bEgadA

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narayan
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Post by narayan »

Apologies for following up on my own post, but Vallabha nayaka, Anudinamunu and Chidambaram in Begada are also of the G,MPDP flavour, give or take a flourish. So is Yarukkagilum bhayama? Don't recall the pallavi line of the other Begada padam. The song that keerthi mentions is on a ventilator, Manasuna nera, how does it go?

keerthi
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Post by keerthi »

Yarukkagilum goes pPm mggM P P dpS .. Earlier posts in this thread list Yela padare which is the Kshetrayya padam.. It is very beautiful..

Ma-na-su-na ne-ra goes M-G-P-M D-P in one Avartam of rUpakam..

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Post by davalangi »

Here is nI pada pankajamula by the Toronto Brothers:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hVxVsMhwk8

vasanthakokilam
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Post by vasanthakokilam »

Encountered these two great links while looking up some info on Begada:

Sanjay: http://sanjaysub.blogspot.com/2009/01/k ... ramam.html

CAC Newsletter: http://www.carnatica.net/newsletter/beg ... letter.htm

CRama
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Post by CRama »

Interestingly there are two songs starting with the same words in Begada- Kadikann vaithennai aalamma. IIRC one is by Ramaswami Sivan and another by Mayuram Viswanatha Sastri.

satyabalu
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Post by satyabalu »

davalangi wrote:Here is nI pada pankajamula by the Toronto Brothers:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hVxVsMhwk8
In some schools (ALB to be specific) the chittai swaram is followed by sahithya"Ninnu mana suna ney nenu dina munu gana /ma nadana mani ninu koni yadithi// Thana una kanu koni nenaru thonu nan/u brovu panna kendra sannu thanga"// (Words may need correction).(Nee padapankajamula)

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satyabalu wrote: In some schools (ALB to be specific) the chittai swaram is followed by sahithya"Ninnu mana suna ney nenu dina munu gana /ma nadana mani ninu koni yadithi// Thana una kanu koni nenaru thonu nan/u brovu panna kendra sannu thanga"// (Words may need correction).(Nee padapankajamula)
satyabAlu,

I have seen this chiTTaswaram, along with the sAhityam, in the tillaistAnam publications. I haven't had an opportunity to hear the Alathur pADam of this song. The other pATAntara-s that I've heard - muktamma, Sandhyavandanam, SRJ, tiruppAmburam SwAminAtha piLLai and the rAllapalli.A.Sarma pATham, most of which sing all the caraNams, do not sing the C.Swaram.

This sAhityam is also a bit suspect, since it used the non-classical term 'sannutAnga' which has emerged only in the paTnam - pUchi era of composition. tyAgarAja doesn't seem to have used this word in his compositions. Also the sAhitya is overall not up to the mark.


It is however a little-heard kIrtanam, with beautiful sangatis, and different-tuned caranams that needs to be sung more often.

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Post by satyabalu »

"Also the sAhitya is overall not up to the mark."


It is however a little-heard kIrtanam, with beautiful sangatis, and different-tuned caranams that needs to be sung more often."
"javaranuthajajavaravitav javarajasritha Thiagaraja
javaraja rudravanisewara pavaneyamunijivanaanujamu" Nee...(words may need correction).Don't you think this charanam is good in sahithya keerthi!" The other part that this is attributed to Thiagaraja or not I have no clues though you have a point "sannuthanga".

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Post by keerthi »

satyabAlu, let me rush to clarify that I am not calling nI padapankaja of inferior quality. On the contrary it is one of the bard's finest pieces, from the dhatu-mAtu perspectives. I can see that my previous post is ambiguous.

I meant that the chiTTaswaram sAhityam alone is not up to the mark and is suspect.

p.s -

It is jyA-vara-nuta! jyAjA-vara! bidau-|-jA+avaraja! shrita-tyAgarAja!
jya-vara+aja-rudra+avanI-sura-bhAvanIya! muni-jIvana anisamu|| nI padapankaja

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Post by satyabalu »

keerthi wrote:satyabAlu, let me rush to clarify that I am not calling nI padapankaja of inferior quality. On the contrary it is one of the bard's finest pieces, from the dhatu-mAtu perspectives. I can see that my previous post is ambiguous.

I meant that the chiTTaswaram sAhityam alone is not up to the mark and is suspect.

p.s -

It is jyA-vara-nuta! jyAjA-vara! bidau-|-jA+avaraja! shrita-tyAgarAja!
jya-vara+aja-rudra+avanI-sura-bhAvanIya! muni-jIvana anisamu|| nI padapankaja
I now stand clarified on your point &corrected on the words in last charanam.I remember one lean visually challenged lady presenting this no in Sethupathi HS Madurai in 1960-64.

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Post by SrinathK »

Ramnad Krishnan singing abhimAnamennadu galgu rAmA, a composition of Patnam Subramania Iyer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRgbmHmr9H0

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Post by Sachi_R »

Ganesh Kumaresh are very fond of Begada and play it often. Here is an interesting Begada:
https://youtu.be/glAt0-0ldfI

SrinathK
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Post by SrinathK »

A prime MLV singing neevErA kula dhanamu of Thyagarja - with AlApanA and swarAs :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDpZ3S2gKj0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUlpo-K2cgc - a strange gap in the middle of the recording

and while we are at it, here's her guru singing it as only he can : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DA7QBpcCgzA

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Post by SrinathK »

chidambaram hara harA endroru daram of Gopalakrishna Bharati by GNB : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wo90e4Ep1qU

And that reply from LGJ.

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Post by SrinathK »

CAC Newsletter on bEgaDa along with rendition recordings. http://carnatica.in/newsletter/begadanewsletter.htm

Jayanthi1956
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Post by Jayanthi1956 »

Vallabhaa naayagasya
I heard Doh singing.
Superb BEGADA.
I love it.

Jayanthi1956
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Post by Jayanthi1956 »

It should be DKJ singing.
Spell check played on my typing.
Sorry.

ajaysimha
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Post by ajaysimha »

looking for identity of this ragam
i heard the phrase of the avarohanam is the first key identifier
's n,, d p m,, g r s
any other important phrases ?

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Post by HarishankarK »

Nandanare undan perumaiyay indru kanden is a beautiful piece by Gopalakrishna Bharathi sung by Nithyashree

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Post by shankarank »

This is a harikAmbodhi janya bEgaDa which Sri Ravikiran always maintained to be as such. https://youtu.be/jhA0Uh5wpX0?t=2205. As TiruvArur Girish negotiates the upper reaches one can get a flavor of navarasa-kannada in it.

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