Dr. Shrikaanth K Murthy

sumram99 · Post by **sumram99** » 25 May 2006, 20:23

Congrats Dr. Shrikanth and Sahana!

kaapi · Post by **kaapi** » 25 May 2006, 20:54

May God Almighty bless the child and the parents with health, prosperity, longevity and wisdom.

cmlover · Post by **cmlover** » 25 May 2006, 22:10

Here is my audio as requested!
http://rapidshare.de/files/21362007/DRSAudio.mp3.html

Raja Chandra · Post by **Raja Chandra** » 26 May 2006, 00:59

Lovely !

DRS, Smt. Sahana and grand Mother

bahaLa saMtosha,

May goddess Chamundeswari shower you all with her choicest benevolence and gifts.

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 27 May 2006, 20:20

Dear Friends
Thank you all for the lovely wishes.

venkatpv · Post by **venkatpv** » 28 May 2006, 03:11

congrats DRS and Sahana

rshankar · Post by **rshankar** » 30 May 2006, 23:43

DRS

Not to digress from the flow of storyline from you, just wanted to recollect the comedy of Hanuman mistaking mandOdari for sItA. Valmiki describes him as a common monkey at that point divested of logic for a while. According to other sources (AnandaramAyaNa?) mandOdari was more beautiful that sItA herself; nay more beautiful than bhuvanEshvari herself (I will not digress into that story). Accordingly the point is that Ravan did not abduct sItA for her physical beauty, but the the act was more out of vanity than passion!

maNDOdari was not only beautiful, and virtuous, but she was also a realized soul: she is one of a very select few in the rAmAyaNa (and one of 3 women) who realized that rAma was not a mere human prince, but was god incarnate. The other 2 women were tArA and sabarI, I think.

I think rAvaNA did abduct sItA out of passion: he even offers to supplant maNDOdarI and make her his paTTamahishI if she (sItA) would submit to him. But he had been cursed by (vEdavatI?) that if he forced himself on an unwilling woman, his head would burst into a thousand pieces - like all bullies, rAvaNA did not want to test the validity of the curse and chose to believe it!
Ravi

rshankar · Post by **rshankar** » 31 May 2006, 00:05

CML,
THIS is a digression, but since the forum appears to be so lifeless, I am indulging my fancies here...:cheesy:
Where in the purANAs or even in the rAmAyaNA is it mentioned that the cUDAmaNI was the symbol of marriage/married woman? What I have heard, and read is that in the vEdic hindu marriage ceremony, the symbol of marriage is the 'saptapadI'...in AnDAl's dream, she visualizes 'yen kai paTTRi tI valam sheiyya kanA kanDEn tOzhi nAn', and from there she goes onto 'ammi midittal' - 'shemmai uDaya tiru kaiyAl tAL paTTri ammI midikka kanA kanDEN tOzhi nAn' - there is no 'tAli muDiyal' or 'cUDAmaNi cUTTudal'...It was not a prevalent practice and hence she did not describe it - I do not believe some of the recent explanations that it was too personal for her to describe the tying of the tAli.
What I have heard is that when the moslems invaded India and pillagged villages they captured, rape of women was inevitable, and some of these evil perpetrators were cursed by 'pativratA sumangalIs'...To avoid these curses and their aftermath, a custom was evolved whereby attacking hordes could easily identify a married woman and leave her alone...and the practice of wearing/tying the 'magalsUtra' or 'tAli' was instituted. I am told that this important part of the wedding ceremony just has a slOkam to sanctify it and not a mantram like the other parts....
'mAngalyam dantu nA dIna mama jIvana hEtu nA
kaNThE badnAmi subhagE, tvam jIva SaradaSatam'.

No one can summarize the purpose of the tAli more pithily than Kannadasan -
'melliDaiyAL kazhuttil uLLa tAli yenbadu
nimirndu varum Adavarai vilaga SOlvadu'!

Comments (from CML and others) welcome....
Ravi

cmlover · Post by **cmlover** » 31 May 2006, 01:09

Shankar

I agree that we should enliven our discussion on Ramayana. There are many versions and many interesting stories. And then there is the sociological aspect. Of course music threads all along. I was holding back on the disussions here so as not to distract DRS from his line of thought. Hence out of deference for him we should sacredly leave this thread for him to come and conclude. If you do not mind do start a thread in Bhakti or Language section wherein I and others can join. Or if you want I will be the opening batsman

What do others feel?
Cheers!

vasanthakokilam · Post by **vasanthakokilam** » 31 May 2006, 03:27

Go ahead Sehwag.. I mean CML!!

cmlover · Post by **cmlover** » 31 May 2006, 04:50

Done Goto
http://freepgs.com/carnatic/viewtopic.php?p=12924#12924

Suji Ram · Post by **Suji Ram** » 11 Jun 2006, 22:31

Here's my attempt at the whole Suladi on violin which I vAsified in D#

http://rapidshare.de/files/22739612/Ram ... 1.mp3.html

mnsriram · Post by **mnsriram** » 12 Jun 2006, 05:06

After seeing Suji Ram's post I gathered some courage and recorded the starting of the sUladi (only srI rAgam). I still need more practice (tALAs and bits in the asAvEri part) to attempt the complete sUladi in one single stretch.

http://rapidshare.de/files/22826881/rAm ... AShyam.wav

cmlover · Post by **cmlover** » 12 Jun 2006, 06:27

That is super folks:

I have just d/led and am listening..

This is the highest tribute that we can give to a vaggeyakaraka. I am sure once DRS returns he will educate us more with his compositions!

Again this is a lovely way of welcoming the New Born.. with your mangala vAdya..

mnsriram · Post by **mnsriram** » 28 Jun 2006, 04:41

Dear DRS, do you have any of your own compositions on the Guru?

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 28 Jun 2006, 10:54

Dear DRS, do you have any of your own compositions on the Guru?

Yes there is. It is not in sanskrit though.

mnsriram · Post by **mnsriram** » 28 Jun 2006, 13:07

Could you please post the same?

mnsriram · Post by **mnsriram** » 29 Jun 2006, 05:16

Here is my attempt at rendering the complete sUladi. Unfortnately, I had to break in between and continue again a few times but I am posting this anyway for your comments. Obviously, more practise is needed. I know that this is not completely to tALa and I think the asAvEri part is a bit shaky.

It is already late and my voice tired to attempt again today but I will try again after some more practise.

http://rapidshare.de/files/24417214/rAm ... S--MNS.mp3

or

http://file.uploadr.com/7d3f

mnsriram · Post by **mnsriram** » 30 Jun 2006, 20:35

Dear DRS, sorry if you are disappointed with my attempt but I'd appreciate your feedback on this. This is my maiden attempt learning a rAgamAlika completely. I truly want to be able to sing this completely and correctly.

cmlover · Post by **cmlover** » 30 Jun 2006, 21:58

Thanks MNS
I simply love it! It has the elegance and melody comparable to concert rendering minus the accompaniments. I see some hesitations which is natural for a 'non sanketi' (I assume); but the flow of rags and svarams are very smooth.

Now await the 'technical' comments from DRS!

Congratulations!

mnsriram · Post by **mnsriram** » 02 Jul 2006, 05:09

Could someone re-post the "malahari gItam" and "mAtada bAradE - vasantabhairavi" compositions please? The download links seem to have expired.

cmlover · Post by **cmlover** » 03 Jul 2006, 10:34

Dear MNS
Here is
http://rapidshare.de/files/24792982/mal ... h.wma.html
http://rapidshare.de/files/24793122/mAt ... h.mp3.html

Please render it for our pleasure!

mnsriram · Post by **mnsriram** » 03 Jul 2006, 13:38

Thanks CML

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 06 Jul 2006, 01:53

Dear DRS, do you have any of your own compositions on the Guru?

Iam posting "gurukRpa illAde" in kharaharapriya, Adi(2 kaLe). The somg is rendered by MY guru and mother.

http://rapidshare.de/files/25039331/gur ... y.mp3.html

Sriram. I will post comments on your suLAdi rendering later. But you have certainly not disappointed me!. Much to the contrary. The best thing is you got over your hesitation and posted your rendering. That is the most important quality of any serious learner- Giving up inhibitions! Well done.

Iwas loath to post a new kRti when the rAmAYaNa discussion was incomplete. But as you wanted to learn it by gurupUrNime, I posted it.

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 06 Jul 2006, 01:59

mAtu for gururkRpa illAde
rAga-kharaharapriya; AditALa(2 kaLe)

gurukRpa illAde guri SErakkAhandA |
gurutara vidyu kaivaSamAhandA ||P||

pheripherI vicAru teriyarhuDi colli |
paripUrNa manasaNNu kalpiyara nallI ||AP||

hariye tAnAnAlu hara dhanu moriyakku |
guruvindanugrahu vONumAcaNDO |
gurukRpa onDira SrIkAntanU sakhu |
guru padakamalamE parama pUjyamaNDO sat ||C||

mnsriram · Post by **mnsriram** » 06 Jul 2006, 04:02

Iam posting "gurukRpa illAde" in kharaharapriya, Adi(2 kaLe). The somg is rendered by MY guru and mother.

http://rapidshare.de/files/25039331/gur ... y.mp3.html

Thank you DRS. Heavy and tough composition and excellent rendition. For me this was like listening to the main item in a concert.

Sriram. I will post comments on your suLAdi rendering later. But you have certainly not disappointed me!. Much to the contrary. The best thing is you got over your hesitation and posted your rendering. That is the most important quality of any serious learner- Giving up inhibitions! Well done.

Thank you. Awaiting your comments.

Iwas loath to post a new kRti when the rAmAYaNa discussion was incomplete. But as you wanted to learn it by gurupUrNime, I posted it.

Thank you very very much. Kindly post the meaning as well. I am guessing this is in sankEti.

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 06 Jul 2006, 04:34

Meaning for gururkRpa illAde;rAga-kharaharapriya;

gurukRpa- guru's grace/compassion; illAde-without; guri- goal;
SErakku^ AhandA- Is it possible for one to reach?;
gurutara- lofty/complex; vidyu-science/study;
kaivaSu AhandA- Will it come within one's hand's reach.

pheripherI- great and complicated; vicAru- details/information;
teriyarhuDi- in such a manner as to be easily understood; colli- telling;
paripUrNa- complete; manasaNNu-from one's heart/fully willing;
kalpiyara- teaching; nallI- good.

hariye tAnAnAlu- even on being Lord viShNu Himself;
hara dhanu- Siva's bow; moriyakku- to break;
guruvinde anugrahu- guru's grace/blessing;
vONumAcu^ aNDO- was needed, was it not?;
gurukRpa- guru's grace; onDira- that alone being present;
SrIkAntanU- SrIkANta; sakhu-friend;
guru padakamalamE- guru's lotus feet;
parama pUjyu^ aNDO- most venerable, is it not?; sat- good.

kiransurya · Post by **kiransurya** » 06 Jul 2006, 13:30

Thank you DRS..

A very nice composition..

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 06 Jul 2006, 14:06

Suji Ram
I listened to your rendering of the suLAdi too. Nice. More later.

cmlover · Post by **cmlover** » 06 Jul 2006, 20:25

Welcome back DRS to the gaganam from p^Rithvi!

While Rama is still waiting to be crowned it was so nice of you to oblige MNS (and us) with an appropriate kriti for the gurupournima. It is again auspicious to have the kriti sung by your guru to whom you recently presented the precious guru dakShiNa by awarding the proud title of pitAmahI!

This time you have chosen the favourite raga of Thyagaraja (his own contribution) which flows so smooth like honey. First thanks to Padmini Amma for the elaborate aalaapana that embellishes the rendering. The composition is very simple and elegant and arthagarbhita.

The line
hariye tAnAnAlu hara dhanu moriyakku |
guruvindanugrahu vONumAcaNDO |

ties in nicely with our Ramayana theme. Though vashiShTa was the raja guru, vishvAmitra was the actual guru for rama and lakShmana. The suggestion that Rama was able break shiva's bow only through gurukripa is a fine poetic imagination. (Remember we discussed how sita was praying to gowri (Tulsi ramAyaNa)to give Rama the shakti to bend the bow...). While I concluded 'guru khalu shivam pratyakShaM' you identified guru with the 'shakti' which provokes me to rewrite AcArya as
'guru prasAda yuktO yadi bhavati shaktaH prabhavitum
na cEt Evam rAmO na khalu kushalaH spanditumapi|'
Musically the two kaLai rendering goes so nicely with the theme and the raga blends melodiously with the easy pace. Pl highlight any subtle points that I may have missed.

I have difficulty getting the purport behind
'gurukRpa onDira SrIkAntanU sakhu | ' (are you exclaiming 'O friend! guru's blessing is enough for shrIkanta?'

Incidentally there are quite a few here who consider you to be our cyber guru and are eagerly awaiting your compositions and especially the superb 'lecdems'. Pl don't feel pressured and maintain your pace.

Again a BIG WELCOME and THANK YOU GURU SWAMI!

kiransurya · Post by **kiransurya** » 06 Jul 2006, 21:49

CML!!!
nice write up...

Suji Ram · Post by **Suji Ram** » 07 Jul 2006, 01:37

DrS,
A grand composition in a grand rAga! And a grand rendition.
Kharaharapriya is a tough one. I always shy way from it.

Thankyou for listening to my suLadi attempt. We learners are encouraged with your reply. Learning it on violin wasn't easy for me. As I proceeded each one felt tougher than the other. But finally I pulled it off. I polished it further and sent it to my Mom. She called me to say that she was quite surprised that I learnt anything like that.
Thanks again and Welcome back!

mnsriram · Post by **mnsriram** » 07 Jul 2006, 03:42

kamalAmbikayA kaTakShitOham -- dES -- Adi -- Dr. Srikaanth K Murthy

http://rapidshare.de/files/25139895/kam ... S--MNS.mp3

I could have done better but this is all I could get today

. Any corrections/feedback most welcome.

cmlover · Post by **cmlover** » 07 Jul 2006, 04:39

Bravo MNS!
very melodious rendering of this majestic sahityam one of the earliest that he presented at this Forum. I am enchanted by your voice and poise. dES is such a beautiful raga and I wish there are more compositions in CM in it rather than handling it in ragamakai as a minor sideline. I am sure DRS will give you subtle pointers but as a Rasika let me just congratulate you.

DRS

It will be very nice if more of your compositions are rendered and I wonder whether they should be done in a separate thread without interrupting the flow of thought in this one devoted to discussions relating to your own. The folks rendering these deserve feedback and appreciation from you as well from us Pl let us know! Thanks.
We do learn from your objective critiquing as you resume the role of 'music critic' once again

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 10 Jul 2006, 22:19

I have difficulty getting the purport behind
'gurukRpa onDira SrIkAntanU sakhu | ' (are you exclaiming 'O friend! guru's blessing is enough for shrIkanta?'

"If there be guru's grace on one, SrIkAnta himself is a friend of such a blessed one".

I will leave the various interpretations of "SrIkAnta" to rasikas.

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 10 Jul 2006, 22:30

Running meaning of "gururkRpa illAde"

Is it possible to reach one's goal without the grace of ones guru?
Will complex and great sciences and arts ever be within ones reach without this grace?

Without the grace of that guru who teaches in a simple manner full-heartedly, all those big and lofty details, can one reach ones goal?

Even on being Lord viShNu himself, to break the bow of Siva and win sItA's hand, was it not necessary for rAma to have his gurur's grace? If ther be guru's grace, SrIkAnta himself is a friend of such a blessed one. guru's lotus feet is most worthy of worship. Without such a guru's grace, is it even thinkable to reach ones goal! nay, impossible.

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 11 Jul 2006, 00:34

kamalAmbikayA kaTakShitOham -- dES -- Adi -- Dr. Srikaanth K Murthy----

I could have done better but this is all I could get today . Any corrections/feedback most welcome.

Very good job Sriram- beautifully rendered. Good pace. The rAgabhAva of dES is amply evident throughout. Some places, you have nt adhered to original notation- nayaghana dESI "SI" should be on N3 while you have halted on ShaDja. "akhaNDa" should be brisker and bring out the meaning of "akhaNDa" by quickly climbing to RShabha in the tAra sthAyi. ANd in karuNArasasAgarayA "garayA' should fall on "G2RS" and not on G3.
Well done. Keep it up.

mnsriram · Post by **mnsriram** » 11 Jul 2006, 05:29

Thanks DRS.

While I am not sure I understand the technical points that you have mentioned

(wish I understood notation/the notes of the rAgAs), I think I know what you are talking about

. I will post another attempt later this week.

rshankar · Post by **rshankar** » 11 Jul 2006, 08:36

DRS,
The latest composition was sweet, and I appreciated the fact that your guru rendered it! What a lovely gesture!
I loved the AlApanai...please thank your mother/guru for letting you share this with us.
Ravi

mnsriram · Post by **mnsriram** » 11 Jul 2006, 20:09

shrI gurubhyO namaH||

I didn't think I'd manage to learn this composition before guru pourNima but the more I listened to this composition, the more I liked it and it slowly started registering in my mind. After about 20 failed attempts

to record this yesterday night, I gave up and couldn't get it right this morning either. I took a slightly longer lunch break from work today

and finally managed to record it. There is hesitation at times but with some more practise I can do better.

Please let me know any corrections/suggestions and I will try to post an improvised version later this week.

http://rapidshare.de/files/25541380/gur ... S--MNS.mp3

cmlover · Post by **cmlover** » 11 Jul 2006, 23:45

A great performance of a sanketi kriti by a non sanketi (am I right?). The sahitya enunciation is just excellent and the raga is impeccable. These of course are the comments from a saha rasika though you have to await the subtle points from the Guru svAmi himself!

The only problem I noticed was in fitting the taaLam at the end where the final word 'sat' seemed to cause you trouble. For the 2 kaLai without the notations it is difficult to control kaala pramaaNam without notations and rhythm accompaniment (DRS! incidentally may I put in my usual request for the notations which please oblige at your convenience!).

MNS! You have great potential if you want to turn professional!

vijayI bhava|

mnsriram · Post by **mnsriram** » 12 Jul 2006, 00:15

Thank you CML. Thanks for your time. My mother tongue is telugu.

After I get comments from DRS, I will post a corrected version later this week. I personally found the composition very rich and this being my first one in kharaharapriya, thoroughly enjoyed it.

Suji Ram · Post by **Suji Ram** » 12 Jul 2006, 00:32

Excellent MNS,
You learnt it so fast! Congrats.

The more I listen I am tempted too- to learn on violin, but I will need notations for reference.

DRS, when you have time please post the notations

mnsriram · Post by **mnsriram** » 12 Jul 2006, 03:37

Thanks Suji

padmini · Post by **padmini** » 18 Jul 2006, 22:42

congrats MNS. you have rendered the krithi in kharaharapriya excellently. it is really amazingthat u have sung the krithi even without notation, that too within three days! really well done. only in a couple of sangathis u have sung differently. but it is ok. raga is intact . keep it up.

mnsriram · Post by **mnsriram** » 18 Jul 2006, 23:45

Dear Smt. Padmini gAru, thank you very very much for your time and your comments. After the previous post I practised some more and I think I now can sing the right sangatIs. Will post it this week.

Regards,
srIrAm

mnsriram · Post by **mnsriram** » 02 Sep 2006, 07:00

drshrikaanth wrote:
mnsriram wrote:Would you mind posting again please?
Not at all. Here we go.

http://rapidshare.de/files/31631038/dor ... kaanth.wma

Very very nice. Thanks for posting again. Found this on pages 15-17 of this thread. I think I have missed a few other compositions. Will check and request the missing ones.

Also, any plans of continuing with the rAmAyaNa discussions? Just checking as there has been a really long gap.

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 02 Sep 2006, 07:04

Will complete the suLAdi and yuddhakANDa discussions Sriram. Thanks for asking. Need to find original yuddhakANDa and traslation first

mnsriram · Post by **mnsriram** » 02 Sep 2006, 07:14

Thanks DRS. The last time I was very eager to learn the suLAdi and post it for your comments. With your help I will try to learn it better before this discussion ends.

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 02 Sep 2006, 15:55

Sriram
My reason for leaving the thread dormant for this long is two-fold. One is of course I was busy with my life. The second, reason is to give people to catch up by reading what is already written PLUS practise and post recordings of previously discussed kRtis. Its been a good few months since I stopped discussions and much much longer since we started. There cannot be too many excuses now

Only Suji and yourself have come up with some recordings(Now as well as earlier). That is very nice. So we will see if people come up with their recordings. If not, I will tie the loose ends for the time being and leave it there.