The Circus Travels - Next stop March 17th- 6 PM(Note change

coolkarni · Post by **coolkarni** » 19 Mar 2007, 07:25

Photos are trickling in.please keep checking this link.

http://coolkarni.badongo.com/gallery/8756/0

abadri can be seen (in a red shirt) next to Nick and rbharath.

mohan · Post by **mohan** » 19 Mar 2007, 08:01

coolkarni wrote:Photos are trickling in.please keep checking this link.

http://coolkarni.badongo.com/gallery/8756/0

I get a message saying this album is password-protected

coolkarni · Post by **coolkarni** » 19 Mar 2007, 08:14

password

GSMANI

please use capitals , or copy and paste.
sorry.still not used to this album mechanism.

mohan · Post by **mohan** » 19 Mar 2007, 08:31

Thanks - got to see the photos. Very nice to see the presence of senior musicians in the audience. I note you have used Kannan for the sound system. They do a great job - I used them for the kutcheri at my wedding!

cmlover · Post by **cmlover** » 19 Mar 2007, 08:50

Thanks
I thought it was mikeless concert!
Nice to see Neyveli geetting involved!
Do identify other folks!

coolkarni · Post by **coolkarni** » 19 Mar 2007, 09:56

photo no 6
The Old Gentleman is Mr PA Gopalkrishnan .He used to reside in Trichy , with his home right opposite the House of Ratnachalam Iyer (a philanthropist who hosted Concerts at home in the 30s-40s)
two unknown faces to us ( photo no2 person with yellow T shirt entering) and photo no 5 , sitting in front of badri ) are
Mr Chandran and Mr Satyamurthy- Long time fans of GS Mani

rbharath · Post by **rbharath** » 19 Mar 2007, 10:47

it was a nice evening. from the list by Rajesh, i knew almost none of the songs. just the varnam and the dikshitar kritis were familiar ones.

Ram and I had to leave when he began the sindhubhairavi slokam.

Nick H · Post by **Nick H** » 19 Mar 2007, 12:20

rshankar, thanks for the explanation. So it is mostly a matter of language?

Ram... If you email me your number it would be nice to meet for a cup of tea one day while we are still neighbours!

ninjathegreat · Post by **ninjathegreat** » 19 Mar 2007, 12:24

coolji, use picasaweb... it's awesome...

ninjathegreat · Post by **ninjathegreat** » 19 Mar 2007, 12:30

you are all having all the fun

... I'm going to try and attend the "carnatica brothers" concert in phoenix this thursday... How about some snippets? A lot of the compositions are new to me too...

coolkarni · Post by **coolkarni** » 19 Mar 2007, 12:39

ninja
you will get the full concert here - audio as well as video-
all the fun... dont forget to be here in the middle of the month-either may or july...
phoenix..please convey my warm regards to sashikiran.

ram · Post by **ram** » 19 Mar 2007, 13:17

Done Nick. Have mailed my contact number to you.

Coolji: Nick and I discovered we are neighbours just like Rajesh & Vijay did a couple of weeks back - all courtesy rasikas.org !!!!!

mridhangam · Post by **mridhangam** » 19 Mar 2007, 13:20

i missed it. Neyveli sir infact asked me to come to the function. But due to some other personal peroccupation i couldnt make it. Next time i will be there to meet you all friends at rasikas.
Thanks for the excellent service. Photos are excellent and Coolji can you upload more pics if you have pls
Tks
J.balaji

coolkarni · Post by **coolkarni** » 19 Mar 2007, 14:27

we will have lots of photos.shortly.

ram .. we can now breathe easily.Wont have to worrry about Nickslatet night returns,anymore.

Ananth · Post by **Ananth** » 19 Mar 2007, 14:58

coolkarni wrote:Ananth went missing (wonder what latest turbulence in Italian politics kept him away).

How did you know?! In fact I was away showing around Chennai to some Italian visitors, having forgotten the change of date and still thinking that the concert is on Sunday.
What a pity! Any way I eagerly await the uploads now...

Nick H · Post by **Nick H** » 19 Mar 2007, 15:34

Its ok... I've now pretty much sorted out which of the roads converging on Panagal Park goes where --- and which is my route home

No sign of the mail yet, Ram... I'll keep an eye open and let you know if it doesn't arrive.

Better still, I'll mail you my number: one direction or the other is bound to get through!

ram · Post by **ram** » 19 Mar 2007, 16:01

Nick: My email ID is [email protected]

I think the emails sent through the forum take some time to arrive.

Coolji: I think Nick knows Chennai roads better than I do. I almost took him on a site-seeing tour of Mambalam when returning back last time

MANNARGUDIYAAN · Post by **MANNARGUDIYAAN** » 19 Mar 2007, 19:18

eagerly awaiting upload..... thank you coolji...

vgvindan · Post by **vgvindan** » 19 Mar 2007, 19:46

In an otherwise a very enjoyable evening with GSM, there was a jarring note - I am referring to GSM's statement about brahman as 'sUnya'.
That a person who would sing saundarya lahari - kvaNat kAnci dAmA - so nicely to enable listeners behold the Mother in all her beauty, should describe that same 'AhO puruShikA' as 'sUnya' is not very convincing. Did he fumble in selection of words? Much would I like to forget these words, they ring in my ears discordantly.

arunk · Post by **arunk** » 19 Mar 2007, 20:38

vgv,

A google search on sunya and brahman (sunya brahman) returns many relevant hits. This concept of sunya with brahman (the nothing/void that is all) seems like a strand of Hindu philosophy.

Arun

vgvindan · Post by **vgvindan** » 19 Mar 2007, 20:53

arun,
sUnya vAda belongs to buddhism.
'brahman' is not 'nothingness' or 'void';
the triple designation of brahman is 'sat-cit-Ananda'. 'sat' is 'being' or 'existence' and not 'nothing' or 'void'.

arunk · Post by **arunk** » 19 Mar 2007, 21:07

vgv,

ok - i see that it does fit best with buddhist philosophy - this being the critical difference with Hindu philosophy.

But my point was it may not be a slip in choice of words.

Arun

cmlover · Post by **cmlover** » 19 Mar 2007, 21:32

vgv
In IshAvAsya if you replace 'pUrNaM with shUnyaM everything holds. In fact in mathematics infinity and zero map onto each other and both are indeterminate. In fact 'zero' as we know is the contribution of the Indian philosophers (not buddhists!). Again shUnya (as per indian philosophy is not 'nothing'. It is like the 'point' in geometry which exists but has no dimentions. The point generates the rest of the dimentions though it is of shUnya dimension. Hence don't be too hasty in condemning GSM; both of you are looking at the same thing. Just review the theory of 'Big Bang' and see how logical the shUnya concept is !

Further if you check the dictionary (Apte) for the meaning of shUnyaM, one of the meaning is Brahman!

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 19 Mar 2007, 21:55

From tiruvAymoZhi

uLan enil uLan avan uruvam ivvuruvugaL
uLan alan enil avan aruvam ivvaruvugaL
uLan ena ilan ena ivai guNam uDaimaiyil
uLan iru tagaimaiyoDu ozhivilan parandE || (1.9)

AmE ennin AmEyAm inRE ennin inREyAm | (kambarAmAyaNam. MSS has sung this)

Basically, the parabrahma cannot be defined by any word or language:- for once that can be classified or decsribed by a word, that beocmes bound by or limited to the meanings and connotaions of that word/definition. And that simply is not parabrahma anymore. So SUnya and pUrNa can both be taken to parabrahma. IMO that does not necessarily negate the existence of tat

Without any intentions of blasphemy "pUrNamadaH pUrNamidam pUrNAt pUrNamudacyatE-- "can equally be correct if one says "SUnyamadaH SUnyamidam SUnyAt SUnyamudacyatE----".

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 19 Mar 2007, 21:56

CML

You have said the same thing as I have

vgvindan · Post by **vgvindan** » 19 Mar 2007, 22:05

kaTha upaniSad - I - ii -
naiShA tarkENa matirApanEyA prOktanyEnaiva sujnAnAya prEShTha ||
yAm tvamApa: satyadhRtirbatAsi tvAdRGnO bhUyAnnacikEta: praShTA || 9 ||

"This wisdom that you have, O dearest one, which leads to sound knowledge when imparted only by someone else (other than logician), is not to be attained through argumentation. You are, O compassionable one, endowed with true resolution. May our questioner be like you, O nacikEtA." (Translation by Swami Gambhirananda)

I rest my case

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 19 Mar 2007, 22:31

Yes- if argument is what was started here, there is no need for it.
If we all had complete faith in our beliefs, we would have no need to ask questions; or for that matter be disturbed by what G.S.Mani or anyone says.

cmlover · Post by **cmlover** » 19 Mar 2007, 22:36

aNoraNIyAn mahatO mahIyAn
KaThopanishad II-20
immortalized in music by dAsA as well as by MS in her golden voice...

ksrimech · Post by **ksrimech** » 20 Mar 2007, 01:16

In the vyAkyAnAs for tiruvAymozhi, the authors state that "If somebody says I have understood who SrImannArAyaNan is, then he has not understood anything about who HE is & if somebody says I do not know anything about SrImannArAyaNan, then he has understood everything about who HE is". This is similar to "vAcAmagOcara mE manasa" of SrItyAgarAjar.

coolkarni · Post by **coolkarni** » 20 Mar 2007, 05:57

Ah !
But most of us in the Concert Hall were very much like me and all my classmates (in 7th standard) when we listened to Sivram Karanth delivering his concluding speech after our school debate (on Does God Exist or NOT) was over.
(we could could be swayed any way-depending on the speaker !)

On that day , many years ago, For 10 engrossing minutes,Sivram Karanth had spoken on why he thought God did not exist , and we all were sure that God indeed ,did not exist .

And for the next 10 minutes he spoke on why he thought God existed , and we were now convinced that this was as clear as daylight.Where was the doubt ?

Back home I was exasperated and asked my only other authoritative source then -My Dad - for the answer and he responded with a hearty laugh ..
Boy ! You have to just pick up a short stick, tie a spare set of clothes and a few books into a bundle and walk across the length and breadth of your land , observing human nature by day and watching the stars by night -Then maybe, you may get your own answers.
How Can I tell you !

Anyway , I feel we are missing the context in which these words were spoken.Let us wait till the Audio-Videos are out.

cmlover · Post by **cmlover** » 20 Mar 2007, 06:38

Just wanted to mention that the word 'pUjyaM' means 'zero' in Tamil (and I assume other dravidian languages) but just means venerable in sanskrit. In sanskrit zero is denoted by 'shUnya (which as I mentioned also means 'brahman'). It shows in our dravidian languages we indirectly venerate 'zero' as the Godhead himself. Juust recollect Kannadasan
'pUjiyathtin uLLirunthu rAjjiyaththai ALum puNNIyan..'

coolkarNi

nice story! if only it is possible to find the answer to that question by tying a cloth to a stick and travelling the length of the country I am ready

But I find it mighty easy to get the same answer by just relaxing on my bed with the divine CM reverberating around!

Nick H · Post by **Nick H** » 20 Mar 2007, 08:28

Guys... When the concert included the Muslim call to prayer, I think we can be fairly relaxed about whatever other concepts may have been included

coolkarni · Post by **coolkarni** » 20 Mar 2007, 08:57

More photos updated.
please let me know if you can see all of them .some 40+ snaps

meena · Post by **meena** » 20 Mar 2007, 10:03

Kji

thanks.
no probs. can view 47 pics.

Nick H · Post by **Nick H** » 20 Mar 2007, 10:04

47 photos. Thanks.

There was one other non-Indian present --- who was that?

coolkarni · Post by **coolkarni** » 20 Mar 2007, 10:26

http://www.badongo.com/file/2515123

Opening Track - mainly recorded for Jayaram- sound bytes of the chairs moving around, mike being adjusted, Mridangam being tuned, lights being adjusted..

jayaram · Post by **jayaram** » 20 Mar 2007, 14:53

coolkarni wrote:http://www.badongo.com/file/2515469
Tribute by Neyveli Santhangopalan and Response by GS Mani.

Cool-ji, the response by GSM-sir seems to have been chopped off. Can you pls repost the whole clip if you have it. GSM was elaborating an interesting philosophical point...Many thanks

Btw, GSM's linking of MMGowla to the Adhan (Muslim call to prayer) is brilliant. He is a true yogi who goes beyond religious boundaries...

coolkarni · Post by **coolkarni** » 20 Mar 2007, 16:06

Jayaram
You wll have to wait for the second hlaf of the mp3 uploads and the full video uploads (they are yet to reach me )
this truncated clip was from the camera clip with one of the guests..

cmlover · Post by **cmlover** » 20 Mar 2007, 21:45

Sorry
The pictures are mostly noninformative! The resolution is poor! Also would like to know who the better sex folks are! Any from the Forum?

rajeshnat · Post by **rajeshnat** » 20 Mar 2007, 23:49

Try my uploaded album using picassa.Once you click the url , click on the slideshow link.
http://picasaweb.google.com/rajeshnat/M ... rch17_2007

pinkchry · Post by **pinkchry** » 21 Mar 2007, 00:22

cmlover, be sure to click on the photo at the right to get a larger version

rshankar · Post by **rshankar** » 21 Mar 2007, 00:33

Rajesh: thanks for the link...nice pictures and great captioning!

cmlover · Post by **cmlover** » 21 Mar 2007, 03:50

Thanks! very nice!
Everybody looks fit as a fiddle!
Do miss some of our Forumites

Who is the 'this must be GNB' person?

mohan · Post by **mohan** » 21 Mar 2007, 04:49

Thanks for the pictures on picasaweb! cml - I think that is Sri GB Bhuvaneswaran (GNB's son)

cmlover · Post by **cmlover** » 21 Mar 2007, 05:05

Sounds right Mohan! Thanks

Nick H · Post by **Nick H** » 21 Mar 2007, 21:26

Rajesh, thanks for your pics

prashant · Post by **prashant** » 22 Mar 2007, 11:53

Looking forward to the audio of the rare Dikshitar song. Must have been a treat!

cmlover · Post by **cmlover** » 22 Mar 2007, 20:01

Excellent videography! very professional! Thanks
Some problems with DIV00004 !
Await the rest....

coolkarni · Post by **coolkarni** » 22 Mar 2007, 20:52

mp3 tracks have been updated in the same post as the one where I had uploaded till track no 9 earlier.
Full concert uploaded.

Will continue with video uploads here later

laxmiv · Post by **laxmiv** » 22 Mar 2007, 20:55

Dear Kulkarni,

Thank you for this wonderful concert by Shri GS Mani and the previous one by Shri Ramaprasad.

I had not visted the forum since early February I am an accountant and this is the busiest time of the year

Even when I visit, I will glance thru ragas/vidwans and move on.

And all the action has been under general discussions. I logged in over the weekend and saw all the amazing things happening in chennai. I would like to contribute in some small way towards arranging these events. Can you pelase send me your mailing address?

You introduced me to Shri GS Mani and now this full length concert of his compositions. Thank you so much.

Laxmi