Hemavati / Hemavathi

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sruthi
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Hemavati / Hemavathi

Post by sruthi »

58th mela ragam. Pratimadhyama counterpart to Kharharapriya. Quite a haunting, mystical raga.

This article has a nice discussion on the raga: http://seetha-narayanan.sulekha.com/blo ... avathi.htm
Didn't know it was called Deshi Simharavam under the Dikshitar system until I read the article.

Not many kritis seem to have been composed in hemavati. Wonder why.

Has anyone done RTP in this ragam?

satyabalu
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Re: Hemavati / Hemavathi

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*In" Hariyuvadim " of MD the first sangathi in pallavi"Akilaloka Janani" R G R S N D N S R" is replete with Karaharapriya (due to absence of Ma)- my experience.

sruthi
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Re: Hemavati / Hemavathi

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Curious to find out what other kritis are there in Hemavati

Sreeni Rajarao
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sruthi wrote:Curious to find out what other kritis are there in Hemavati
I am sure Lakshmanji will come up with a good list.

There is one composition in kannaDa language by Veena Raja Rao, composed on Feb 11th, 1942

Pallavi : yadukula nidhi gOvinda
dayavAgo SrI mukunda

I do not have an audio file, yet.

I will be happy to share the swara (in kannaDa script) and sAhitya (in kannaDa and english script) with anyone interested.

In return, I will ask for an audio file!!

Sreeni Rajarao

Lakshman
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Re: Hemavati / Hemavathi

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Songs in Hemavati.

Anjaneya svaminam-Adi-N.P.Ramasvami
Annaiye ennai ni shodanai sheide- -Rajalakshmi Parameshvaran
Aranga aravanaiariduyil-Adi-Periasami Tooran
Arivudaiyore-Adi-Shivagangai Ramasvami Shroutigal
Aro niyena vayil adaittu nan vaittene aivarudan-Chapu-Periasami Tooran
Arul puri muruga aravanaittu anbudan sharanam-Adi-Kovai Subri
Arul taruvai shri mahalakshmi-Adi-Ashok R.Madhav
Brahmanayi sharadambike- -Bangalore S.Mukund
Chidambara natha tiruvarul ta ta chittam irangada-Adi-Papanasham Shivan
Chintaya paramesham gokarnesham-Rupaka-C.Rangiah
Dhyayami durgam devim sarva dukkha nivarinim-Rupaka-R.K.Suryanarayana
Durga devi-K/Matya-R.K.Suryanarayana
Durge bhagavati pahi-Adi-Mangalam Ganapati
Ennai kattarulvadu oru bharama adimai en-Adi-Papanasham Shivan
Gopala ganalola-Adi-R.Shrinivasan (Nadopasana)
Hari govinda ninnane-K/Chapu-Bangalore S.Mukund
Hariyuvatim haimavatim aradhayami satatam-T/Eka-Muttusvami Dikshitar
Hemangini-M/Jhampa-Bangalore S.Mukund
Himagiri sute haimavate amba-Adi-Rukmini Ramani
Himagiri tanaye haimavati hrinkara bijakshari-Adi-Kadalur Subramaniam
Ika talanenura ina vamsha tilaka ne-K/Chapu-S.Ramanathan
Ini aghilum ezhaikkirangai-Adi-Abraham Panditar
Isayil isaiya isai isaiyagum tamizh isaiyin-K/Chapu-Kalaikkuttan
Iyarkkai inbam-Adi-P.V.Harihara Iyer
Jalamela karuna jupudaku (tv)-Adi-Vinai Bhairavamurti
Karudiyadu ellam-Adi-N.S.Chidambaram
Karuna jalanidhe guha kamita phalada mamava-Rupaka-N.S.Ramachandran
Karunaiyin avataram-Adi-Periasami Tooran
Khala rahita akhila desha-Rupaka-V.V.Shrivatsa
Lalita purna brahma shaktya rakshitoham paripurna-Adi-Kollegal R.Subramaniam
Madhurambikayam sada bhaktim karomi shri-Rupaka-Muttusvami Dikshitar
Manade maravade guha devanai-Rupaka-Kotishvara Iyer
Manam pola mangalyam (f)- -Ilayaraja
Mantrini matanga tanaye-Adi-Muttiah Bhagavatar
Marali bhayattai-Madhyadi-Vinai Krishnamacharya
Marava varam-Rupaka-T.R.Subramaniam
Matangi shri rajarajeshvari shri chakrasthite-Adi-Indira Natesan
Mukambikaiye-Rupaka-Bangalore S.Mukund
Mullai nilatturai nallarundaye-Chapu-Tamizhnambi
Nada nal shoru panaya gita-T/Chapu-Abraham Panditar
Nan pashitta podu ellam tan pashittaraghi (a)-Adi-Ramalingasvami
Natha narsvarupa (sj)-T/Chapu-Abraham Panditar
Navukkarashanai jnana kozhundinai-Adi-Dandapani Deshikar
Ni nama mantra-Adi-Vinai Krishnamacharya
Ni pada sarasa-Rupaka-N.C.Krishnamacharyulu
Ni sari sati evaru ledanuchu niratamu ne ni padamu-Adi-Tyagaraja
Nidamunadiru pada malarinai ninaindu uruguvaden ne-Rupaka-R.Venugopal
Nimishamanu (tv)-Ata-Shrikaanth K.Murthy
Nine dayalo nirmala chitta govinda nigama gochara-Adi-Purandaradasa
Ninnu juchi nedu nenu dhanyudaitini-Rupaka-Vina Sheshanna
Padi alakkumkannanai kutti vaittai anru-Adi-Saidasan
Padmavatim bhavayami- -Bangalore S.Mukund
Palimpave nannu phanipatishayi-Adi-Vinai Kuppier
Palittu arul minakshi pashamochani amba-Rupaka-D.Pattammal
Pamalai punaindu unai pada nan peraval-Adi-Haimavati Tyagarajan
Paripalanai puri parvati mainda para daivamana-Adi-Papanasham Shivan
Purahara-Adi-Dokka Sriramamurti
Sa ni dha pa ma ga ri (js)-Chapu-Tanjavur Quartette
Sarasiruhaksha-C/Triputa-Vina Shivaramiah
Shenniyadu un pol tiruvadi tamarai- -Abhirami Bhattar
Shivanda padattai kanavenum enru chintaiyil ninai-Adi-Muttu Tandavar
Shivanukkilaiya sheye shevvel shilambane ni va-Rupaka-Mayuram Vishvanatha Shastri
Shri kantimatim shankarayuvatim shri guruguha-Adi-Muttusvami Dikshitar
Shri raja rajeshvari-Adi-Indira Natesan
Shri venkatagiri vasa (lkg)-Eka-Venkatamakhi
Soma bimba vadani sundari samagana priya-Adi-Ashok R.Madhav
Sundaresha-Adi-Ramasvami Shivan
Tarunam idenamma i bhava taranopayamu telpi-Adi-Balamuralikrishna
Tatiyurumatir shuzhalum-C/Eka-Abhirami Bhattar
Ten mazhai pozhiginran kannan daiva yamunai karai-Adi-S.Vembu
Umam namami haimavatim-M/Jhampa-Jayachamaraja Odeyar
Unnai panivorkku tazhvillai amma un padam-Adi-Sayidasan
Unnarul nadi vanden rama unnatajnana-Adi-Ambujam Krishna
Unnatamana ongum arivu-Jhampa-Shuddhananda Bharati
Unnidam odi vanden urutunai nadi vanden-Adi-Kovai Subri
Uraindu kidakkum-Adi-Vinai Krishnamacharya
Vandal varam tandal-Adi-Guhan?
Vandanaikku uriya shentamizh taye en-Adi-K.S.Krishnamurti
Vanden vanden-Adi-Bangalore S.Mukund
Velavane unnai vendinen enda kalamume-Adi-C.V.Padmanabhan
Venum nin arul taravenum adiyenum-Adi-T.A.Sambandamurti
Vighnesha vidhi martanda-Rupaka-R.K.Suryanarayana
Yadukula nidhi govinda dayavago- -Vina Rajarao

satyabalu
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*A list of unknown songs with a host of unfamiliar composers.Great.

krishna32
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Hi Sruthi

You had asked this :

Has anyone done RTP in this ragam?

Vidwan L.Subramaniam accompanied by Maestro Palghat Raghu on Mridangam has rendered an excellant
Ragam Thanam Pallavi on Raga Hemavathi.

Regards
Krishna

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I haven't come across as many artists who have sung RTP in Hemavathi. However, there is an absolutely gratifying version of MS amma from her concert at Shanmukhananda Sabha in the year 1978(c). She is accompanied by VV.Subramaniam on violin, TK.Murthy on mridangam and TH.Vinayakaram on the ghatam. The pallavi is set in khanda jhampa talam and the link goes here ..

http://www.sangeethamshare.org/vasu/MSS ... mbay-1976/

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I have heard many songs in this raga. It is very deep and mystical. Reflects confusion to an extent. The first recording i heard was by L. Shankar, a RTP from the album- who's to know. Then found Sri Kantimatim in my MS Amma collection, and a rendition by U. Srinivas on dawn raga album. And recently the rtp mentioned above by Ms Amma.

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Abdul Halim Jafar Khan has played a very interesting Hemavathi in Hindusthani .
Album is available in landmark stores . The other raga presented in the album is Jaitsree ,as also a wonderfully captivating dhun.

http://www.amazon.com/Hemavati-Aalap-Jo ... B004GJGYI8

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Post by Ramasubramanian M.K »

puru0047-When you get a chance listen to MS Amma's Virutham in the movie Savithri "Agni Enru Ariyayo Karpudaya Mangayarai starting with kedaragowla and in Hemavathi(the stanza I vaguely remember Utthami Nalayini Sabithanale--only 30 to 45 secs for this piece but shows the essence of hemavathi!! Cienu may be able to help us with his Mother's help!!

Also P.U.Chinnappa's song Silaye Nee Ennudan Pesavallayo is also a good hemavathi.

Ranganayaki
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sruthi wrote:58th mela ragam.
...

Has anyone done RTP in this ragam?
Some time this past spring, there was a concert by the Priya sisters in Pennsylvania where they sang an RTP in hemavathi (ragamalika variations), composed by T.R. Subramaniam.

A quote from my own account of that concert:

The sahitya goes as follows:

Namamyaham Hemavatheem Haripriyaam
Navayuvatheem Gunavatheem Sumatheem Sateem.

Variations of the pallavi and swarams were sung in Rupavathi, Revathi, Kalavathi, which they sang in two versions: Hindustani Kalavathi and Carnatic Kalavathi and Madhuvanti[/i]

svkashyap
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Hi Sreeni,

Please send the lyrics to me.

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Satwik,

Sure, I will email you the swara and sAhitya.

I will look forward to your audio file!

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Lakshman has a very good database - acquired or borrowed and is fast in reeling out the details. We have to acknowledge it duly.

I have heard many RTPs from open concerts in Hymavati ( Hemavati ) a.k.a. Desi Simhaaravam. I also heard many of the compositions listed by Lakshman. I found that Shree Kantimatim & Madhuraambikaayaam by Shri Dikshitar & Nee sari saati by Tyagaraja are the best. The second rung is occupied by Hariyuvatim of Dikshitar, Manade by Kotiswara Iyer & the song by Mayuram V. Sastri. All others are the "also ran"s in the race for composition & existence.

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Lakshman has THE DATABASE .
Emperors , Kings , Queens , Presidents... and the common man - All equal in his eyes .
Ever ready to pitch in when there is a need . 24*7.

sruthi
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http://youtu.be/PO-HeMJQYSU
Towards the end of this clip, vidushi Sowmya makes a point that Dikshitar's Desisimharavam is different from Hemavathi.
I must admit I couldn't quite understand the distinction she makes. Can someone clarify please.
I thought both are sampurna ragas?

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I am confused too - she seems to imply uttaranga ( p, d, n, s ) usage is different, and perhaps there are more subtleties. However inSSP (english version - from guruguha.org):
1. Subbarama dikshitar says "another name for this simharava rAga is hEmavati"
2. Listed Aro/Avaro is sampurna (i.e. same as hEmavati)
3. (to my surprise) SrI kAntimatim is NOT listed.
4. Another krithi is - and its pallavi starts as hariyuvatIm haimavatI . . .

It is also noted that special prayoga is d p m p n n s and p n d n s. The krithi above does not employ p d n s. Neither does the gItam that is listed. However, the sancari that is listed does use p d n s (one place).

Arun

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hariyuvatim haimavatim In the pallavi "Akilaloka janani sree " Re ga ri sa ni da ni sa ri gari sa " No madyamam in this sangathi.( to me this sangathi looks karaharapriya without Ma. how to establish Hemavathi here) :!: next sangathi "Re ga ma pa da ni da pa ma " Pradimadhyamam is occuring.( bear with my lack of expression in notation!) ;) .However, I hope my point is made.

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There is no difference between the two ragas - it is just a matter of usage ( prayoga ) and hence interpretation. Dikshitar is well known to have composed many songs in vivadi ragas by omitting some swaras either in the aarohana or avarohana . This renders the kriti beautiful to listen and easier to sing. In Venkatamakhi's system, kharaharapriya does not exist. You cannot imagine or change ragas just by removing or transplanting one swara.

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arunk - I thought Smt Sowmya sings the phrase 'pa Sa ni dha', not 'pa dha ni Sa' '?
It is still not clear to me if there IS a difference between the two ragas or not.

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Ninnu juchi nedu nenu dhanyudaitini-Rupaka-Vina Sheshanna

I enjoy listening to recordings performed by Vid. Mambalam Sisters and by Vid. Jayanthi Kumaresh

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Hindustani version by Poornami Kulkarni - Vilambit , Drut , Tarana .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TADW1407rtA

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