MANGALAMs
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Re: MANGALAMs
I had a couple of questions regarding the format we use to present a Mangalam today.
1) I’ve noticed that almost invariably most mangalams are sung starting from the Anupallavi. Why is this so?
2) Can we say that a mangalam and a harathi song are equivalent with respect to the typical Carnatic concert?
3) Can manodharmam be performed on a Mangalam?
Also, have any artistes rendered the “Rallapalli” mangalams in their concerts? If yes, links would be most welcome!
1) I’ve noticed that almost invariably most mangalams are sung starting from the Anupallavi. Why is this so?
2) Can we say that a mangalam and a harathi song are equivalent with respect to the typical Carnatic concert?
3) Can manodharmam be performed on a Mangalam?
Also, have any artistes rendered the “Rallapalli” mangalams in their concerts? If yes, links would be most welcome!
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Re: MANGALAMs
Point no 3 is that manodharma can be performed on anything. All those brighas they sing for nee nama definitely falls in that category.
Singing from anupallavi isn't mandatory, but lyrically it can make great sense.
And while we are at that, TMK actually sang it as an opener with full works, so even that barrier seems to have fallen
For a Dikshitar mangalam, Sri mangalambikam in ghaNTA can make a great mangalam, but it's a big kriti worthy of a main number so I hope it doesn't get typecast into that role.
Singing from anupallavi isn't mandatory, but lyrically it can make great sense.
And while we are at that, TMK actually sang it as an opener with full works, so even that barrier seems to have fallen
For a Dikshitar mangalam, Sri mangalambikam in ghaNTA can make a great mangalam, but it's a big kriti worthy of a main number so I hope it doesn't get typecast into that role.
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By manodharmam, I sort of meant swaraprastaram, maybe Neraval in a more stricter sense of the word, and/or a sketchy alapanam.
To be honest the only Mangalam that seems to make better lyrical sense when started at the Anupallavi is Sitapatiki Harati Re-Surati. For reasons unknown the word "Sita" is not generally seen even in books as the starting of the Pallavi, and so if we start with the Pallavi, we'll be singing "Patiki Harati Re" which doesn't make complete sense.Singing from anupallavi isn't mandatory, but lyrically it can make great sense.
I was sincerely hoping that when I ask about the Mangalam, TMK won't enter the discussion Every discussion about him seems to blow up out of control. And anyway, by definition the Mangalam ought to be the last piece presented, and singing it in the beginning, or making it a main piece seems a little odd to me!And while we are at that, TMK actually sang it as an opener with full works, so even that barrier seems to have fallen
I confess I have never heard this krithi being used to serve the purpose of a Mangalam. Isn't it too vast and elaborate? Perhaps making it a Mangalam won't be doing full justice to this krithi. I would dearly love to hear Ghanta mains, and not Ghanta MangalamsFor a Dikshitar mangalam, Sri mangalambikam in ghaNTA can make a great mangalam, but it's a big kriti worthy of a main number so I hope it doesn't get typecast into that role.
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Re: MANGALAMs
When has Sri mangalAmbikAm even been sung live in recent memory?
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Valid point
However, if my memory serves me right, this was rendered in a concert by Vid. Vijayalakshmy Subramaniam a few years back. A recording of the same was uploaded by Subramanian Krishnan on YouTube.
Edit- A link to that rendition of Sri Mangalambikam is given: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSAlECJizC4
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That one? I've dismissed as a spurious one. Do check out my ghaNTA article. No seriously, it is bogus.
Anyway I think I'm drifting off topic into something else. So let's leave this one here.
This thread has offered so many great examples of mangalam numbers. To that, let me add Sri kamalAmbikE sivE pAhi mAm (the mangaLa kriti for MD's navAvarna kritis).
OVK's equivalent is either haladharAnujam in maNirangu or shreechakra mAtangi in suraTi.
Anyway I think I'm drifting off topic into something else. So let's leave this one here.
This thread has offered so many great examples of mangalam numbers. To that, let me add Sri kamalAmbikE sivE pAhi mAm (the mangaLa kriti for MD's navAvarna kritis).
OVK's equivalent is either haladharAnujam in maNirangu or shreechakra mAtangi in suraTi.
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Re: MANGALAMs
Speaking of unique examples for Mangalams, I have learnt a Mangalam dedicated to Lord Ganapati! Heera Ganapatiki Harathi-Surati-Aadi, composed by Dr. M Balamuralikrishna.
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Re: MANGALAMs
In the bharatanATya and bhajana sampradAyam, there’s a composition known as toDakattu mangaLam (mangaLam at the start/beginning) - tODaya mangaLam - the artists seek the blessings of the lord before starting the performance. It’s very popular with dancers of many styles, including the Kalakshetra style of bharatanATyam.
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p-38?
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vAziya senthamizh was a popular mangaLam piece in most MS concerts, i thought
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Vazhiya senthamizh - Barathy poem- was set in Chenchurutti ragam- a favourite of Smt.MS.
A fine and brief orchestration ( S.V.Venkataraman ?) transition from Chenchurutti to Madhyamavathi- leds to the final and closing lines in Madhyamavathi.
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vAziya senthamizh was a popular mangaLam piece in most MS concerts, i thought
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Vazhiya senthamizh - Barathy poem- was set in Chenchurutti ragam- a favourite of Smt.MS.
A fine and brief orchestration ( S.V.Venkataraman ?) transition from Chenchurutti to Madhyamavathi- leds to the final and closing lines in Madhyamavathi.
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Maitreem bhajata is a mangaLam song too, even if it doesn't have the word in it.
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Adding on to the list:Lakshman wrote: ↑07 Jul 2005, 01:28 Here are the mangaLams (only the ones starting with jaya mangaLam or mangaLam) from my list. There must be many many others like shrI rAmacandranukku by Arunachalakavi. Some songs may be duplicates (rAgAs will be different).
Jaya mangala nitya shubhamangala/mangalavu--Dhanyasi--Jhampa--Purandaradasa
Jaya mangala nitya shubhamangala/mangalavu - Shri - Adi - Purandaradasa
Jaya mangalam - Asaveri - Adi--A.P.Haran
Jaya mangalam - Bhairavi - Jhampa - Yogindradasa
Jaya mangalam - Bhairavi - Jhampa - Jagannathavithaladasa
Jaya mangalam - Bhairavi - Jhampa - Vadirajasvami
Jaya mangalam - Kambhoji - Jhampa - Jagannathavithaladasa
Jaya mangalam - Madhyamavati--K/Chapu - Chennakeshaviah
Jaya mangalam (tar) - Madhyamavati - Jhampa--Narayana Tirtha
Jaya mangalam - Madhyamavati - Jhampa - Vadirajasvami
Jaya mangalam - Mukhari - Adi - Vadirajasvami
Jaya mangalam (tar) - Punnagavarali - Jhampa--Narayana Tirtha
Jaya mangalam - Purvi - Eka - Kanakadasa
Jaya mangalam - Surati - Rupaka--Chitravina N.Ravikiran
Jaya mangalam kuri devargal kondadinar naya - Shahana - Adi--Nilakantha Shivan
Jaya mangalam nitya shubhamangala/sachidananda - Bhairavi - Chapu - Purandaradasa
Jaya mangalam nitya shubhamangalam - Saurashtra - Jhampa - Shripadaraya
Jaya mangalam nitya shubhamangalam - Surati - Adi - Purandaradasa
Jaya mangalam nitya shubhamangalam adi madhya - Todi - Chapu--Venkatesha Ayya
Jaya mangalam nitya shubhamangalam/adaravu - Madhyamavati - Jhampa--Lakshmi Krishna
Jaya mangalam nitya shubhamangalam/ayanamaran - Bhairavi - Chapu - Parankushadasar
Jaya mangalam nitya shubhamangalam/haruvaga - Begada - Jhampa - Mohanavithaladasa
Jaya mangalam nitya shubhamangalam/indira - Bhairavi - Jhampa - Sarangapani
Jaya mangalam nitya shubhamangalam/indivara - Bhairavi - Jhampa - Purandaradasa
Jaya mangalam nitya shubhamangalam/indivara - Dhanyasi--K/Chapu - Purandaradasa
Jaya mangalam nitya shubhamangalam/indivara - Madhyamavati - Jhampa - Purandaradasa
Jaya mangalam nitya shubhamangalam/jagam pugazh - Surati - Adi--R.Parthasarathy Iyengar
Jaya mangalam nitya shubhamangalam/jayajaya - Vasanta - Adi--Muttiah Bhagavatar
Jaya mangalam nitya shubhamangalam/kamala - Punnagavarali--K/Chapu--Shahji Maharaja
Jaya mangalam nitya shubhamangalam/karuna - Madhyamavati - Jhampa - Tyagaraja
Jaya mangalam nitya shubhamangalam/karunakara - Ghanta - Jhampa - Tyagaraja
Jaya mangalam nitya shubhamangalam/kasturika - Punnagavarali - Adi - Vijayagopalasvami
Jaya mangalam nitya shubhamangalam/ma kulamunaku - Surati - Adi - Tyagaraja
Jaya mangalam nitya shubhamangalam/mangalam ananda - Bhairavi - Ata - Purandaradasa
Jaya mangalam nitya shubhamangalam/mangalam avani - Nadanamakriya - Adi - Tyagaraja
Jaya mangalam nitya shubhamangalam/mangalam chitsabha - Dhanyasi - Jhampa - Ramakavi
Jaya mangalam nitya shubhamangalam/mangalam mangala - Mohana - Jhampa - Tyagaraja
Jaya mangalam nitya shubhamangalam/mangalam - Dhanyasi - Chapu--Bhadrachalam Ramdas
Jaya mangalam nitya shubhamangalam/mangalam - Gauri - Jhampa--Narayana Tirtha
Jaya mangalam nitya shubhamangalam/molaga - Ghanta - Chapu--Shahji Maharaja
Jaya mangalam nitya shubhamangalam/shobane - Ghanta - Jhampa--Talpakkam Chinniah
Jaya mangalam nitya shubhamangalam/vanarendrana - Mukhari - Ata - Purandaradasa
Jaya mangalamu niku sarveshvara niku jala - Madhyamavati - Annamacharya
Jaya mangalamu niku sarveshvara niku jala - Surati - Annamacharya
Jaya mangalamu - Gundakriya - Annamacharya
Mangalam arul shri gajamukhane karunalaya jaya - Shri - Rupaka--Papanasham Shivan
Mangalam arulvai shivane mangalam - Yamunakalyani - Adi - Tamizhannaidasan
Mangalam arulvai - Ritigaula - Adi--A.P.Haran
Mangalam bhavate - Saurashtra - Chapu--Ratnakara Tirtha
Mangalam bhavatu te bharata janani - Hamirkalyani - Rupaka--Mayuram Vishvanatha Shastri
Mangalam bhavatu te matanga vadana jaya - Kamavardhini--K/Chapu--Muttiah Bhagavatar
Mangalam bhujaga shayino - Yadukulakambhoji - Rupaka--Svati Tirunal
Mangalam chitsabha nathaya shambhave mangalam - Gauri - Jhampa--?
Mangalam giri tanaye mangalam karunanta - Madhyamavati - Chapu - Balamuralikrishna
Mangalam guruda - Kamavardhini - Ata - Jagannathavithaladasa
Mangalam jaya devaki bala - Surati - Adi--Rajam Sitaram
Mangalam jaya mangalam mangalam shubha mangalam - Saurashtra - Adi - Purandaradasa
Mangalam jaya mangalam - Purvi - Adi - Kanakadasa
Mangalam jaya mangalam - Vasanta - Adi - Purandaradasa
Mangalam jaya mangalam/mukutake - Surati - Adi - Purandaradasa
Mangalam jaya mangalam/sagara - Surati - Adi - Purandaradasa
Mangalam jaya - Madhyamavati - Adi--Nerur Shrinivasachar
Mangalam jaya - Nadanamakriya - Adi - Vadirajasvami
Mangalam jaya - Bhairavi--Jhampa - Purandaradasa
Mangalam jaya - Saurashtra - Triputa - Purandaradasa
Mangalam jayamangalam malaradi - Surati - Adi--D.Pattammal
Mangalam jayamangalam mamava raja matangi jaya jaya - Vasanta - Adi--Ambi Dikshitar
Mangalam jayamangalam mangalam shubha/sangati yati - Shri - Chapu--Chitravina N.Ravikiran
Mangalam jayamangalam - Vasanta - Adi--Subbarama Dikshitar
Mangalam kausalyattava shelvan raghukula - Yaman - Rupaka--T.R.Vaidishvaran
Mangalam kshira - Dhavalambari - Eka - Vadirajasvami
Mangalam kumaresha - Surati - Adi--?
Mangalam mal maruganukku - Kamavardhini - Adi--Nilakantha Shivan
Mangalam mangalam mahadeva mangalam gauri ramana - Surati - Chapu--?
Mangalam mangalam minakshi te jaya - Ragamalika - Rupaka--Krishnasvami Ayya
Mangalam mangalam santatavu mangalam murtige - Madhyamavati - Adi--Flute H.Narasinga Rao
Mangalam mangalam - Hindustanikapi - Adi - Purandaradasa
Mangalam mangalam - Madhyamavati - Adi--N.S.Chidambaram
Mangalam mangalam - Surati - Adi - Gopalavithaladasa
Mangalam mangalame dinam dinam mangalam - Shri - Adi--Murugadasar(Dandapani svami)
Mangalam mangalame shankaranukku - Surati--T/Laghu--A.S.Lakshmi Ammal
Mangalam mayil vahana kumaranukku - Surati - Adi--Kotishvara Iyer
Mangalam om shri ramaya - Mangalakaishiki - Adi--C.S.Shivaramakrishna Bhagavatar
Mangalam paramatmanarani jaya - Surati - Adi - Chennakeshaviah
Mangalam ponga vendum tai nattil - Surati - Adi--K.S.Rangachari
Mangalam pongidum mavur valar devi va va haran - Mand - Adi--Muttiah Bhagavatar
Mangalam porundiya - Nata - Jhampa--Orappuli Ayya Bhagavatar
Mangalam pradhana marutake - Saurashtra - Chapu - Vijayavithaladasa
Mangalam radhika mukha kamala madhupaya - Ghanta - Jhampa--?
Mangalam radhika ramanaya shrimate - Dhanyasi - Chapu - Vijayagopalasvami
Mangalam rukmini ramanaya shrimate (tar) - Ghanta - Jhampa--Narayana Tirtha
Mangalam sher sholai mamalai meviya - Manji - Rupaka--Kavi Kunjara Bharati
Mangalam shri gopala hariki govinduniki - Surati - Adi--Annur S.Krishnamurti
Mangalam shri ramunaku shubha mangalam - Vasanta - Adi--Mysore Sadashiva Rao
Mangalam shri rangaraja - Hamsadhvani - Adi--Ratnakara Tirtha
Mangalam shri rangarajapate - Kedara - Adi--Ranganayaki Ammal
Mangalam shri sundareshaya shuline - Bhairavi - Chapu--?
Mangalam shri tyageshaya mangalam - Surati - Adi--Shahji Maharaja
Mangalam shri - Surati - Adi--Bellary Sheshagiriachar
Mangalam shri - Madhyamavati - Eka--Vidyaprasanna Tirtha
Mangalam shri - Manirangu - Jhampa - Vadirajasvami
Mangalam shri - Nadanamakriya - Chapu - Purandaradasa
Mangalam shri--Svayambhusvara raga - Triputa--Vina Shivaramiah
Mangalam shubha mangalam madura natharkku - Surati - Adi--D.Pattammal
Mangalam shubha mangalam marutinuta ramuniki - Manirangu - Rupaka--R.Venugopal
Mangalam taruvai - Phalamanjari--K/Rupaka--Chitravina N.Ravikiran
Mangalam tava - Chenjuruti - Adi--Anantakrishna Sharma
Mangalam tiru naranane muttu shelva pillaiye - Chenjuruti - Adi--?
Mangalam vandadalli sangasukhali deyanale (sh) - Kashiramakriya--C/Matya--?
Mangalam - Mohana - Adi--Chitravina N.Ravikiran
Mangalam - Surati - Adi - Purandaradasa
Mangalamai vazhgha ulagellam van karunai - Surati - Adi--Shuddhananda Bharati
Mangalame shubha mangalame jaya - Saurashtra - Adi--Periasami Tooran
Mangalamu gananatha mangalamu gajavadana - Sindhubhairavi--K/Chapu - Balamuralikrishna
Mangalamu shubhamangalamu (d)--?--?--Merattur Venkatrama Shastri
Mangalamu - Surati--K/Chapu - Balamuralikrishna
Mangalanam mangalam - Madhyamavati - Adi--V.Subramaniam
1. aṁbujadaḷākṣakē maṅgaḷa -suraṭi - ādi - kanakadāsa( aṅkiḍa -kāgineḷeyādi)
2. śailajāta nāyakāya jaya maṅgaḷam -suraṭi- ādi -tarigoṇḍa vēṅkamamba
3. maṅgaḷamu gōvindunaku jaya- madhyamāvati - ādi - tāḷḷapākka annāmācārya