Carnatic Quick Crossword - 1

naarayanan · Post by **naarayanan** » 15 Jul 2009, 21:31

http://carnatiquiz.blogspot.com/2009/07/cq-46.html

Try this. mostly straight clues . do enjoy and u can leave ur comments here.

arunk · Post by **arunk** » 15 Jul 2009, 23:00

good attempt! (i have not got them all yet).

Arun

Suji Ram · Post by **Suji Ram** » 16 Jul 2009, 01:19

I got a few of them. This one is like the tough sunday edition The Hindu CWP

mohan · Post by **mohan** » 16 Jul 2009, 06:00

I wouldn't call this a quick crossword - many clues are cryptic!

rajeshnat · Post by **rajeshnat** » 16 Jul 2009, 08:27

naarayanan
There is already another one by Suji , need to have more time to solve ,next weekend by 25th and 26th is the best time for me to work on both. Till then please do not disclose the answers.

naarayanan · Post by **naarayanan** » 16 Jul 2009, 08:58

ok rajeshnat. no problem. have made some minor changes in the clues.

naarayanan · Post by **naarayanan** » 19 Jul 2009, 18:44

crossword friends, try this site c2w.com. it allows you to work on the crossword online itself with 'flash' support.

i have done a ilayaraja crossword with this site. take a look.

http://narayananswaminathan.blogspot.co ... sword.html

rajeshnat · Post by **rajeshnat** » 22 Jul 2009, 21:41

narayanan,
Solved all except 4. I am yet to solve :
1 Down (Is that to do with carnatic or is it just plain wcm which I am presuming as western classical music)
3 Down : a Divine swan sings this rAga, kind of narrowed but not sure .50-50 chance

11 Across: paid value added tax to a lass , kind of narrowed but not sure,25-75 chance
12 Across : beautiful voice of parrot sounds like a drink, I am appearing more like a drunkard here,this is tough . Both 11 and 12 across ends with the same alphabet,but that does not help me at all

The remaining 8 clues I am sure I got them right.

rajeshnat · Post by **rajeshnat** » 22 Jul 2009, 21:56

This is a tough one for sure:
How is RagamTalam,suji, arunk and all others doing here?

arunk · Post by **arunk** » 22 Jul 2009, 23:22

I haven't tried this since last time - but I got all except 12A, 2D and 3D. I feel like dharumi: "aaaaaaaaah!?!!! venDam vEnDam! enakku kELvi kEkkamaTTundAn teriyum"

Arun

Suji Ram · Post by **Suji Ram** » 22 Jul 2009, 23:41

After passing all the Crosswords with 100 % marks I bypassed this one.
Hiding in shame I guess

More or less stuck with the same ones as you folks.
Now that I have finished #6 I 'll give a try again.

naarayanan · Post by **naarayanan** » 23 Jul 2009, 08:37

hi all, i have mostly used charades and anagrams only.

1 down is carnatic. i think all the three of us have given this word!

suji, u r right. it is western classical music. a composer suitable for all four seasons

3 down, 12 across are sanskrit birds.

11 across:

I paid VAT. u wud have guessed. there r only few ragas ending with this suffix.

and take a look at the crossy one more time. i have adjusted the clues a little. like 11 across and 1 down.

11.i paid value added tax to a lass, and she sang this 'mela' (instead of raga. )

1. a wcm composer sounds dissonant, without life in the beginning.

Suji Ram · Post by **Suji Ram** » 23 Jul 2009, 08:44

naarayanan wrote: 1. a wcm composer sounds dissonant, without life in the beginning.

That was the first one I got ! But in a carnatic quiz?, anyway you said dissonance

rajeshnat · Post by **rajeshnat** » 23 Jul 2009, 09:41

naarayanan wrote:hi all, i have mostly used charades and anagrams only.

1 down is carnatic. i think all the three of us have given this word!

suji, u r right. it is western classical music. a composer suitable for all four seasons

3 down, 12 across are sanskrit birds.

For 1 down ,it just reminded a quiz competition about 20 years before when I was in school.There will be a western music round, every team (Four teams A B C D) will only like to guess and they would prefer to get this question as an indirect round of question (preferably 3rd or 4th team). I was about to guess the WCM wrongly from austria. But with four seasons clue, I am recollecting raymond suiting and then the answer.

I have taken a shot with 11 across too, kind of 75 % sure .

3 down and 12 across is still in progress. If I dont get it in another day, I will take cmlovers help as it is sanskrit birds

rajeshnat · Post by **rajeshnat** » 23 Jul 2009, 10:15

3 Down is something(MDR and KVN have mesmerized us with their rendition

) I got it just now, 12 across is only pending...

naarayanan · Post by **naarayanan** » 23 Jul 2009, 18:43

Suji Ram wrote:
naarayanan wrote: 1. a wcm composer sounds dissonant, without life in the beginning.
That was the first one I got ! But in a carnatic quiz?, anyway you said dissonance

hahaha. anything is ok as long as it helps to find the word, that is what charades are about, arent they?

rajeshnat · Post by **rajeshnat** » 23 Jul 2009, 19:08

12 Across : beautiful voice of parrot sounds like a drink in the beginning.

Naarayanan,

I am doing some loud thinking here.

# To me the first half of the clue "beautiful voice of parrot " is a full solar eclipse.No clue whatsoever there. :rolleyes:

# "Drink in the beginning", possibly with this as a beginning banged my head for almost few hours than identified a drink (is that drink a hindi drink with lemonade and salt), atleast I assumed that and mapped it to a rAgA. With it being 9 alphabets and ending with a sure vowel , I mapped it to one raga.

# By the way I am assuming that is a raga ,though your clue does not explicitly state that.

# No clue of sanskrit birds (cmlover do you know any sanskrit birds!!!)

. No experience in any form of bird watching whatsoever

IN SHORT 12 ACROSS IS INDEED KILLING ME.Possibly if arun and suji(dharumi and shivaji ha ha) have got it ,than I will pass this.

naarayanan · Post by **naarayanan** » 24 Jul 2009, 19:36

ok rajeshnat, i will reveal the answers.

12 A is keeravani. in sanskrit keera means parrot. so voice of a parrot is keeravani. and we have the delicious badham 'kheer'

other answers are here:

http://narayananswaminathan.blogspot.co ... ord-1.html

rajeshnat · Post by **rajeshnat** » 24 Jul 2009, 19:53

O gosh naarayanan ,
You have not collected my spam mail with answers , I got all excepting 12 Across. You can give the reasoning of all the clues.

9D: you have mentioned it as jenjoti , I think you should call it as jinjoti instead
7D: it is sallapam not sallabam

11A: hemavati is something I guessed after getting VAT (value added tax) and the lass you are referring is hema

1D: vivadi is right , I was initially thinking it as mozart with the four seasons clue , I went to raymond suiting then went to vivaldi then cut the l to get vivadi . This 1D I got it only with yours and suji's second helping.

rajeshnat · Post by **rajeshnat** » 24 Jul 2009, 19:56

12 Across needs a seperate post,

I was lining up saramathi, keeravani, maduvanti and kalavathi. My first choice till yesterday was kalavathi as kala is a drink with lemonade + pepper (it is a hindi drink) though not sure when will anyone order kala ,but today I wanted to shift the first choice to maduvanti as madu means drink in the beginning for sure

. No chance of me knowing keera as a parrot.

By the way the other parrot 3D is shakunthala right from which you get sahana

naarayanan · Post by **naarayanan** » 24 Jul 2009, 20:12

rajesh, cud u please tell me how to send a spam mail

. i see u online now. is there any arrangement @ rasikas to contact a person who is online?

i did check my gmail and yahoo and the spam folders.

ok, coming to the answers, yes i have explained the answers in the link.

jenjoti, jinjoti, jenjuti all are correct and in the grid also it does not affect any other clue.

shakuntala..........wow. a good guess. i will use it in the future anagrams. thanks.

arunk · Post by **arunk** » 24 Jul 2009, 20:14

There is zero chance of me getting kiravani or sahana.

Should have got morsing but didnt.

Arun

naarayanan · Post by **naarayanan** » 24 Jul 2009, 20:19

across:

5. AMBUJAM KRISHNA - straight clue
8. coffee - JAVA, with LI = JAVALI
10. I, jogged-RAN, january beginning-JAN, with KARAN = KARNARANJANI
11. I, value added tax-VAT,lass-HEMA = HEMAVATI, it was a little confusing i agree, it cud have been rupavati or senavati also. so, hemavati, rupavati and senavati all 3 are correct.
12. voice-VANI, parrot-KEERA = KEERAVANI

down:
1. wcm composer-VIVALDI ,without L (life's beginning)= VIVADI
2. croon-SING, more when trimmed is MOR = MORSING
3. A, divine swan - HANSA, = SAHANA
4. MADHYAMAVATI - straight clue
6. BHIMA, PLS = BHIMPLAS
7. SALLABAM - straight clue
9. SENJURUTI= JENJOTI or JINJOTI or JENJUTI

i had purposefully avoided anagram indicators, which would have made it very easy.

rajeshnat · Post by **rajeshnat** » 24 Jul 2009, 21:54

naarayanan wrote:rajesh, cud u please tell me how to send a spam mail . i see u online now. is there any arrangement @ rasikas to contact a person who is online?

i did check my gmail and yahoo and the spam folders.

ok, coming to the answers, yes i have explained the answers in the link.

jenjoti, jinjoti, jenjuti all are correct and in the grid also it does not affect any other clue.

shakuntala..........wow. a good guess. i will use it in the future anagrams. thanks.

when ever you send mails from rasikas site to any other forumites id, it goes into spam folder. Just clarifying that in case you did not know.
wrt jinjoti , I feel one usually puts jinjoti and not jenjoti and jenjuti. Similiarly one says sallapam or sallabham , not sallabam. This is my frame of reference(refer karnatik.com ) . Just clarifying what I thought was more right.

rajeshnat · Post by **rajeshnat** » 24 Jul 2009, 22:05

8 Across:coffee with Li sings this amorous composition

On this clue , I had no idea of the meaning of the word amorous, for atleast till day before , I was thinking of putting kapali (as usually we all say kAPi with coffee)instead of javali, then staring at some java code in work I thought about javali

. Did anyone else think for some time it was kapali

2 Down : Croon more trimly with jewish harp , I did not deduct the way you have put, I just recollected that morsing is in the family of jewish harp . Possibly I was lucky there

Suji Ram · Post by **Suji Ram** » 24 Jul 2009, 22:25

I did not get jenjoti . Thought Ranjani would fit but no explanation there. Can you explain jinjoti , I don't use cigar

and spelling is also wrong there. It should be jhinjoti.

Keeravani was my answer as I found vani to be voice. I was thinking of sukha for parrot but did not get keera as a parrot even after looking in online dictionary. So went by non-clue deduction.

BTW it should be kIravANi. We have been following this transliteration for a while in this forum. And sallapam

Hemavati was top of my list as it is more common raga than other vatis with 8 letter. but any lass would be fine too.

Guessed morsing like Rajesh.

The rest were easy.

naarayanan · Post by **naarayanan** » 24 Jul 2009, 23:27

rajesh, i also thought of giving the 'java link'. but it wud have been too obvious.

sallapam or sallabam both fits the grid. and it does not interefere with any other word. so,if you have hit the word, then its fine.

jhinjoti seems to be the mostly used spelling. and there are references to jenjoti and jinjoti as well. anyway if you have cracked red cigar, then it wud have been easy. i took the liberty of assuming that many of us here knew thamizh.

red -sen cigar- churutu, as in red-cross = sen-chiluvai

suji, someone had mentioned about symmetry in your crossword thread.

i have tried one 11 x 11 grid with symmetry.

friends, try this:

http://carnatiquiz.blogspot.com/2009/07/cq-47.html

Suji Ram · Post by **Suji Ram** » 25 Jul 2009, 01:10

naarayanan wrote: i took the liberty of assuming that many of us here knew thamizh.

red -sen cigar- churutu, as in red-cross = sen-chiluvai

I am one of those who doesn't know enough tamizh. No way I would have guessed this one.
Sivappu- yes that is red for me!

rajeshnat · Post by **rajeshnat** » 25 Jul 2009, 10:06

Suji Ram wrote: The rest were easy.

For me ambujam krishna , bhimplas and madhyamavati was only easy . Rest were quite tough to very difficult . Ofcourse that was just for me,suji scoring 100% always may have a different feel.

naarayanan wrote: red -sen cigar- churutu, as in red-cross = sen-chiluvai

With respect to ji(e)njoti, I took a guess as I was sure the raga should intersect with the J of karnaranjani and I of hemavati . I was thinking about shuruthu from cigar , just like suji I did not connect sen with red.