by **Raja Chandra** » 25 Aug 2006, 23:02

meena,

nice to know you have been to this part of the country !

I myself has not seen Mysore palace for a long time !

but I can tell you with certainty that these temples, shown in the video clip are not in private domain. They are located well within the main Palace edifice and as such never been seen by a any one not connected with the inner circle of the palace . They are more like pooja rooms in your own house!. As for as I know this is the first time any one is having a glimpse of these things albeit in video format.

It is akin to the image of chamundeswari, which some time back I had d/l . I doubt if you can get that image anywhere. It was a painting by the Royal Painter Y.Naga Raju , who has also painted the paintings found the kalyan mantap at palace.

There is still another vignette which is still elusive to one and all. It is the divine visage of the famous Atma Vilas Ganapathi located very close to the Durbar Hall. When the old palace perished in a massive fire in 1897, miraculously this vignEshvara survived the devastating carnage !

It is said that this massive vinayaka is made out of around 450 sAlingrAma's sourced from around 300 pilgrimage centers ( punya kshEtra) ! It is never been seen even in print. As you can see in the video clip, SDNRW just before he enters the durbar hall, is missing (!) for a while as the practice is to pay obeisance to Atma Vilas ganapa before any event !

Raja Chandra · Post by **Raja Chandra** » 25 Aug 2006, 23:02

drs,

sorry if i am taking too much of the connoisseur’s time away by my interventions, but i cannot resist one question ? i was interested to know something about kNNAnUru for along time. suffice to pose a teaser for the day ! does the name karAcUri naMjarAjaiah and bArakki srInivasa rao ring a bell ? more of it tomorrow depending upon your response.

good night

darshan · Post by **darshan** » 25 Aug 2006, 23:03

RC, my great grandfather's name was EN Natesha Iyer. If you have been to Malleshwaram, Bangalore, you would have not missed the Mahaganapathi Temple that is on a small hillock. My great grandfather was the founder of this temple along with a person called Giri Gowda and also of The Malleshwaram Co-operative Bank.

CML, thanks for remembering Vengandoor Srivatsa Somadeva Sharma. He is my great grandfather on the paternal side, while the person mentioned above is on the maternal side.

Moreover, my pedigree is absolutely nil. Whatever I am is only due to the karuna kataksham of Shri Kamakshi Chandramoulishwara and Gurunatha.

CML, if you had visited Bangalore or Mysore around 70s or early 80s, you could have seen HH's picture in almost every place, buses, hotels, shops, houses, etc. This website has a fullsize picture of HH and his illustrious predecessors: http://www.4dw.net/royalark/India/mysore4.htm

RC, is Atma Vilasa Ganapathi the same that is seen in video 13, behind the puja mantapa?

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 25 Aug 2006, 23:03

Raja Chandra
karAcUri nanjarAjayya was a sEnApati of the oDeyar`s in koNanUru a few centuries back. I do not know about bArakki srInivAsa rAu.

By the way I am the great-grandson of SrI. B.Subba rAu (rAjaSilpi viSArada, rAjasEvAprasakta) who was the chief engineer in the construction of KRS dam. His name with all the birudus can be seen under the kAvEri statue (which he donated). My grandmother Smt. Lalitamma was an intimate playmate of HHJC oDeyar`s sisters.

Raja Chandra · Post by **Raja Chandra** » 25 Aug 2006, 23:03

Ho Ho !

what a galaxy of old mysoreans with a illustrious peidgree. nice to know indeed.

DRS,

disappointed - because my doubts continue to elude !

Happy ! at long lost i caught you without a authoritative answer !

i will perisist with more on this, may be you will find out from your mother.

d/l

http://rapidshare.de/files/5405508/rani ... i.pdf.html

for an account of JCRW by his surviving sister. it will alos give an idea about his upbringing.

CML,

d/l
http://rapidshare.de/files/5404788/Maha ... r.jpg.html

meena · Post by **meena** » 25 Aug 2006, 23:03

darshan
I was fortunate, thanks to my appa's 'connections'- i got to see 'the throne' and other private collections. (this was way back when i was in middle school, its a pity i do not remember much of that visit to mysore).

DRS
i am from b'lore-malleswaram.

Though my mother tongue is telugu, at home we speak only kannada at home. (i can read kannda/telugu a little, but by the time i finish reading a line, the book will be out of print hee hee) I have visited mysore many times. But to the palace only few times.

cml
Thanks to RC/darshan made my job easy

They have perfect pic of HH wodeyar.

cmlover · Post by **cmlover** » 25 Aug 2006, 23:04

As a non-Mysorean, even non-Indian (one born in Rangoon to a diplomat) and a plebian my respects to all your illustrious ancestors!

Thanks for those magnificent pictures of the Royalty. I am simply touched by that concluding terse statement of HH Wodeyar:

It is my humble offering to the Devi

kaivalya rahita tathApi kaivalya prApta (if only DRS will permit me

abadri · Post by **abadri** » 25 Aug 2006, 23:04

Badri

it will be a shame to let MaaND pass without a fitting HM counter part. Could you oblige or await the arrival of chief? Now that DRS is taking a well deserved respite....

CMLsir, sorry still busy at work. Can't find any HM Maand on my
disk here at the office. I say, let's wait for the boss!

Thanks
-Badri

coolkarni · Post by **coolkarni** » 25 Aug 2006, 23:04

Here are the Mond stuff

: http://rapidshare.de/files/5420928/01-J ... d.mp3.html
: http://rapidshare.de/files/5421117/Palu ... m.mp3.html
: http://rapidshare.de/files/5421285/MISR ... H.mp3.html

DRS
One of my relatives- a mysorean- was mentioning about his association ,several years ago-with the reprint of a book called Sree Tathwa niDhi - Remembers that it had lots of paintings as well.He does not know more about the book because he was only involved to the extent of getting access to Wodeyars libraries etc and that sort of work.
Yourself or Raja Chandra must be having this book.
I thought i should let you know , just in case.
My relative has promised me to get a copy of that book

coolkarni · Post by **coolkarni** » 25 Aug 2006, 23:04

i got one pratapavarali in HM as well

http://rapidshare.de/files/5421404/rasi ... i.mp3.html

cmlover · Post by **cmlover** » 25 Aug 2006, 23:05

Welcome back!

We missed you!

cmlover · Post by **cmlover** » 25 Aug 2006, 23:05

Badri
It was worth the wait!
Vilayath khan's really lulling me to sleep!
But the Janaki manOharam (Nedanuri?) of vasudevacaar (was it originally maaND? ( question to Lakshman if he is watching and lyrics too please!). I am sure one of you (shankar?) have the santhaanam version too which I have heard!

meena · Post by **meena** » 25 Aug 2006, 23:05

Kji
sri-tattva-nidhi -encyclopaedic work by H.H. Maharaja Shri Sir Mummadi Krishnaraja Wodeyar III Bahadur.
RC did u/l in this thread -gundukriya raga.

i'm posting few that RC has shared with me so far-

http://rapidshare.de/files/4082868/krwI ... a.pdf.html
http://rapidshare.de/files/5422268/shad ... 2.doc.html
http://rapidshare.de/files/5422200/shdj ... 1.doc.html

RC/DRS
could u pl. start a new thread and discuss this monumental work with us.

coolkarni · Post by **coolkarni** » 25 Aug 2006, 23:05

janaki manoharm is by TRS.
I am also feeling fine to get back to the forum-

coolkarni · Post by **coolkarni** » 25 Aug 2006, 23:06

meena thanks for the info.

meena · Post by **meena** » 25 Aug 2006, 23:06

another excellent site - Mysore Collections:

http://www.kamat.com/kalranga/mysore/

meena · Post by **meena** » 25 Aug 2006, 23:06

cml
jAnakI manOharam. rAgA: mAND. Adi tALA.

P: janaka manOharam bhajEham bhAnu vamsha vanaja bhAskaram
A: dIna lOka pAlana caturam maunivarya mAnasa vihAram
C: pAsamAna varacara cApadharam vAsavAdi vibudhAvana varam
bhUsurAdi sukhadam parAtparam vAsudEva mAnatArtti haram

cmlover · Post by **cmlover** » 25 Aug 2006, 23:06

Thanks very much meena!

kartik · Post by **kartik** » 25 Aug 2006, 23:06

Coolkarni,
Still crippled by the absence of broadband at my end.The best Mand I have heard is by Shobha Gurtu - 'Akhiyan Daro Ji gulal Nandlaal'.I am sure you will have it in your collection.Can you upload this?I think it was released by T-Series once.
Doordarshan did telecast an old B/W recording of the same when she passes away and it was when she was quite young and it was simply mesmerizing.Too bad I could not capture it in my TV tuner card

coolkarni · Post by **coolkarni** » 25 Aug 2006, 23:07

DRS
sridhar has sent this message,since he was held up with work at office.

http://rapidshare.de/files/5388938/Misc.zip

contains

the following compositions in kAshIrAmakriya

ucchiSTa gaNapatau bhaktiM kRtvA - BMK
mArgasahAyEshvaraM bhajEhaM - TMT
vIshAlAkSIM vishvEshIM - DKJ
shrI sundara rAjaM bhajEhaM - Vijay Shiva
sEnApatE pAlayamAM - OST

and also kShitijAramaNam in dEvagAndhAri by Vedavalli mami.

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 25 Aug 2006, 23:07

Coolkarni
I received Sridhar`s email. Thanks.

Meena
Iam very much aware that you live in Bangalore

CML
"jAnakI manOharam" by MV is and was in mAND.(upAnga). It does not have M2 or any other foreign swaras. There is a recording on musicindiaonline website by Vijayalakshmi Subramaniam where she has happily altered the dhAtu to suit her whims(M2 and all). That is not how the original versiion is. I will shortly post the kRti as rendered by Mani Krishnaswamy.

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 25 Aug 2006, 23:07

mAND is a janya of dhIra SankarAbharaNa, the 29th mELa. It is dESIya borrowing from hindUstAni music. There are several versions and variations and miSramANds in circulation. oDeyar and MV have used the upAnga type. I think the scale can be represented thus;-

SG3M1PD2S* | S*N3D_PMGRSRGS ||

The raga sounds very much like kannaDa in places but is certainly lighter in quality than the latter. It gives SrngAra rasa. It creates a light and bright mood. oDeyar has beautifully woven the rAga mudre in the sAhitya.

Can someone post Lalgudi`s tillAna in mAND?

I shall next post oDeyar`s kRti in kannaDa. Coolkarni, you can add this to your collection and so can karthik.

And do get ready some elaborate renditions of kannaDa (Any RTPS???!!!)

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 25 Aug 2006, 23:07

jAnakI manOharam by Mani Krishnaswamy.

http://rapidshare.de/files/4962145/08-M ... d.mp3.html