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prashant
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Post by prashant »

It would be great to have some discussions on this refined and beautiful rAgA of our music. tyAgarAjA has composed some beautiful pieces: smaraNEsukhamu, viDajAladurA nA manavi, and the comparatively more introspective naDADina mATa set in a lovely gait in misra CApu. There is one SS krithi in this rAgA - interestingly MD has not handled it while he has composed two beautiful krithis in janaranjani's close cousin, pUrNaCandrika [where SS has not composed - too confusing :-)].

Another great krithi is of course the evergreen pAhimAm sri rAjarAjESwari of mahA vaidyanAtha Sivan which has a lovely CiTTa swaram and the rAgA mudra incorporated in the krithi. HMB's krithi on Lord Ganesha [ganapatE suguNanidhE] is nice and Sri TNS renders it frequently with a very interesting CiTTa swaram. Not too familiar with the output of more recent composers, but IIRC Sri MDR has composed a krithi [pAda yugamu?] in this.

Janaranani retains a distinct melodic individuality from pUrNaCandrikA due to the SDPM in the avarOhaNA as well as the PDPNS in the ArOhaNA. It also seems to lend itself a trifle more to slower tempo exploration as compared to pUrNaCandrika, nADADina mATa being a case in point. It also seems to have been explored more in terms of AlApanA in recent times; Sanjay renders it frequently and TMK has sung a nice RTP suite. While Semmangudi Iyerval used to render smaraNE sukhamu, I haven't heard an AlApanA. Somehow this would seem to be right up Ramnad Krishnan's alley - perhaps someone will show me the path? :-)

Some questions:

1. Have the composers who followed tyAgarAjA [pUCi, paTnam, walahjapET etc] handled this rAgA?
2. Are there 2-kaLai chaukam compositions in this?

A difficult rAgA requiring good creativity both in terms of ideas and 'cohesiveness' to pull together an AlApanA without being too repetitive; kind of a diamond in the rough, if I may. Would love to see more discussion on janaranjani.

coolkarni

Post by coolkarni »

kind of a diamond in the rough, if I may
Prashanth .. I am lobbing this diamond across .. hold it carefully..
It has been one of the most precious tracks with me , for decades.
Everytime i listen to this I visualise his huge palms working up and down the Veena.My God ! I used to be at the edge of my seat in his concerts!! So thrilling they used to be..
An unbelievable artist !!
balchander-Janaranjini.mp3
Enjoy !! You will love every minute of the 30 minutes !!

http://quickdump.com/files/1452921497.html

kaumaaram
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Post by kaumaaram »

A janaranjani piece from KV Ramanujam (flute):

http://www.sangeethapriya.org/~tvg/31.S ... 25-7-2006/

prashant
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Post by prashant »

Enjoy !! You will love every minute of the 30 minutes !!
Absolutely true Coolkarni Sir. A lovely AlApanA with extensive ideas, and a very nice and relaxed rendition of viDajAladurA which is usually treated in a much faster tempo as an opener or filler piece. Thanks for sharing this. Brilliant stuff.

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Post by shripathi_g »

A true diamond Coolkarni Sir. Coolkarni Sir is also a diamond for sharing his treasure with us. :-)

arasi
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Post by arasi »

Not a diamond in the rough but a sparkling one...

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Post by arasi »

speaking of Balachandar, as he gets to the kriti, he gets even better, the song gains a new stature and his swarams speak volumes!
SB--a one of a kind diamond...

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Post by arasi »

kaumaram,
Whose disciple is K.V.Ramanujam?

Suji Ram
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Post by Suji Ram »

kaumaaram wrote:A janaranjani piece from KV Ramanujam (flute):

http://www.sangeethapriya.org/~tvg/31.S ... 25-7-2006/
The kriti is viDajAladurA and not vadajalathura :lol: as mentioned in the site

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Post by shripathi_g »

Whoever wrote that might have been hungry. :-)

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Post by kaumaaram »

arasi wrote:kaumaram,
Whose disciple is K.V.Ramanujam?
I do not have any idea. But apparently, this artist is playing well.

Kaumaaram

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Post by drshrikaanth »

Prashant
Have a look at this page. There is a discussion not directly about janaranjani but about pUrNacandrike. It could help.

http://rasikas.org/forums/viewtopic.php?id=255&p=15

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Post by drshrikaanth »

A janaranjani kRti of oDeyar was also discussed in the old thread- kAmAkShi pAhimAm in rUpaka tALa. The thread is being resurrected and will come up soon. You may look it up to for a brief discussion on janaranjani.

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Post by drshrikaanth »

Here I have uploded the oDeyar kRti. A short, brisk and lilting kRti nicely rendered by
P.Rama & R.Chandrika

Click here to download kAmAkShi pAhimAm- janaranjani- rUpaka- oDeyar.mp3

prashant
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Post by prashant »

There is a discussion not directly about janaranjani but about pUrNacandrike. It could help.
Very useful indeed Dr. Shrikaanth. The pUrNacandrikA conundrum is one that has been puzzling me for a while, and your post was helpful. I also enjoyed your krithi, with a nice setup in khaNDa CApu - common krithis in pUrNaCandrikA are all in Adi or rUpakA so this was very refreshing.

The oDEyAr kriti is short and sweet and the CaraNa madhyamakAla has a very arresting and dramatic effect.

Coolkarni Sir: is there a recording of Nedunuri Garu singing a krithi or AlApanA?
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Suji Ram
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Post by Suji Ram »

Chembai has rendered Srita janaranjani in janaranajani . Any idea whose composition that is? Lyrics will be nice if someone could post.

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Post by Lakshman »

shritajana ranjani. rAgA: janaranjani. Adi tALA. Composer: Lalitadasar.

P: shritajana ranjani durita vibhanjani mAmava dEvi niranjani
A: cidambara vAsini mudam pada dEhimE madamba dayAnidhE shrI lalitAmbikE
C: shrIda karAmbujE amba cidAtmikE vEdanutA mala pAda sarOjE
nAdAlayAnanda rUpiNi shrIpati sOdari mayi dayAm guru hara mOhini

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Post by Suji Ram »

Thanks lakshman

coolkarni

Post by coolkarni »

prashanth
Tudikkai-Poornachandrika
http://quickdump.com/files/199276406.html

kalyanraman sings a vey short alapana .
For more I have to search

coolkarni

Post by coolkarni »

The pUrNacandrikA conundrum is one that has been puzzling me for a while
or AlApanA?
Prashanth
will a full length ragam thanam pallavi be useful ?let me know..
:P

coolkarni

Post by coolkarni »

you can try and guess the artist's name too.
Twenty years ago I had the privilege of having him visit my bachelors quarters and join Thanjavur Sankara Iyer for Dharwar Meals that My Mom would cook for them- there used to be some glorious music that was passed around too .Memorable evenings !!

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Post by gsn »

Kulkarniji-

RTP in Poornachandrika sounds tantalising, to say the least! Also, I have heard that LGJ once played a Janaranjani RTP at (I think) KGS sometime in the 70's. Any chance of getting that? : )

-G

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Post by Suji Ram »

There is a self composition of violinists Ganesh and Kumaresh in janaranjani which I heard in a concert.
It was interesting...very western style.

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Post by meena »

Twenty years ago I had the privilege of having him visit my bachelors quarters and join Thanjavur Sankara Iyer for Dharwar Meals that My Mom would cook for them- there used to be some glorious music that was passed around too .Memorable evenings
WOW! luncheon with TSI, that must have been something :)

can u pl. share ur memoirs with us kji.thanks

venkatpv
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Post by venkatpv »

coolkarni,
would that be Neyveli Santhanagopalan? :)

prashant
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Post by prashant »

Prashanth
will a full length ragam thanam pallavi be useful ?let me know..
Full length RTPs are useful, of course, Coolkarni Sir!!! I'd also have to agree with venkatpv - sounds like you are referring to Neyveli Sir :-)

coolkarni

Post by coolkarni »

venkat gets the prize ... ( a track of his choice - valid for a a week )
:P
now it is tme to listen !!
pure bliss.
http://quickdump.com/files/1123460962.html
http://quickdump.com/files/1784734825.html

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Post by venkatpv »

wowwww!!!! ok... here goes... an elaborate TRS kambojhi?? other than shri subramanyaya namaste!!! ;) hope thats not too much to ask for!! thank u so much...
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coolkarni

Post by coolkarni »

venkat ,
your gift is in the TRS thread.
elaborate yes , but he picks up real steam only at the neraval stage.
Anyway with this raga , it is the second half of renderings that always takes me soaring !!

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Vimala Bulusu
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Post by Vimala Bulusu »

I have uploaded

Sarahrudayulai_Janaranjani_sankeernatriputa_by_BVimala.wav

At

http://www.esnips.com/web/deviganasudha

Composer: Ogirala Veera raghava sarma
Rag:Janaranjani
Tal: Sankeernatriputa
Rendered by Smt B Vimala

B Vimala

hsuvarna
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Post by hsuvarna »

Please see the other forum on Sri Voleti Venkateswarlu in Vidushis and Vidwans. One rasika posted the mp3 for pahi rajeshwari in JanaRanjani.

Suji Ram
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Post by Suji Ram »

Vimala Bulusu wrote:I have uploaded

Sarahrudayulai_Janaranjani_sankeernatriputa_by_BVimala.wav

B Vimala
Vimala,
Very nice rendering of the kriti with alaapana.

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