Egomaniacs of the Season

harimau · Post by **harimau** » 26 Dec 2008, 09:38

This is your time to nominate egomaniacs among Carnatic musicians to the Hall of Fame, Dec 2008 Roll.

Newly-minted Sangeetha Kalanidhis who insult accompanying artists (including those who have earned their Sangeetha Kalanidhi years earlier) and the audience by showing up late; musicians who violate the grammar of Carnatic Music to the dismay of purists and the delight of bathroom singers by drifting mindlessly from raga to raga in the name of graha bhedam or creativity; violinists who waste time by playing mindlessly long alapanas unrelated to the kalpana of the vocalist; mridanga vidwans who bang away to the discomfort of the audience but complain about the audience walking out while they are playing a "brilliant" tani avarthanam, etc., are all fair game.

Let us see how many oxen get gored!

cmlover · Post by **cmlover** » 26 Dec 2008, 10:15

Watch out for the language and do make sure no names are used or vidvans get insulted. A discussion of issues and principles is OK without hurting anybody's feelings!

Dhanavendra · Post by **Dhanavendra** » 26 Dec 2008, 10:28

i agree with you CM lover. Language is an important way to communicate. We should be more interested with the music right now rather than show flowery language that borders on contempt.

mridhangam · Post by **mridhangam** » 26 Dec 2008, 11:29

But to wat end this discussion ? what are you trying to arrive at ? There are a few artistes who come late .. there are a few violinists who take more time than the main artiste .. there are a few who really bang the instrument .. i agree ... Just take these three mantras :

Look (hear)

Ignore

Proceed (to where ur ideals are)

Instead of just wallowing in these kinds of threads .. hahahah

JB

Nick H · Post by **Nick H** » 26 Dec 2008, 12:12

Nominating with no names? How can that be?

I think that the examples given by Harimau all come under the heading of fair comment and review anyway; they are not matters, for example, of controversial off-stage (or even back-stage) behaviour.

I do not see any reason that, if an artist behaves in a way that is not approved of, it should not be mentioned here, but at the same time, I too lack enthusiasm for a "wallowing" (JB) thread! I also second the thought that feet are the best thing to vote with.

vasanthakokilam · Post by **vasanthakokilam** » 26 Dec 2008, 12:22

This kind of thread has some possibility to get out of control very quickly. So, just watch out for that. May be, reviewers have already called out/can call out such examples in the context of the concert reviews, as Nick suggests.

Harimau, you always seem to be in this mood of 'righteous indignation' on most matters we discuss here. CM world/this forum is not that bad a place after all..

But I do enjoy your sarcasm and cynicism if it is accompanied by only a small dosage of 'righteous indignation'

appu · Post by **appu** » 26 Dec 2008, 13:20

Banging away on the mridangam. I give an A + to Thiruvarur Vaidyanathan. If the nridangam could speak it would say "Please Stop".

rajumds · Post by **rajumds** » 26 Dec 2008, 14:27

Why not a poll on rasikas.org members. The list can be - best meaning less poster. best thread hijacker, best artist basher, best jAlra, etc.,

Nick H · Post by **Nick H** » 26 Dec 2008, 15:22

I'm going to hide for the next few days, then

ganesh_mourthy · Post by **ganesh_mourthy** » 28 Dec 2008, 09:19

I wonder, how this thread is still surviving!

mridhangam · Post by **mridhangam** » 28 Dec 2008, 11:24

Ganesh Sir
lack of interest is already evident ... after Nick's post on 26th December you hae posted on 28th shows the lack of interest by the general posting standards of Rasikas.org.

JB

rajumds · Post by **rajumds** » 28 Dec 2008, 14:19

lack of interest is already evident

That is exactly what I wanted when I made my post. We are all happy to critisise artists with pseudo names but never about ourselves. This thread deserves to die a premature death