Jayachamaraja Odeyar (Mysore Maharajah) - Part II

meena · Post by **meena** » 24 Aug 2006, 09:51

BOY! U 2 are in a soup, u'll hear from DRS, this is a 'serious' class

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 24 Aug 2006, 15:21

supradIpa is a upAnga janya of the 17th mELa- sUryakAnta. It scale is

SR2M1PD2N3S* | S*NDPMG3MRS ||

madhyama and dhaivata are jIvaswaras. It evokes dainya and SOka. But oDeyar's kRti does not have too much of either of these rasas. Its mood is rather bright. T's varaSikhivAhana is the first kRti in the rAga as far as is known.

oDeyar has used a lengthy tALa of 13 beats in the composition. A very elaborate and leisurely exposition of the rAga.

Raja Chandra · Post by **Raja Chandra** » 25 Aug 2006, 01:03

drshrikaanth wrote:pancamAtanga mukha is also called hEramba gaNapati. Im sure Raja Chandra will come up with a nice pic from SrI tattva nidhi.

DRS,

Thanks !! Sorry i was a bit busy and did not see the posts for a while !

I have some doubts, HH quotes three forms of gaNapati in this kRuti

1. pancamAtanga mukha i.e hEramba gaNapati.
2. siddhi vinAyaka ( siddha gaNapati ?)
3. kShipra prasAdakara - gaNApati.

which of these forms do you want me to post here ?

rshankar · Post by **rshankar** » 25 Aug 2006, 01:12

ALL of them?

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 25 Aug 2006, 01:26

Raja Chandra
Please post pancamAtanga gaNapati here as the song is about this particular form. And the other 2 in the iconography thread.

arasi · Post by **arasi** » 25 Aug 2006, 03:39

Madam spares herself?! How many 'tOppu karaNams' for Ganesa?

coolkarni · Post by **coolkarni** » 25 Aug 2006, 11:50

http://quickdump.com/files/167996906.html
chittoor--Varasikhivahana-Suprade

http://quickdump.com/files/1180165105.html
Varasiki Vahana-Supradeepam-Tp Vaidyanathan.mp3

Raja Chandra · Post by **Raja Chandra** » 25 Aug 2006, 23:46

drshrikaanth wrote:Raja Chandra
Please post pancamAtanga gaNapati here as the song is about this particular form. And the other 2 in the iconography thread.

atha shrikAMta varada hastaM

||atha hEraMbagaNapatidhyAnaM|| mudgalapurANE-

abhayavaradahastaM pAshadaMtAkShamAlA-
sRuNiparashudadhAnaM mudgaraM mOdakaM ca|
phalamadhigatasiMhaH paMcamAtaMgavaktrO
gaNapatiratigauraH pAtu hEraMbanAmA ||

Gersturing fearlessness/peace/safety & boons in his two hands and holding noose, tusk, rosary, hook, axe, hammer, sweet/mOdaka & fruit in his other hands, having five faces of elephant, riding a Lion, having a splendid white color, having hEraMba as your name - may Lord gaNapati protect one and all.

Amen.

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 25 Aug 2006, 23:47

dhanyavAda rAjan!

nice pic, as expected. The diffrence between this and the pic I posted is that the faces are all in the same level here(no Urdhvamukha in this)

meena · Post by **meena** » 26 Aug 2006, 00:30

now this is a lion

Raja Chandra · Post by **Raja Chandra** » 26 Aug 2006, 00:52

rshankar wrote:ALL of them?

ravi,

please see the iconography thread.

meena,

i am glad

rshankar · Post by **rshankar** » 26 Aug 2006, 00:58

RC,
THANKS for all your efforts...
Ravi

ramakriya · Post by **ramakriya** » 26 Aug 2006, 01:03

And I guess this lion is well fed

No wonder considering that it originated in Mysore Palace !!

-Ramakriya

cmlover · Post by **cmlover** » 26 Aug 2006, 01:17

Thanks Rc! Please post the other pictures too at your leisure!
I was holding out for the shlOka though I was stumped with that posted by DRS. As I counted the ten hands I was looking for ten objects/functions. Now legitimately it must be 'abhayavaradahastau' (dual accusative) to even the count. The use of the singular stumped me (since they don't generally make grammatical errors). It then dawned on me that abhayavaradahastaM is a samAhAra dvandva and hence is used as a singular neutre. Thus the meaning is not just "Gesturing fearlessness/peace/safety & boons in his two hands" a lot more : sarvabhaya nivAraNam ca sarvAbhiShTa dAyakam and more...

Thanks coolkarni for that chittoor's rare gem 'vraSikhivAhana'.

rshankar · Post by **rshankar** » 26 Aug 2006, 01:20

rAjabhOjanam, huh?

See, this one was posted by our very own rAjA, RC.
Well, I better stop this before my knuckles are rapped for levity!:P

arasi · Post by **arasi** » 26 Aug 2006, 04:46

Raja Chandra,
What a beautiful image!

cml,
I am steering clear of you scholars and keeping my distance when it comes to erudite exchanges. All that I want to say is that I have heard that Professor Yamunacharya, a distinguished scholar and author was His Highness's teacher and guide in his pursuit of knowledge. Surely it means that grammatical mistakes would not have found any room in his sAhiyAs.

RC, is it true?

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 26 Aug 2006, 06:41

SrI nAgalingam upAsmahE in vAcaspati, miSra jhampe tALa

Click here to download SrI nAgalingam upAmahE- vAcaspati- miSra jhampe- odeyar.wma

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 26 Aug 2006, 07:06

sAhitya of ||SrI nAgalingam upAsmahE||

rAga: vAcaspati ; miSra jhampE tALa

SrI nAgalimgam upAsmahE sAmbam |
SrI kAmESvarIpriyam citpratibimbam ||P||

SrI nIlakaNTham Sivam mahAnaTam |
dhyAna nirata nijabhakta kUTam bAlacandraSObhita jaTAjUTam gajacarmapaTam ||AP||

Om AdivarNa sambOdhitam viSvanAtham |
umAdEvyAsthAnkam upaniShatpratipAditam |
SamadamAdi sakalayOga suprItAm satatam |
samAdhiyOga niratam nIlalOhitam ||
amAdi pUrNimAnta tithi Sakti rUpam SrI vidyAsahita paSupatim vAcaspatim ||C||

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 26 Aug 2006, 07:59

Raja Chandra
The ShaDvidhamArgiNi kRti- SrI cAmuNDESvarIm bhajarE has been discussed in part 1 (No 55). SO that brings the number back to 94 kRtis. All is well now

Sorry about harping on this- did your receive my email?

I have discussd 85. The remaining are

86. gam gaNapatE sadA namastE- nAgasvarAvaLI- khaNDa tripuTa tALa
87. bhajarE rE mAnasa- bhAnucandrikE- rUpaka tALa
88. SrI cAmuNDESvarim- madhyamAvati- Adi tALa
89. pAhimAm SrI- jayasamvardhani- khaNDa tripuTa tALa
90. vandE jagadambikE- vasantabhairavi- khaNDa Jhampe
91. paripAhimam- ShaNmukhapriya- miSra jhampe
92. paripAhimam- SuddhadhanyAsi- miSra jhampe
93. uvarNAngi rAjamAtangi- suvarNAngi- miSra jhampe
94. bhuvanESvari- mArgahindOLa- Adi

meena · Post by **meena** » 26 Aug 2006, 09:11

DRS

can u pl. use an alternate upload site. sorry and thanks

murralidharan_vra · Post by **murralidharan_vra** » 26 Aug 2006, 11:52

For those who joined later, how can they down load songs?
Is there any provision available?
Murralidharan_vra

coolkarni · Post by **coolkarni** » 26 Aug 2006, 13:02

million dollar question !!
First of all indication of an area of interest will be of great help.There cannot be a generalised solution to this requirement.
Try to entice earlier downloaders to upload by discussing on the respective thread.As a newcomer you are welcome indeed and should feel at home to ask.
Then hope for enough reuploaders to volunteer
(probably a section can then be opened only for reuploads)
if none of these things happen , then you will have to bet on revealing your identity / locations / here or through the email options to some of the prominent uploaders etc to see if they can reach out to you.
For that try emailing the uploader via his email
This may not guarantee but there are no simpler ways , considering the amount of discussions taking place.

A very difficult question , but one will have to remember that if a line of communication is left open - by way of indicating your place of location , email in the profiles , something can be hoped for.

Raja Chandra · Post by **Raja Chandra** » 26 Aug 2006, 13:31

drshrikaanth wrote:Raja Chandra

Sorry about harping on this- did your receive my email?

DRS,
thanks for solving the puzzle ! I knew it could be something like this but did not get time to identify the repetitive entry.

No i have never recived any mail from you in the recent past !

Raja Chandra · Post by **Raja Chandra** » 26 Aug 2006, 13:56

arasi wrote:Raja Chandra,
What a beautiful image!

cml,
I am steering clear of you scholars and keeping my distance when it comes to erudite exchanges. All that I want to say is that I have heard that Professor Yamunacharya, a distinguished scholar and author was His Highness's teacher and guide in his pursuit of knowledge. Surely it means that grammatical mistakes would not have found any room in his sAhiyAs.

RC, is it true?

Well! I am not a scholar by any stretch and do not lay any claim to erudition either but only trying to interpret the Kannada text which is already embedded in the painting. For the record these pictures belongs to a different era. These are credited to Mummudi Krishna Raja Wadiyar (KRW III) who ruled Mysore from 1799-1868. He is considered as abhinava bhOja and largely responsible for making Mysore as a cultural capital and reviving Kannada and culture.

No credit is given to any artists. This is in book form and contains hand painted pictures with hand written text. It contains Nine Nidhi's. How many copies were made is not known. How many such treasures got burnt in the fire that broke out and engulfed the old Palace in 1896 is not known? I have seen a copy where a few pages only text was written and space left for painting! But the beauty is even after so many years and with no particular (scientific) effort made to safeguard the book , it still retains the color and the pages are unaffected by the passage of time !

This is how he starts the book:

shrI kRuShNarAja maharAja kaMThIrava viracitavAda maMtrarahasyada shRitatvanidhiyaMba graMthavaM sacitravAgi bariyuvudakke nirviGnamastu

sorry DRS for the digression

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 26 Aug 2006, 16:47

Dear RC
I sent 2 emails to you. And AFAIK the address appears to be correct. Do you mind sending me an email? Thanks.

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 26 Aug 2006, 18:05

Notes on ||SrI nAgalingam upAsmahE||

rAga: vAcaspati ; miSra jhampE tALa

SrI nAgalimgam upAsmahE- I worship nAgalinga; sAmbam;
SrI kAmESvarI priyam- Him dear to kAmESvari;
citpratibimbam- Him Who is verily the parabrahma(cit) and ts reflection(jIvAtma) i.e the universe is but a mere reflection of Him and has no independent existence from Him (advaita);

SrI nIlakaNTham- Him with a dark throat(from consuming poison); Sivam;
mahAnaTam- the great dancer;
dhyAna nirata nija bhakta kUTam- Him surrounded by his devotees whose thoughts are immersed in Him;
bAlacandraSObhita jaTAjUTam- Him Whose matted locks are adorned with the young moon;
gajacarmapaTam- Him wearing the skin of an elephant as his raiment;

Om AdivarNa sambOdhitam- Him addressed by the primordial syllable of OmkAra; viSvanAtham- Lord of the universe;
umAdEvyAsthAnkam- Him on Whose thigh umA is seated;
upaniShatpratipAditam- Him expounded by the upaniShads;
Sama damAdi sakalayOga suprItAm- Him Who is appeased by all the yOgas including Sama(tranquility of mind obtained throughintense meditation) & dama(self-restraint); satatam- always;
samAdhiyOga niratam- Him Who is engrossed the the samAdhi yOga;
nIlalOhitam- Him Who has a dark and ruddy hue;
amAdi pUrNimAnta tithi Sakti rUpam- Him Who is the power of the 15 day cycle beginning with the new moon and ending with the full moon;
SrIvidyAsahita paSupatim- The Lord of all life and the consort of SrIvidyA(pArvati); vAcaspatim- The Lord of speech.

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 26 Aug 2006, 18:09

Can someone make out the first words of the second line in the caraNa? I have marked it with a question mark.

coolkarni · Post by **coolkarni** » 26 Aug 2006, 20:53

http://rapidshare.de/files/30834863/56- ... spathi.mp3

RTP by MLV

cmlover · Post by **cmlover** » 26 Aug 2006, 22:01

I am hearing it as:
umAdEvyA vAntam which would mean one who emitted umAdEvI which does make sense! Or you can interpret also as one who was emitted by dEvI which gives the importance to dEvI (according to dEvI mahAtmyam)

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 26 Aug 2006, 22:03

I heard it as svAntam, svAdam, kAntam. Take yor pick

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 26 Aug 2006, 22:12

Alternate download link for SrI nAgalingam upAsmahE

http://www.rogepost.com/dn/at5m/SrI+nAg ... odeyar.wma

Lakshman · Post by **Lakshman** » 26 Aug 2006, 22:21

My lyrics indicates yje words as: unAdEvyAdi sahitam ...

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 26 Aug 2006, 22:25

I have those lyrics too Lakshman. That is not correct. If you note, the song starts as SrI nAgalinga mahESvaram which is also incorrect.

Raja Chandra · Post by **Raja Chandra** » 26 Aug 2006, 23:35

DRS,

even in the first line of the caraNA, it sounds more like umAdi varNA ...
the second line as umAdi vyAsAMka upaniShatprati..

But it is difficult !!!

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 26 Aug 2006, 23:42

Yes it sounds like umAdi varNa but it is definiely OmAdi. But no sahita in 2nd line. Simply not enough space for it.

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 27 Aug 2006, 00:22

vAcaspati is the 64th sampUrNa mELa. Its scale is

SR2G3M2PD2N2S* | S*NDPMGRS ||

R.R.Keshavamurthy states that all swaras are jIva swaras.
D is particularly important both as jIva and nyAsa swara. The rAga evokes hAsya and SRngAra rasas. There is also SAnt in the rAga. A very nice rAga that can be elaborated. oDeyar's brisk kRti brings out the bhAva well.

There are a number of kRtis in the rAga. T'S kaNTa jUDumi is considered to have been originally set to latAngi. Papanasam Sivan's parAtpara paramESvara is beautiful(Especially in MSS's voicce).

Kulkarni, thanks for the RTP, can we have some other pieces in the rAga.

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 27 Aug 2006, 00:28

The lyric in the 2nd line is "umAdEvyAsthAnkam". Meaning "Him on WHose thigh is seated umA".

cmlover · Post by **cmlover** » 27 Aug 2006, 02:35

very apt!

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 27 Aug 2006, 02:59

Thanks for confirming CML. While we wait for some more vAcaspati clips from coolkarni, as it is gaNESa cauti/caturti today, I am posting oDeyar's kRti on gaNapati (The last but one left on gaNapati)-

gam gaNapatE sadA namastE- nAgaswarAvaLi, khaNDa triputa.

Click here to download gam gaNaptE sadA- nAgaswarAvaLi- khaNDa tripuTa- oDeyar

(THe link does download. No complaints please)

gauri mattu gaNapati nimmella kOrikegaLannu susUtravAgi IDErisali.
May gauri & gaNapati grant all your wishes without any hitch.

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 27 Aug 2006, 03:03

mAtu for ||gam gaNapatE sadA namastE||

rAgA: nAgaswarAvaLi ; khaNDa tripuTa tALa

gam gaNapatE sadA namastE ||P||

gangAdharasuta gargamuninuta ||
gangAnadI taTanivAsarata gambhIra mEghadhvaniyuta Subhada carita ||AP||

murAri pramukhAdi samsEvita|
parAdi catvAri vAgvibhUShita|
purAri caraNakamala sEvAnirata|
surAsurAdi vinuta SrI vidyA tOShita||
nAdabramha sanjAta nAham jIvOhambramhAsmIti pratipAdita su- |
-nAda nAgaswarAvaLi vibhUShita sOham bhAva sahitaikadanta ||C||

mnsriram · Post by **mnsriram** » 27 Aug 2006, 05:34

Dear DRS, such a nice krithi. Thanks. Please post the chiTTaswaram if it is not too much trouble.

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 27 Aug 2006, 06:06

ciTTeswara

P ;- D S*D D- P D P P- G P M G- S G P M G |
S ;- S S G ,- S G M ,- G , M P D- ||
S* D S* G* , G*- S* G* M* G* ,- S* G* M* G* S*- D P M P- |
D S* G* S* ,- P D S* D ,-P M G S G M ||

pinkchry · Post by **pinkchry** » 27 Aug 2006, 08:39

http://rapidshare.de/files/30896656/wodeyar1.zip

first set of files that I have downloaded from this thread

http://rapidshare.de/files/30905571/wodeyar2.zip

mnsriram · Post by **mnsriram** » 27 Aug 2006, 15:16

Thanks DRS

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 27 Aug 2006, 16:07

Notes on ||gam gaNapatE sadA namastE||

rAgA: nAgaswarAvaLi ; khaNDa tripuTa tALa

gam- the bIjAkShara for gaNapati;
gaNESArthE ga uktastE bindurduhkhaharArthakaH |
gam bIjArtham tu kathitam tava snEhAn mahESvari || (varadA tantra)

gaNapatE; sadA- ever; namastE- obeisance to You.

gangAdharasuta- SOn of ISvara, who bears gangA on his head; gargamuni nuta- You praised by sage garga;
gangA nadItaTa nivAsarata- You Who are keen on residing on the banks of the river ganga;
gambhIra mEghadhwaniyuta- You with the deep and sonourous voice of a cloud;
Subhada carita- You with a disposition to grant prosperity and blessings;

murAri pramukhAdi samsEvita- You Who are worshipped by viShNu and others;
parAdi catvAri vAgvibhUShita- You Who are adorned by the 4 stages of speech, namely parA, paSyantI, madhyamA & vaikharI;
purAri caraNakamala sEvAnirata- You Who are engrossed in the service of the lotus feet of ISvara;
sura asurAdi vinuta- You Who are eulogised bu the suras and asuras alike;
SrIvidyA tOShita- You Who are pleased by SrIvidyA (as the vidyA or as His mother);
nAdabramha sanjAta- You born of the nAdabrahma;
nAham jIvO aham bramhAsmi iti pratipAdita- You Who are explained by the upaniShadic vAkyas/statements such as "nAham jIvO" "aham brahmAsmi";
dEhO nAham, JIvO nAham | pratyagabhinna AtmAivAhamÃƒÆ’Ã‚Â¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ã‚Â¬"

rshankar · Post by **rshankar** » 27 Aug 2006, 19:46

DRS,
What does nAgaswarAvaLi mean on its own?
Ravi

cmlover · Post by **cmlover** » 27 Aug 2006, 23:00

DRS

What an amazing composition with pregnant meanings. My praNams to you for the masterly exposition with the appropriate quotes. As you know most of these occur in the gaNapati atarvashirShOpaniShad which is the foundation of the gaNapati tantra!
I could see the sparks of MD in these tantric expositions of JC!

I now look forward to your masterly exposition of this lovely raga which is esoterically appropriate. Let me just give a start by mentioning that the grahabhedam on pancama of Hamsadhvani will lead to nAgaswarAvaLi and coincidentally the former was choosen by MD to eulogize vinAyaka in his immortal 'vAtApi..' (JC reminds us through 'parAdi catvAri ...').

Now do call for the appropriate kritis (which I am sure Kji/others will oblige) to complete our enjoyment of this great vinAyaka caturthI

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 28 Aug 2006, 01:07

rshankar wrote:What does nAgaswarAvaLi mean on its own?

nAga has many meanings including snake, elephant, cloud., amomg others. And in word compounds, when used as a prefix, it means "excellent/great/best of its kind". This meaning will be most appropriate. So nAgaswara means the best swaras, AvaLi is a row/arrangement. SO nAgaswarAvaLi is an "arrangement/row of the best swaras".

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 28 Aug 2006, 03:45

nAgaswarAvaLi is a ubhaya-auDava upAnga janya of the 28th mELa. Its scale is

SG3M1PD2S* | S*DPMGS ||

This rAga is very sprightly and conveys a bright mood. It conveys SRngAra and vira rasa. tyAgarAja was the first to compose a kRti in the rAga- SrIpatE nIpada. D and G are the jIva swaras. They for a consonant pair. In the ascent, D is often sung with an upward swing. The other swaras are pretty much steady notes. Although it shares the sprightliness of gambhIra nATa/vEdaNDagamana from which it differs by only one swara(D in place of N), the change of one swara makes it less strident in its tone.

SrISankaraguruvaram of Maha Vaidyanatha Sivan is a very ncie kRti in the rAga. oDeyra's kRti is of course a valuable addition to the reperoire in this rAga. As CML has pointed out, the kRti could well have been conceived as a complement to MD's vAtApi. oDeyar, who is generally unmindful of prAsa and yati rules, has maintained Adi prasa to a large extent in this kRti. Recall here that he has composed another kRti in dUrvAnki "gam gaNapatE namastE". Thi has already been discussed.

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 28 Aug 2006, 03:56

Some pieces in the rAga from MIO

DKJ sings SrIpatE
http://www.musicindiaonline.com/p/x/Bqb ... As1NMvHdW/

KVN sings the same
http://www.musicindiaonline.com/p/x/2qX ... As1NMvHdW/

Vedavalli sings SrI Sankara guruvaram
http://www.musicindiaonline.com/p/x/-Uf ... As1NMvHdW/

Sudha sings the same
http://www.musicindiaonline.com/p/x/zUI ... As1NMvHdW/