FAMOUS RAGAMALIKAS OF 'PLATE MUSIC ERA' ( 1940-1952)

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We had a separate topic on Tamil CM songs in about 100 ragams of the 'plate-music' era. Ragamalikas were not included as each song was supposed to be a sort of quick reference to a ragam for learners.
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However, that decade was very creative in giving us pure gems of ragamalikas. in plates. MS, NCV, DKP and even GNB gave quite a few. ragamalika songs in plates. I am avoiding any mention about film songs. Smt.MS was a leader in that! Unfortunately, those old gems are all copyright stuff and we can only give the names of the songs here. Rasikas cannot find them either in youtube or in soundcloud ( copy right). A pity.
Here is a list of Ragamalika plates of Smt.MS ( from 1940 to 1953)
1) enakkunniru padam ninaikka எனக்குன்னிருபதம்நினைக்க
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2) mAlaip pozhuthinile oru nAL ..மாலைப்பொழுதினிலே.
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3) thavamum palitthathammaa &தவமும் பலித்ததம்மா
deivath thamizh nAttinile தெய்வத்தமிழ்நாட்டினிலே
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4) yAmarintha mozhikaLile யாமறிந்த மொழிகளிலே
5) oLi padaittha kaNNinAy vaa vaa vaa ஒளிபடைத்தகண்ணினாய்!...
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6) mAnilatthai vaazhavaikka மாநிலத்தை வாழவைக்க ...
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7) mudiyondri moovulaknagalum முடியொன்றிமூவுலகங்களும்
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and finally the supreme masterpiece
8) vadavaraiyai matthaakki வடவரையைமத்தாக்கி
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Oli Padaittha Kanninai was not a raga malika

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vineyan wrote: 07 Aug 2019, 16:08 Oli Padaittha Kanninai was not a raga malika
Yes it was
The old gems M S recording cassette version had at least 3 ragas
Ilaya baaradaitinaal va va va is 100% diff raga from oli padaitta

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can 'en pallikondirayya' be included ?

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ajaysimha wrote: 07 Aug 2019, 19:00 can 'en pallikondirayya' be included ?
Sri.Ajay,
I am not sure. It is in Mohanam, I believe, as sung by NCV.
You would love this blog post on the song at
http://krithis-theirmeanings-thestories ... chala.html

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HarishankarK wrote: 07 Aug 2019, 17:52
vineyan wrote: 07 Aug 2019, 16:08 Oli Padaittha Kanninai was not a raga malika
Yes it was
The old gems M S recording cassette version had at least 3 ragas
Ilaya baaradaitinaal va va va is 100% diff raga from oli padaitta
The song has four stanzas. The first two are in KalyANi. The next two are in Kapi, I think. Will be thankful for correct information.

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Smt.D.K.PattammaaL, gave three absolute gems.
1) chinnanchiru kiliye kaNNamma ( Barathy) சின்னஞ்சிறு கிளியே
https://youtu.be/WGk1nkqodf0
https://sites.google.com/site/dkpattamm ... -kannam-ma ( ragam information by Dr.Pasupathy)
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2) theerAdha viLaiyaattup pillai (Barathy)
https://sites.google.com/site/dkpattamm ... ttu-pillai
( music by Sudharsanam.. Film vedhaLa ulakam. Too nice a song , to be excluded, as occuring in a film.
(sindhubairavi, kamaaj, shanmugapriya and maand)

3) velan varuvaaradi வேலன் வருவாரடி
may be available in youtube.
https://sites.google.com/site/dkpattamm ... aruvaaradi
Not all the stanzas might have been sung by her. Information about the lyricist, actual stanzas sung and ragam of those stanzas will be most welcome.

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Thoondir puzhuvinaippol
DKP
Sahana and Sama ragas coming one after the other

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Viritha senjadayada by Musiri Subramania Iyer

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Wanted to avoid any songs from films of those years but cannot !
Smt.MS again ... the only ragamalika in Tamil film 'Meera' (1945).
a viruttham .
உடல் உருக உள்ளம் உருக
udal uruga uLLam uruga ( poorvikalyaNi, sahaanaa, NadhaNaamakriya)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQ86wZHgYJ0
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Smt. N.C.Vasanthakokilam
1) piLLaip pirAyatthile ( Subramanya Barathy) a song on Saraswathi
( Tilang(?), Beemplas, Kamaj).. பிள்ளைப் பிராயத்திலே
2) sanga naadham ketkuthu , saantha Gandhi sathiyatthin
சங்க நாதம் கேட்குது-சாந்த காந்தி சத்தியத்தின்
சங்க நாதம் கேட்குது
(lyrics- Namakkal Ramalingam PiLLai). Absolutely divine song!

3) Have to include a film song ..( krishna vijayam-1950)
பொறுமைக்கடல் பூமாதேவி .ராக மாலிகை
Bilahari,Neelambari, Bhairavi,Shankarabharanam,Thodi,
Pantuvaraali,Mohanam,Sree Ragam,Anandhabhairavi and
Hamsnaadham.
https://sites.google.com/site/ncvasanth ... hnavijayam

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People of that generation may remember at least two very popular ragamalikas of GNB in tamizh.
1) sonnadhaich cheythida sAhasamA , ( discussed in GNB thread..Ragams have been mentioned.
சொன்னதைச் செய்திட ஸாகஸமா கிளியே
'ennennamo solli ennai mayakkivittu , the 4th in Maand is really mayakkum stanza!
(Rags: Vandanadharini,
Devamanohari(Kannimadam Thenil),
Jayanthasri(Thannilai Thadumari),
Maund
(Ennannamo Solli).

viewtopic.php?f=11&t=6769&p=354067#p354067
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2) dikku theriyaadha kaattil ( Barathy)
திக்குத் தெரியாத காட்டில்
(ref: sujamusic blog)
the ragas the song has been set to, each verse infused with its own mood. Behag, Revagupti, , Kuntalavarali , Sahana. Kapi , Paras.
A gem of a song.
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One more from Smt.MS
From the film (1940) 'Sakunthalai' ( starring Smt.MS)
manam kuLira , uLLam kuLira மனம் குளிர ,உள்ளம் குளிர
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https://youtu.be/O_Eg4h4OXiQ
It was in 3 ragas pantuvarALi, mOhanam and the third one was dhanyAsi.
(SEE ragas-danyasi posts) (clarification by SrinathK)
lyrics in tamizh also given there.
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ratanabhinav wrote: 08 Aug 2019, 16:07 Viritha senjadayada by Musiri Subramania Iyer
https://www.jiosaavn.com/song/viritha-s ... ScEU0JZWGQ
It will be nice, if we can know the ragas used

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the ragas are anandabhairavi, bilahari, shanmukhapriya and mohanam

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vElan varuvAnaDi is by Anayampatti ADisesha Iyer. It is now sung in rAgamAlikA but the rAgA specified in the book is SaNmukhapriyA. Here are the complete lyrics:

vElan varuvAraDi. rAgA: SaNmukhapriyA. Adi tALA. Anayampatti Adisesha Iyer.

1: vElan varuvAraDi vaDivElan varuvAraDi vaLLi mEl mOham konDu vEDanAi vandAradi
2: mAnODi vandadanAl nAnoDi vandEnenru vAnOngum tinayil manmathanAl malaittha vaDi
3: mangai manad-arindu engum toDarndalainduvEnghai maramAgi Ongi vaLarnda vaDi
4: panDAramAi shivanai konDADiyE amudu unDODI enrOdi mandrADi ninra vaDi
5: tEnum tinai mAvum unDu tAngAda vikkal konDu kUnum nimirndu konDu kAvi uDutta vaDi
6: vanjiyarin kai piDittu kuLak-karaiyil kenji karai Erikonjum mozhi nangaiyuDan in shol purinda vaDi
7: aNNan aruLAl kurap-peNNai maNakka venrueNNit-tuditta thiruk-kaNNan kondADum vaDi
8: yAnai maruTTi tinaik-kAnil viraTTamaDa mAnai magizhciyuDan mArbOD-aNaitta vaDi
9: nambiyavar tudikka nAradar Anandirukka anbirkk-ughanda mayil ADap-paNiyADa vaDi
10: vaLLiyarait-taDuttu mella mellavE aDuttu vil ambum kai piDittu (tan) vallamai shonna vaDi


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@16-> Lakshman_ji, Thank you. Permit me to add the transliterated lyrics to my web-page
https://sites.google.com/site/dkpattamm ... aruvaaradi
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soundcloud link
https://soundcloud.com/archive-of-india ... varuvaradi
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https://youtu.be/axLeknxr7hg


I need ragam information for the stanzas.
as sung by DKP only.
Best Regards.
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@Lakshman
A typo :
1: vandAradi - vandAraDi

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Thanks PB.

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Lakshman wrote: 17 Aug 2019, 02:00 vElan varuvAnaDi is by Anayampatti ADisesha Iyer. It is now sung in rAgamAlikA but the rAgA specified in the book is SaNmukhapriyA. Here are the complete lyrics:

vElan varuvAraDi. rAgA: SaNmukhapriyA. Adi tALA. Anayampatti Adisesha Iyer.

1: vElan varuvAraDi vaDivElan varuvAraDi vaLLi mEl mOham konDu vEDanAi vandAradi
2: mAnODi vandadanAl nAnoDi vandEnenru vAnOngum tinayil manmathanAl malaittha vaDi

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A vetran has suggested the following ragams for the song.
ஷண்முகப்ரியா, காம்போதி, ஸரஸ்வதி, பிலஹரி, ஸாவேரி, கேதாரகௌளை, காபி, தன்யாசி,மோகனம்.
(shanmugapriyA, Kkambodhi, saraswathi, bilahari ,
sAveri, kedaaragowla, kaapi, dhayasi, mohanam)
He too has given the name of the composer as
Anayanpatti Adisesha Iyer ( Sadhu Guhananda) .

Esteemed rasikas are requested to give their input about the ragams.
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viewtopic.php?f=12&t=27312&start=125#p354456
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Dr.Pasupathy has given a nice link to a video on 'purumaikkadal boomadevi' ragamalika in krushna vijayam film by N.C.Vsanthakokilam ( 1950).
Must see and save video... with lyrics lines and ragam information.
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also see
https://sites.google.com/site/ncvasanth ... hnavijayam

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@20->
SrinathK has concurred with the ragams given except the first stanza.
It is JONPURI instead of shanmugapriya.
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(JONPURI, Kkambodhi, saraswathi, bilahari ,
sAveri, kedaaragowla, kaapi, dhanyasi, mohanam)
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jOnpuri (velan varuvAraDi), வேலன் வருவாரடி
kAmbhOji (mAnODi), மானோடி வந்ததனால்
sarasvati (mangai manad-arindhu)மங்கை மனதறிந்து
bilahari (panDAramAna sivanai)பண்டாரமாய் சிவனை
sAvEri (tEnum tinai mAvum)தேனும் தினைமாவும்
kEdAra gauLa (vanjiyarin kai piDittu)வஞ்சியரின் கைபிடித்து
kApi (aNNan aruLAl) அண்ணனருளால்
dhanyAsi (yAnai mAruti thinai)யானை மருட்டி தினைக் கானில் விரட்ட
mOhanam (nambiyavar tudikka)நம்பியவர் துதிக்க நாரதர் ஆனந்திக்க
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Lovely lyrics, tunes and great singing by DKP in her wonderful voice!

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Very happy to share a famous ragamaalikaa song from 1941 film Savithri in which Smt.MS acted as Naradhar and sang 5 songs. Only this song is a ragamaalikaa. 'sollu kuzhanthaay'. The stanza beginning with the lines 'paal vadiyum vadhanam ,,athile neelakkuRu Nayanam' brings out Shanmugapriya brilliantly.

https://youtu.be/rkWUB30-e3U

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ragam information by srinathK
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sAmA - opening
kalyANi - 1st charanam
kAmbhOji - 2nd charanam
shanmukhapriya - 3rd charanam
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26-8-2019

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Sentamizh nadennum podinile by MSS is sung as ragamalika

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ajaysimha wrote: 30 Aug 2019, 02:31 Sentamizh nadennum podinile by MSS is sung as ragamalika
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I am referring to the record back in the latter half of 1940-1950 decade. It is mostly in chenchurutti and the last stanza beginning with 'vaazhiya senthamizh' is in madhyamAvathi, if I am not mistaken.
https://youtu.be/0NTAU_jJvoY
It had 'yaamarintha mozhikalile ' in the reverse side.
It does not play in my browser now!
(some html5 format...notice!)

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aadu raattae ,suzhandraadu raatte by D.K.Pattammal in a famous documentary film on Gandhiji in 1940, by A.K.Chettiyar.
The lyrics in English transliteration have been already discussed in
viewtopic.php?t=2663
The lyrics in tamizh have been placed in
https://sites.google.com/site/dkpattamm ... du-raattae

The page gives the youtube link , tamil stanzas as sung, and the English transliteration already done in this forum for this poem.
Soon, ragam information of the stanzas sung by DKP will be given there. ( there are some conflicting information as yet and hence the delay) ( chenchurutti, punnaagavaraaLi, NadhaNamkriyaa )?))
பட்டணத்து வீதிகளில் சுற்றி அலைந்து -மிகப்
பாடுபடும் கிராமத்துப் பத்தினிப் பெண்கள்
இஷ்டமுடன் தன குடிசை நிழலில் இருந்து -
நூல் இழைத்துப் பிழைப்பார் என்று ஆடு ராட்டே
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This was a song rendered in background, by Smt.DKP, for the first and famous documentary film by A.K.Chettiyar , on Gandhiji. in 1940.
---------A fine write-up on A.K.Chettiyar and this documenrtary film by A.R.Venkatachalapathy, is given at ( in tamizh)
https://sites.google.com/site/rsrshares ... tacalapati

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i also got reminded of manju nigar - kavadi chindu in ragamalika format.
one version by mss and the other version is by dr r ramanathan (not sure if was from 1940 to 1952 period)

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A grand poem by Subramanya Barathy sung by Smt.D.K.Pattammal in the memorable film 'VAAZHKKAI'. The bonus is a graceful dance number by Vijayanthimala ( her first film!) ...'Baratha Samudhayam Vazhkave'..
The ragams are to be confirmed soon. பாரத சமுதாயம் வாழ்கவே - பாரதி- ஸ்ரீமதி டி.கே.பட்டம்மாள் (திரைப்படம்-வாழ்க்கை )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqPvDPrM3Ik
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lyrics in tamizh
https://sites.google.com/site/dkpattamm ... samudhayam
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@28-> lyrics in English transliteration for the song by Barathy and sung by dkp.
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bAratha samuthAyam vAzhkave
jaya jaya
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muppathu kodi janagaLin sangam
muzhumaikkum pothuvudamai
oppilaatha samuthaayam
ulakathhukku oru puthumai
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manithar uNvai manithar paRikkum
vazhakkam ini undoa?
manithar noka manithar paarkkum
vaazhkkai ini undoa?
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ini oru vithi seyvoam -athai
entha NaaLum kaappoam
thani oruvanukku uNavillai enil
jakatthinai azhitthiduvom
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ellorum oar kulam,
ellorum oar inam,
ellorum oar nirai
ellorum oar vilai
ellorum iNNaattu mannar aam
elloarum iNNaattu mannar -vaazhka
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baaratha samuthaayam vaazhkave!

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A fine upload of N.C.Vasanthakokilam record. Gyana Guruparane..Ragamalika . Ragams are given as
Shankarabharanam, Simhendramadhyamam, Kanada
Bonus as slides giving biography of NCV

https://youtu.be/MwoxDM-SOPs

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This is a very rare record by N.C.Vasanthakokilam, in the film Krushnavijayam, 1950. Sadly, she passed away in 1951 due to illness. She was just 31 then. This was the last of her six films in the decade 1940-1950. Most of her film songs were in chaste carnatic ragams. The lyrics and music for the song were by Papanasam Sivan. NCV acted as Naradhar in this film. and sang two great ragamalikas. Randor Guy is all praise for her music in this film.
The song is 'Ayar maNaiyil mAyan vaLarnthu' . The full tamizh lyrics with transliteration will be given in NCVsanthakokilam thread in musicians section. in a day. (karaharapriya, kedaaragowLa, ataaNaa,harikambodhi,chenchurutti, behag, sriranjani and kathanakuthookalam ).
https://sites.google.com/site/4mp3files ... aniyil.mp3


https://youtu.be/HQFudOhg67w

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Ayar maNaiyile
mAyan vaLarnthu viLaiyAdum vindaien solven!
petra thaayinum antha yasodhai ,parinthu seeraatti ,thaalaatta balakrushnan kamsan muthal ulakirku imsai sey kodiyavarai karuvarukka thakka tharuNam paartthukkondu
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kanavilum kaNNan Ninaivaal kalanginaan kamsan.
gana iruLaik kaNNAdiyaik kaaNum thorum, anji nadunginaan. -sabaithanil oru NaaL
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"enathu vairi kittan endra peyarudan engo marainthu vaLarkindraanaam
iruLinum kaRu niRatthirudan
avanaik kondru vanthaalum -uyirudan kondu vanthaalum avaraik koNdaaduvaen "endraan.
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kumbalil Nee munthi-Naan munthi endru pala kuraludan aartthezhunthaar kodum asurar.
gora sakadaasuran, kuruvi bagaasuran vathsan,vrushabaasuran, denukan, arishtan, kesi, pralamban kaaliyaNudan boothaNai
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mella mella nandagopan aranmaNaikkul pukunthu
malark kaNNanai kandAL
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Nanjalaintha perunthanatthaaL,
yadhu naayakanaik kollum manatthaaL
vanjanaiyaal kaiyil edutthaaL
maNivaNNan vaaythiranthu nakaitthaan
baalakrishnan boothaNaip peyin mulaip paaludan, avaL aaviyaik kuditthaan.
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kattina uralai izhutthuk kondu
kaNNan iraNdu marutha mara naduvil thavazhnthaan.
vetti muRitthathupol
maram iraNdum verudan veezha
yaman-arjunar
paNinthaar.

kaalil sathangai konja -
mudiyil mayil peeliyum oLi veesa -thirumeni muzhuthum puzhuthialainthodi
yasodhayin mele saayntha baalagopaalanthanai
aNNan balaraanan "ammaa! ivan maNNai vaari uNdaan ' endraan.
kaNNan anjuvaan pola
nakarnthaan
annai cinanthu "un vaay thiRa" endraaL.
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maadhavan pavaLa vaay thiranthaan.
maathaa athaik kandu kaNkal maruNdaaL.
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AnDa charaacharangaL angu kaNdaaL!
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RSR wrote: 15 Sep 2019, 22:04 A fine upload of N.C.Vasanthakokilam record. Gyana Guruparane..Ragamalika . Ragams are given as
Shankarabharanam, Simhendramadhyamam, Kanada
Bonus as slides giving biography of NCV

https://youtu.be/MwoxDM-SOPs
A new find for me. It is Sankarabharanam ragam and Pallavi, Ragamalika swarams. Thanks RSR.

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@CRama
Respected Sir,
Thank you for the observation. Is there any special name for that type of song? A ragamalika should have lyrics for each stanza 's ragam. If there are no lyrics for the subsequent ragams but swaram only, what is the name for that? Is it the same as the practice in some RTP? Can it be an RTP pallavi in just 9 minutes? Is it very special then? Kindly enlighten me.

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Here is a ragamalika by G.N.B. ---kaNNanaik kaaNpatheppo
rAgamAlikai -
HamsAnandi / nAttakkurinji / shuddhadanyAsi/Abhogi
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https://youtu.be/soLhyudEyJU
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The lyrics have an unexpected and humorous twist in the last line!
(gist:- A lady-devotee of Lord Krishna, had created a fragrant and beautiful garland of flowers for him. And delicious delicacies to feed him. It has been ages since He visited. She writes a complaint letter and invitation and sends it through her maid . who assures her to deliver it at once. But , she comes after a very long delay , that too just to say that the Lord is not free now.!
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(tamizh lyrics provided by
varakooraan NaaraayaNan
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kaNNanaik kANpatheppo-
kArmeka vaNNanukku en mel enna veruppo!
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viNNavarum paNiyum veNu vilolan
maNNai aLantha vaayan mAyan gopAlan
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puNNiyan vanthu poy
pozhuthu mikavkuthu
kaNNirandum pootthuk
kavalai uNdaakuthu
eNNI eNNIi en manam
aengiye nokuthu
paNNina paNdamellam
payaninripokuthu
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jaathi mullai roja
sambangip ppo edutthu
aadhi antharakittan aNiya
maalai thodutthu
sethiyellaam varainthu
chediyidam kodutthu
chothikka vaendaam endru
solli thoothu vidutthu
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thaamatham illaamal thaathi
udane sendraaL , Nee
malaikkaamal
nimidam varen endraaL
jaama naeram pin
saavathaanamaay vanthaaL
shyaamalanaik kaaNa
samayam ithu illai endraaL

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tamizh lyrics lifted from the above link.
கண்ணனைக் காண்ப தெப்போ –
கார்மேக வண்ணனுக் கென்மேல் என்ன வெறுப்போ (கண்ணனை)
விண்ணவரும் பணியும் வேணுவி லோலன்
மண்ணளைந்த வாயன் மாயன் கோபாலன் (கண்ணனை)

புண்ணியன் வந்துபோய் பொழுது மிகவாகுது
கண்ணிரெண்டும் பூத்துக் கவலை உண்டாகுது
எண்ணியெண்ணி என்மனம் ஏங்கியே நோகுது
பண்ணின பண்டமெல்லாம் பயனின்றிப் போகுது
(கண்ணனை)

ஜாதிமுல்லை ரோஜா சம்பங்கிப் பூவெடுத்து
ஆதியந்தரகித்தன் அணிய மாலை தொடுத்து
சேதியெல்லாம் வரைந்து சேடியிடம் கொடுத்து
சோதிக்க வேண்டாமென்று சொல்லித்தூது விடுத்து
(கண்ணனை)

தாமதம் இல்லாமல் தாதிஉடனே சென்றாள் நீ
மலைக்காமல் நிமிடம் வரேனென்றாள்
ஜாம நேரம்பின் சாவதானமாய் வந்தாள்
சியாமளனைக் காணச் சமயமிதில்லை என்றாள்

(கண்ணனை)
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aen paLLi kondeer aiyaa- by Arunachalak kavi- sung in mohanam and kapi?
ஏன் பள்ளீ கொண்டீரய்யா? ஸ்ரீ ரங்கனாதரே நீர்
This 78 RPM record is by N.C.VASANTHAKOKILAM
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https://youtu.be/w8t86GrQVlc
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tamil lyrics given at
https://sites.google.com/site/ncvasanth ... a--mohanam

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ref: p-1
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Saregama had released all Kalki songs as 'KaatRinile varum geetham'. It has all the 78 rpm classics by Smt.MS .
and placed them in public domain.
So, we can share all those great and sweet songs mostly set to music by S.V.Venkataraman
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Here is one of the two songs on Subramany Barathy.
'Dheyvath thamizh Naattinile veNNilaave'
A ragamalika having four ragas.
jonpuri,
desh,
peelu,
chenchurutti

https://sites.google.com/site/homage2ms ... aattinilae

The lovely poem by Kalki in Thamizh script , is given in the page.
We can download and preserve them.
https://sites.google.com/site/homage2ms ... aattinilae

1) ஜோன்புரி
தெய்வத்தமிழ் நாட்டினிலே , வெண்ணிலாவே !
நாங்கள் வீரமின்றிப்பேதையர்போல் வாழ்ந்திருந்தோம்!
ஏதும் செய்வதறியாதிருந்த .போதினிலே
ஒரு சிங்க நாதம் கேட்டெழுந்தோம், வெண்ணிலாவே !

2) தேஷ்
இருளடைந்த நாடிதென்று எவரோ சொன்னார் !
அந்த இழிவும் ஒரு பெருமை என்று எண்ணி வாழ்ந்தோம்!
நல்ல அறிவொளியால் இருளகற்ற ஒருவர் வந்தார்!
இதை அமரர் நாடென்றறிந்தோம் , வெண்ணிலாவே!

3) பீலு
கங்கைஎனப்பொங்கிவரும் தண்தமிழினில்
நல்ல கவிதை பல புனைந்தளித்தார் , வெண்ணிலாவே!
வெற்றி சங்கம் ஊதி முரசறைந்து எழுக என்றார் !
இந்த தரணியில் நமக்கு நிகர் இல்லையென்றார்

4) செஞ்சுருட்டி
கவியரசர் பாரதியின் கவிதையின்பம் உந்தன் கதிரொளியில் காண்பதென்ன ?...வெண்ணிலாவே!
இந்தபுவியில் நீயும் தமிழனென பிறந்ததுண்டோ !
அவர் புதுமைக்கவி மதுவருந்தி மகிழ்ந்ததுண்டோ!

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This is the second song written by Kalki on the immortal Barathy.
This is a Ragamalika of three nice ragams. Rendered by Smt.M.S.Subbulakshmi.
'Bliss was it in the dawn to be alive,
but to be young was very Heaven'
In the years before 1947, the song used to be played in every street of Tamilnad in loud speakers!
The song rendered by Smt.MS with unmatched ever, feeling and other niceties. The music director was, of course, S.V.Venkataraman
Note how Smt.MS renders the line ' bhuvanam viyanthida, amuthath thamizhinil, ..(repeat) bhuvanam viyanthida amuthath 'thamizhinil
- nava navaamy kavi aruLiya punitharin, thavamum palitthathamma
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https://sites.google.com/site/homage2ms ... thathammaa

The ragams are Shanmugapriya, PoorvikalyaaNi and Simmendra Madhyamam.(KeervaaNi.?)

Those who have familiarity with the MeLakartha scheme can easily note the fine shift and common notes of these three ragams.
This is not Sruthi Baedam but brilliant choice of ragams , creating the impression of weaving a garland....a literal meaning of raga malika

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Here is anoter gem of a Ragamalika of plate music era.
The poem is by KALKI , tuned most probably by S.V.Venkataraman, and sung by , who else?, the nightingale of India, Smt.M.S.Subbulakshmi
. 'Maalaip pozhuthile oru Naal;'
It can easily rank among the best of poems.
It came out in 1942 and Smt.MS was 26 then.
Her voice was absolutely divine in the period 1940- 1956.
( This is one of the songs in Saregama release 'Kaatrinile varum geetham' and it has been donated to youtube by Saregama recently So no copyright infringement)
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The Thamizh lyrics have been given.
It should be
' vaalaik Kumaran maru il
maamathi pol mukatththaaan
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The ragams are
Chenchurutti
Behag
Sindhu Bairavi
Mohanam
NaadhaNaamakriya
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https://sites.google.com/site/homage2ms ... huthinilae
Just six minutes. Note the instrumental beginning in Chechurutti and then in Sindhubairavi, just a few seconds. Sheer magic.

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https://sites.google.com/site/homage2ms ... ozhikallae

A ragamalika - begins with Shanmugapriya
Lyrics by Subramany Baarathi
sung by
Smt.M.S.Subbulakshmi
The lyrics in Thamizh are given in the page

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https://sites.google.com/site/homage2ms ... lakangalum

Smt.M.S.Subbulakshmi
Chenchurutti, PunnaagavaraaLi, Karaharapriya and Sindhubairavi
Music composed most probably by S.V.Venkataraman

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https://youtu.be/NHwXWwHgt5o

Here is rama charithra ragamalika by DKP amma.

I guess this is one of the recording from plate music era.

This is not heard much outside.

Could anyone share the lyrics and any other information associated with it.

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p-42
@ajaysimha
I think the link will give the music and lyrics and info also.
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https://sites.google.com/site/dkpattamm ... gs/home/02
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RAMARAJYAM
D.K.PATTAMMAL SINGS THIS GREAT RAGAMALIKA SONG AS TITLE MUSIC IN THE FILM RAMARAJYAM -PRODUCED BY AVM AS A DUBBING OF MARATHI FILM.
WITH WONDERFUL SONGS.
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Sri.VEMBAR maNivaNNan has done a great service by placing this rare gem in youtube.
He specializes in sharing OLD GEMS OF THE 1940-1950 decade.
எனக்குன் இரு பதம் நினைக்க வரமருள்வாய் - ஸ்ரீ ராமச்சந்த்ரா
https://youtu.be/1H3K_88l7rc?t=28
vembar manivannan upload
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please see the next post also.
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enakkun irupadham Ninaikka varam aruLvaay Sri Ramachandra
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This is the song referred to in the previous post.
It was a 78 rpm record given by Smt.M.S.Subbulakshmi sometime before 1938
https://sites.google.com/site/homage2ms ... iru-patham

Tentative ragam information has been given in that page.
We can get information about Ramarajyam 1947 film from wiki

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Enakkun irupadham ninnaikka is a composition of Arunachala Kavirayar, originally composed in the raga Saurashtra. Perhaps, due to its theme, sung as ragamalika.
The ragas used in this kriti also seem to vary. The version starting from Kalyani and ending with Madhyamavathi seems to be popular. There exist an old version using the ragas Sankarabharanam, Kalyani, Todi, Kamas, Bhairavi, Atana, Kaanada, Mohanam, and Saurashtram.

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p-44
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ajaysimha's post was specific to the DKP song. It would help if the ragams of the stanzas 'as sung by DKP ' in that record are given.
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Sri.ARI would have tuned the song by Arunachala Kaviraayar. What were the ragams used by ARI? Has he rendered the song himself?
He should have. either as a plate or in concert.
Someone has given ragam information in the comments section of the upload cited by me. Rather confusing.
For people like me who learn ragams by listening to the songs ( without referring to any books) it would be great help.

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ajaysimha wrote: 08 May 2021, 19:43 https://youtu.be/NHwXWwHgt5o

Here is rama charithra ragamalika by DKP amma.

I guess this is one of the recording from plate music era.

This is not heard much outside.

Could anyone share the lyrics and any other information associated with it.
Thanks RSR for inputs,

you were mentioning about the ennakkum iru padam - ragamalika tamil song which was popularized by DKP amma which also go featured as movie song.

this was very the most liked ramayana themed song before bhavayami raghuramam came into picture.

but i was looking for the set of sanskrit shlokas that was sung in different ragams by DKP amma (link shared)

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p-46
@ajaysimha
Are you perhaps referring to
https://ia802807.us.archive.org/35/item ... mAlika.mp3

This would not ave been a 78 rpm record. ( may be a set however)
DKP website mentions this as from NarrayaNeeyam.
@CRama will be able to help
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You are right about the cited youtube link. It runs for 18 minutes. May have been a three record set.
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A friend has suggested the following ragas for the twenty stanzas in two dasakams.
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May be what you are searching for. ( allow for errors please)
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The entire Ramayanam sung in 20 slokhas.
Bowli, Bilahari, Dhanyasi, Kambodhi, Varali, Kanada, Kedaragowli, Mohanam, Saranga, Bhairavi, Neelambari, ( not able to identify), Atana, Vasantha, (15 16 trying,) Anandhabhairavi,( not able to), Madyamavathi, Suruti. in that order
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In the ragas section, we have NarayaNeeyam. May be Smt.DKP is rendering the slokams pertaining to Ramavatharam.
For ragam information and lyrics, CRama will be of help to you

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These slokas may be relevant.
https://guruvaayoorkshethram.blogspot.c ... ge_14.html
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https://guruvaayoorkshethram.blogspot.c ... ge_88.html

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RSR wrote: 21 May 2021, 18:00 p-46
@ajaysimha
Are you perhaps referring to
https://ia802807.us.archive.org/35/item ... mAlika.mp3

This would not ave been a 78 rpm record. ( may be a set however)
DKP website mentions this as from NarrayaNeeyam.
@CRama will be able to help
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You are right about the cited youtube link. It runs for 18 minutes. May have been a three record set.
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A friend has suggested the following ragas for the twenty stanzas in two dasakams.
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May be what you are searching for. ( allow for errors please)
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The entire Ramayanam sung in 20 slokhas.
Bowli, Bilahari, Dhanyasi, Kambodhi, Varali, Kanada, Kedaragowli, Mohanam, Saranga, Bhairavi, Neelambari, ( not able to identify), Atana, Vasantha, (15 16 trying,) Anandhabhairavi,( not able to), Madyamavathi, Suruti. in that order
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In the ragas section, we have NarayaNeeyam. May be Smt.DKP is rendering the slokams pertaining to Ramavatharam.
For ragam information and lyrics, CRama will be of help to you

=========================
These slokas may be relevant.
https://guruvaayoorkshethram.blogspot.c ... ge_14.html
----
https://guruvaayoorkshethram.blogspot.c ... ge_88.html
Thanks much @RSR ji, for taking efforts to write-down a detailed post on the tuned verses of ramayana verses from narayaneeyam as sung by DKP amma. this helps.

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Resuming after a long gap, here is Smt.D.K.P. RAAGAMAALIKAA of Baarathy's great poem. 'entaiyum thaayum malizhnthu kulaavi, irunthathum iNNaadae;.
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https://sites.google.com/site/dkpattamm ... um-thaayum

raagam information for the stanzas sung will be thankfully acknowledged.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXMaYZ6HioE
எந்தையும் தாயும் மகிழ்ந்து குலாவி,
இருந்ததும் இந்நாடே -அதன்
முந்தைய ஆயிரம் ஆண்டுகள் வாழ்ந்து
முடிந்ததும் இந்நாடே -அவர்
சிந்தையில் ஆயிரம் எண்ணம் வளர்ந்த
சிறந்ததும் இந்நாடே -இதை
வந்தனை கூறி மனதில் இருத்தி ,என்
வாயுற வாழ்த்தேனோ -இதை
வந்தே மாதரம், வந்தே மாதரம்
என்று வணங்கேனோ?
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Ragams used imho are:
1. Upto 1:00 min for
"எந்தையும் தாயும் மகிழ்ந்து குலாவி,
இருந்ததும் இந்நாடே -அதன்
முந்தைய ஆயிரம் ஆண்டுகள் வாழ்ந்து
முடிந்ததும் இந்நாடே -அவர்" - Patadeep
(Janya of 23rd mela )

2 Upto 1:50 - Bilahari ?
சிந்தையில் ஆயிரம் எண்ணம் வளர்ந்த
சிறந்ததும் இந்நாடே -இதை
வந்தனை கூறி மனதில் இருத்தி ,என்
வாயுற வாழ்த்தேனோ -இதை
வந்தே மாதரம், வந்தே மாதரம்
என்று வணங்கேனோ?

3. From 1:50-2:30 - sarasangi ??

4. Last 1min upto 3:31 - desh

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