MAHA GANESAM - THYAGARAJA- LYRICS,TRANSLATIION AND MORE INFORMATION

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RSR
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MAHA GANESAM - THYAGARAJA- LYRICS,TRANSLATIION AND MORE INFORMATION

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MahaGanesam - Thyagaraja Swami
Madurai Somu-Mahaganesam
-Raga-Bhavabharanam

Madurai Somu
https://youtu.be/7V339BUaEDc
upload by Raju Asokan
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A single kruthi ragam as per Sangeethapriya
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Not listed in Sri.V.Govindan's blog-site.
May I know why it has been left out? or am I missing it?
Scholar's help requested for information , Lyrics, translation , Ragam information, parent scale and nearest popuar ragam .
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Mahaganesam is not Thyagaraja kriti.

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I understand that this is a composition by Chittur Subramania Pillai.

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p-2 and p-3
Thank you Sirs. Very likely to be a composition by Chittur Subramanya Pillai. (Even Sangithapriya site errs? )
Surprising.
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@Lakshman
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Is it likely that this is still Thyagaraja Kruthi, preserved in Kanchipuram Naina Pillai school ? Was he disciple of Mysore Sadasiva Rao?
-- Can we check for mudra of Thyagaraja in the rendition?

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mahA gaNEsham shrI. rAgA: bhavabharaNa. Adi tALA.

P: mahA gaNEsham shrI gaNanAtham madhura gaNapatim manasA smarAmi

A: ahankAra *nAshaka* abhilASa pUraka ambara vyApakam abhirAmi nandanam

C: mahA caturti nivEdyam nava drOhi Eka bOdhakam

OmkAra rUpam shrIgaNa nAyakam Ekadantam praNava svarUpam

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Thank you Madam. The Sanskrit lyrics are simple and sweet. More like a slokam.
Not by Thyagaraja. but some rare rendition because of the ragam.
Thank you, once again.

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Thank you .

It needs some corrections.
Though a couple of typos have been set right,
caranam requires a couple more.

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RSR: My mistake. The song by Chittur Subr5amania Pillai is different.

mahA gaNEsham mahEshvara. rAgA: bhavabharaNam. Adi tALA.

P: mahA gaNEsham mahEshvara putram mandahAsa vadanam manasA smarAmi
A: mahAdEva sutam mahAnubhAvam mahAjana svarUpam mahima pratApam
C: mahAsatuki priyam mahasukhi dEvinam mallikA campaka sukrta dAyinam
mahA sundara rUpam mahA vihitEshvara mahA SODashi kumAram mAmava satatam
ake. The song by Chittur Subramania Pillai is a slightly different one.

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I have 8 different clips of Somu singing songs with the starting words maha ganesham. The ragas are gopikatilaka, bhavabharana, shuddhadhanyasi, dakshayani and omkaraposhini.
If any of you on rasikas.org can figure out the different songs and match them with the ragas it would be nice.
The song in the above post by Chittur Subramania Pillai is in shuddhadhanyasi.

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@Lakshman
JI,
Thank you. Somu was a long-time disciple of Chittoor Pillai. and Chittor Pillai likewise was a long-time disciple of Naina Pilai. I understand that Naina Pillai learned music from a scholar-musician at Walajapet ( not Venkataramana). Most likely, going by the Sanskrit , a composition by that Guru, mis-attributed to Thyagaraja Swami.
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