T.R. Subramaniam

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prashant
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T.R. Subramaniam

Post by prashant »

TRS Mama's music has always fascinated me. His encyclopedic repertoire, solid patantaram imbibed from Musiri combined with his [for lack of a better word] 'unconventional' approach, and constantly amazing pallavi singing make him IMO one of the most fascinating vidwans to listen to especially for students of music. He's a great example of how to aesthetically and seamlessly integrate laya rigor into music.

His viruttam singing is also really exceptional. Hope to hear some clips of this great musician, especially some pallavis. Coolkarni Sir in another thread has posted his Bilahari RTP 'raghukula tilakuDai velasina rAmachandruDE mApAli dEvuDu sri' which was extremely enjoyable. Looking forward to more clips and discussion of Sri TRS's music.

coolkarni

Post by coolkarni »

In addition to the pallavi and viruttams, what i find enticing is the way he sings lesser known kritis and dasar padas, In fact I rate him as the finest exponent of dasar padas (based on whatever i have heard)
so here are three tracks in all the three categories.
http://rapidshare.de/files/7225710/trs-RTP-Ranjini.mp3

http://rapidshare.de/files/7232267/trs- ... Sahana.mp3

http://rapidshare.de/files/7232605/trs- ... alyani.mp3

cmlover
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Post by cmlover »

I was bowled over by that Ranjani RTP!

prashant
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Post by prashant »

What a superb Ranjani you have shared, Coolkarni Sir. Just downloading the other tracks now.

coolkarni

Post by coolkarni »

come on with all your feedback !!!!!
just let me know if this formula of rtp-lesser heard krithis-dasar padas will do.
i can organise myself and we can go through such sets of tracks, many times over

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Post by cmlover »

coolkarni

I did enjoy the dasar padas. But my understanding of those pieces and the cultural background is very limited. I am not competent to comment on the excellence simply because I have not heard much. Pardon me!
On the other hand that RTP is out of this world. His technique appears novel and unique. I would love to hear more of the rare RTPs by TRS if you have more of it. Now it is up to you :D

coolkarni

Post by coolkarni »

DRS
can we hope to have your attention (divided one though,since the odeyar thread is still on) on dasar padas here ,also ,pleeeease !!

prashant
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Post by prashant »

Yes, Dr. Shrikaanth would be the ideal person to comment on the rendition of the dasar pada.

One thing I enjoy in TRS Sir's pallavis is that on the surface they are very artithmetically simple in construction - but he manages to extract every nuance from them in a very pleasing and aesthetic manner. The best part is that tALa is maintained in an effortless, nonchalant way with no thigh-beating.

Perhaps if Sri Mohan Santhanam is reading this, he can share with us more valuable insights on his Guru's music.

Please do share more as and when possible, Coolkarni
Sir.

param
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Post by param »

Dear coolkarni,

I have started downloading the TRS RTPs and should be able to give you a feedback on Thursday - Trust this would be fine with you. Kindly confirm.


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Post by drshrikaanth »

Coolkarnni
I will pitch in with whatever I can. nIvu kELOdu heccO nAnu bareyOdu heccO!.

As I have mentioned in the oDeyar thread, I will be tied for another 10 days or so due to an exam.

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Post by cmlover »

coolkarni

Thanks for obliging. Shanmukapriya is most appropriate since we are now discussing MSS's Shanmukapriya at sangeetham. A true foil :D I have yet to listen TRS.

I do love dasar pada but let someone also post the lyrics. I have an allergy to listening to songs without the lyrics. Perhaps Lakshman can help!

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Post by meena »

cml

the text were provided to me by Lji

nInE ballidanO:

P: nInE ballidanO hari ninna dAsaru ballidaro
A: nAnA teradi nidhAnisi nODalu nInE bhaktarAdhInanAda mEle
C1: jalaja bhavANDakke oDeya nInenisuve balu doDDavanu nInahudo
alasade hagaliruLennade anudina olidu baliya mane bAgila kAida mEle
2: kyAtiyindali puruhUta sahita sura vrAtavu ninnanu Olaisalu
bhUtaLadoLu samprItige siluki nI pArttana rathake sutanAda mEle
3: parama puruSa parabomma nInenutali nirata shrutiyu koNDADutire
vara pANDavara maneyULiga mADyavaru kare karedellige pOgi kAida mEle
4: dUradalli paNege hoDeyalu bhISmana samharipenenuta cakra jhaLapisuta
bharadinda baralalli harinAma balavire parikisi nODi summane tirugida mEle
5: taraLa kareyalu nI tvaritadi kambhadi bandu nara mrga rUpadindavana kAide
varagaLIva purandara viTTala ninna smaripara manadalli sereya sikkida mEle

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parAku mADade:

P: parAku mADade parAmbarisi enna aparAdhangaLa kSamiso
A: dharA ramaNa phaNidharArcita surAdhipati vandita
C1: nararoLage pAmaranu nAniha parake sAdhanavariye shrI hariye
sharaNu hokke ninna caraNa kamalakke kaRuNadhim ninna smaraNe enagittu
2: japavanariyenu tapavanariyenu upavAsa vratagaLanariye shrI hariye
krpAvalOkanadinda A pApagaLanella apAhatava mADo apAra mahimane
3: kariya rakSisi draupadiya more lAlisi taraLa kolidu nI porede dayadi
sariyarasa ninna sariyAru kANe karuNisayya shrI purandara viTTala

(corrections are welcome)
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khamas kriti is a WOW!

upEndramAshrayAmi. rAgA: khamAs. c/tripuTa tALA. -(sree MV comp.)

P: upEndramAshrayAmi santatam krpAlavAlam indirApatim
A: apAra vaibhavam suma bhUSitam dvipArti haraNam shruti birIDitam
C: vAsudEvam akhila lOka sharaNam vAsavAdi vandita vara caraNam
bhAsamAna shArdEndu vadanam bhAsurAbja daLa vishAla nayanam

Yet to listen to rtp.

coolkarni

Post by coolkarni »

cml meena

i will apply the brakes (to my uploads) here.
as DRS has indicated that he will be tied up with exams for 10 days or so, we will wait and after that we can progress with further sets .

DRS thank you so much for obliging .

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Post by prashant »

Listened to the Ranjani RTP in more detail - Ranjani which is often dismissed as a 'scalar' raga takes on several new dimensions with this handling. Lots of unconventional piDis [which take supreme guts and confidence to execute as nonchalantly as he does!] and detailed exploration in three octaves. Easily the most unique Ranjani I have heard.

The sahAnA piece was very nice as well with usual engaging swarams from TRS Sir. Haven't heard the dAsar piece yet. I do have a rendition of upEndram AshrayAmi - lovely krithi.

Coolkarni Sir - how about a ghana rAgA RTP when you next upload? Perhaps tODi, kAmbhOji or bhairavi?

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Post by cmlover »

Thanks meena! Now I can enjoy the pada better!

Coolkarni

The pada discussions can wait for DRS. But we can go ahead with those magnificent TRS RTPs unless you want to take your holidays :D too!

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Post by prashant »

I echo cmlover's thoughts. I am unfortunately yet to hear the Shanmukhapriya and the concurrent set of uploads due to some computer issues at home, but will catch up soon. Please do keep the RTP uploads coming at your convenience.

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Post by venkmal »

dharA ramaNa phaNidharArcita surAdhipati vandita
dhaRa ramaNa phaNitha rAma Rarchitha Suraadhi pathi vidhi
haraadhi
vandita it goes like that.

kariya rakSisi draupadiya more lAlis this is Valisi.
i have learnt like this but not in kharaharapriya but in saveri.

please chk.
venkmal

coolkarni

Post by coolkarni »

before i start with the set of rtps, here is one more lec dem on pallavi singing.
first part
http://rapidshare.de/files/7422120/TRS_ ... Part_1.mp3

for those of you newcomers who may not have downloaded th first lec dem by trs, pl request for another posting here.

meena
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Post by meena »

thanku Kji


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Post by ninjathegreat »

thanks, kulkarniji...

Can someone also post his Lec-Dem on Thanams? I gathered from the discussion on Sangeetham that one such exists...

Cheers
Ninja

coolkarni

Post by coolkarni »

ninja.
yes.the one posted by ksrimech is the earlier bunch.This is the one referred to at sangeetham.it is a big lec dem

i have recently come across another video version.
i have posted the audio track-first part-here on this thread-titled Lec Dem 2 part 1.The other tracks of this version i will post later tonight.

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Post by meena »

Listened to the lec-dem part 2 on pallavi.
sree trs was running a cold, inspite of this what a wonderful demo he presented.
Kji who is the lady asking the Q's? Is this video titled 'pallavi with a smile'? thanku


ksrimech
mundirikottai! ha ha, arent we all at times.

coolkarni

Post by coolkarni »

meena-
he keeps addressing her as Kalpagam.
program was organised by saraswathi vaggeyakara trust
concluding part
http://rapidshare.de/files/7428515/TRS_ ... Part_2.mp3
http://rapidshare.de/files/7429778/TRS_ ... Part_3.mp3
http://rapidshare.de/files/7430706/TRS_ ... Part_4.mp3

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Post by venkatpv »

the neraval for the kharaharapriya piece was too good!!
and he has this typical style of ending his neravals with a flourish... which makes my hair stand up!! :D

coolkarni

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meena
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Post by meena »

WOW just one word to sum up! enjoyed the kanada rtp, thanks Kji.

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Post by venkatpv »

coolkarni,
any info about the violinist... his/her alapana was beautiful!!!
TRS normally sings kanada in almost all his RTPs in the ragamalika portion..was nice to hear kanada itself :D

coolkarni

Post by coolkarni »

that was VVSubramaniam and karaikudi Mani at Mumbai 1975.
Great combination was'nt it.

working on the next rtp

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Post by cmlover »

coolkarni

keep going. I will catch up! No! No more examinations. But we had a massive power outage due to the hurricanes. I helplessly waited for the juice to flow. Everything is Ok now. I am tempted to discuss one of TRS RTP at sangeetham if there is some encouragement!

But then shall we start it here? How's dat folks?

But I am still having problems connecting to the forum. Let our connections atabilize first. Right?

coolkarni

Post by coolkarni »

venkatpv
thanks.that lakshana .. was a new one for me.

Next RTP

http://rapidshare.de/files/7832452/trs- ... uranji.mp3

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Post by prashant »

I am cursing my relatively low bandwidth at this point! Accumulating all this great music is a slow process!

TRS/VVS and TRS/T Rukmini are both great combinations. Sri Kamalakar Rao was a stock mridangist for TRS and always provided soothing and intelligent accompaniment. I am looking forward to hearing him tonight in Bombay after a long hiatus. Another logical combination that comes to mind is TRS/Lalgudi - both geniuses in both laya as well as inventive raga exploration. Are there any recordings available?

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Post by chithra »

Thanks, Venkat and Kulkarni, for your TRS uploads. Nice to hear some music from the early years - his voice is obviouly younger than what I heard in the 90s. Interesting to hear the same tricks in swaram singing - his accompanists , esp, if young, used to be so worried about accompanying him on stage.

Sri Kulkarni, could you tell me when the Lec Dems, the RTPs etc were recorded.

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Post by venkatpv »

the way he ends the Natakurinji RTP is awesome!!! i didnt even notice it the first time i heard it!!!
any expert comments??

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Post by cmlover »

Thanks venkat for sharing that Begada RTP.


coolkarni

Post by coolkarni »

sankarabharana
begada
kalyani
todi
mohana
kharaharapriya
hemavathi

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Post by venkatpv »

coolkarni,
i hope we arent posting the same RTPs individually???

coolkarni

Post by coolkarni »

venkatpv

i am through, with my full bunch of TRS Rtps
just noticed that begada got repeated..

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Post by kaumaaram »

Coolkarni,

Many thanks for sharing the entire RTPs.

Kaumaaram Sivakumar T

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Post by venkatpv »

can anybody who has downloaded the RTPs which coolkarni posted, please give the sahitya for all the pallavis... specifically, the thodi one.. i can u/l a thodi RTP which i have if its not the same as the one already u/led :D

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Post by abadri »

can anybody who has downloaded the RTPs which coolkarni posted, please give the sahitya for all the pallavis... specifically, the thodi one.. i can u/l a thodi RTP which i have if its not the same as the one already u/led :D
Venkat, the Thodi pallavi starts as Tittai Tittitai Enradum Deivame
He later expands it to Tai Titai Tittai Tittitai Enradum Deivame

abadri
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Post by abadri »

Let's keep this great series of RTPs going :)

TRS - MC - Kamalakar Rao : RTP - Bilahari
[rapidshare links deleted]

meena
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Post by meena »

thanks badri, i was just abt to post the todi pallavi line for venkat.

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Post by venkatpv »

coolkarni and others,
i am told that TRS' rendition of Nadopasana was very very special...any recordings??

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Post by kiransurya »

Goodness gracious me!!!! So many RTPS. Seems like Iam going to be busy listening to them for next few days
Thanks everyone. I live in a place where no one knows anything about carnatic music except me. So, no live concerts, broad casts and stuff to post. Iam always on the downloaders list.
Kiran

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Post by venkatpv »

kiran,
these arent just RTPs..these are TRS' RTPs!!! it doesnt get better than that :D

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Post by kiransurya »

Yes, I hread a couple of his renditions before. They are great...

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