Places selected for Neraval in compositions ?

suma · Post by **suma** » 16 Nov 2008, 22:23

Yes, the choice of the line for Niravel mostly depends on the meaning of that line and how best bhavam can be applied like in Hirenmayeem, there is a line "Sangeetha Vadya Vinodine...." . The line can be anywhere in the song, but if it can bring out the beauty through bhavam (devotion) as percieved by the original composer, then that line can be used I guess.

gn.sn42 · Post by **gn.sn42** » 17 Nov 2008, 01:15

vijay wrote:the Vidushi has also broght out a CD on the subject which covers largely the same points. It is highly recommended for those not able to attend the LD in person.

Who is the publisher? Could you provide some details or a web link?

srikant1987 · Post by **srikant1987** » 17 Nov 2008, 15:26

mohan wrote:GNB also uses "sumathi thyagaraja" for neraval in nidhichala (kalyAni) instead of the usual mamathA bhandana. Both are from the charanam.

Also this mamatA-bandhanayuta line has a somewhat negative meaning, though that's the crux of the whole song, and shows the guts of Tyagaraja.

dadhi navanIta is also used for neraval.
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I think pallavi and anupallavi are not that commonly chosen because in most songs, there will usually be lots of sangatis for them, so why add neraval also?

knandago2001 · Post by **knandago2001** » 17 Nov 2008, 15:30

Ravi, Vijay and Bilahari: Thank you so much! Though she did not mention it, my guess is if the line chosen for niraval occurs mid-way through the compostion (say in the anupallavi) it would be convenient in the interests of time to improvise first and then continue on with the rest of the composition; MMI does this with "maanikkam vairam...." when singing Sivan's kaana kankodi vendum. Another example may be ARI's "vaasavaadi sakala deva vanditaaya..." while rendering Dikshitar's Sri Subramanyaya namaste. To be honest, I don't have a clear answer at the moment.

shripathi_g · Post by **shripathi_g** » 25 Dec 2008, 05:32

I've noticed that MDR takes up the pallavi lines of popular songs for RTPs - Subramanyaya Namasthe, Rama Nee Samanamevaru, Lokavanachathura but doesn't take the popular route for regular neravals - e.g. Drona Karna Duryodhanadhi hara for Balagopala, Satva Sree guru charanam in Manasu Guruguha, Varasitagiri Nilayuni in O Jagadamba, etc (can't remember others right now though I've noticed that the neraval line is different from the usual).

rbharath · Post by **rbharath** » 26 Dec 2008, 11:56

Sri TK Govinda Rao always takes up.. "drONa karNa duryOdanAdhi hara.. " for neraval.

bilahari · Post by **bilahari** » 26 Dec 2008, 13:34

Shripathi, MDR has also taken up O Rangasayee for pallavi and done an excellent job. The recording is on Sangeethapriya in a concert probably better known for the sublime Nannu Palimpa.

shripathi_g · Post by **shripathi_g** » 26 Dec 2008, 17:05

Oh ok. I've never progressed beyond Nannu Palimpa in that concert. The swara prastharas for that song are simply amazing. Will get to it now.

Btw, I heard S Kalyanaraman take up the Pallavi line for Adamodi Galade. Was a delightful rendition.