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  Post ID: 22346 Posted: 24 Sep 2006 10:25 
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Starting out with a great lec-dem by R.K.Srikantan on this raga on 18-Aug-2002. It is in Kannada, but is easily understandable to Tamils (it was to me, except for a few places)

http://ananyaculture.org/rks-talk.ram

Could someone knowing Kannada do a translation for everyone's benifit?

The lec-dem is followed by Mysore Vasudevachar's "Mama Hridaye"

Source page: http://ananyaculture.org/sangeetha.php
   
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  Post ID: 22362 Posted: 24 Sep 2006 20:31 

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Whenever I think of this raga, it is Sri. Semmangudi's Dwaitamu Sukhama that comes to my mind. The kriti, followed by torrential swaras, is always electrifying. Also Janani Ninnuvina, which he immortalized through his frequent renderings. Some other memorable listens for me are Sri. DKJ's Nannu Vidachi, my guru's Sadguru Swamiki, Ninnu Vina Mari Galada and Sri NilotpalaNayike (which my dad taught me after learning from Sri RRI's Kritimanimalai), and Sri MMI's Tatwamariya Tarama. Difficult for me to pick which stands out among these. Personally I would pick Tyagarajas's creations (Dwaitamu, Ragaratna and Nannu Vidachi), simply because he covered Adi, Rupaka, and also Misra Chapu talas. But for sheer raga bhava, I rate Sadguru Swamiki (especially the charanam) higher than other major kritis in this raga. Of course there are other kritis like (Badalika Dheera, Paripalayamam, Cheraravade, etc...but I rate them a tier below the above-mentioned kritis). Please note that my spectrum of known kritis is not very broad, just about decent.

Dikshitar's Nilotpalambam and Sri NilotpalaNayike are in the same raga right?


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  Post ID: 22364 Posted: 24 Sep 2006 21:02 
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The first one is in nArirItigauLa and the second in rItigauLa.
   
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  Post ID: 22366 Posted: 24 Sep 2006 21:27 

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One of my favourite rAgas certainly.I like ssi's rAga alapana ,mmi's tatvamariya. When I was in school I felt electrified while hearing santhanam rendering guruvAyoor appane (ambujam krishna composition). Also enna punniyam seidhenO by OVK , incidentally sung in lot of nAmasankeerthanam is wonderful.

mahesh_narayan,
Go to the link http://www.sangeethapriya.org/%7Etnbala/ and download the TS Balakrishna sastrigal ThyagarAjaKshetranam.zip . He talks for the first 45 minutes on Dwaithamu sukhama , incidentally it is an english kalakshebham. Absolute bliss, with TSBS lucid explanation, you will like it more...
   
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  Post ID: 22370 Posted: 24 Sep 2006 22:25 

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Lakshman wrote:
The first one is in nArirItigauLa and the second in rItigauLa.

I have read this statement before -But does it really make sense?

Would MD consider kalyANI and shAnta kalyANi as different rAGs ? Or would he consider vasanta bhairavi and vATi vasanta bhairavi as different rAGas? Then how could he call rItigouLa and nArI rItigouLa as different rAgas?

-Ramakriya
   
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  Post ID: 22372 Posted: 25 Sep 2006 01:04 
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I don't know but that is how they are listed in Vinai A.Sundaram Iyer's books.
   
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  Post ID: 22374 Posted: 25 Sep 2006 03:57 

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Namaste,

Here is my 2c.

A more relevant comparison in this context would be kharaharapriya - shri , harikambhoji - harikedhara gowla and not kanakambari and kanakangi.

I think Dikshitar composed nIlotpalamba bhajare in the present rIti gowla and shrI nIlotpala nAyike in nArI rItigowla. (BMK has not sung shrI nIlotpala nAyike in the original form)

nArI rItigowla being a mela in the old system with just n2.

From a laxshya aspect rIti gauLai is one of those few special rAgAs that was still evolving and taking shape during Thyagara’s time. Ananda bhairavi had existed for a long time and had accumulated enormous beauty and lilting phrases. This raga again was changing its shape during the trinity era. rIti gauLai absorbed some of old Ananda bhairavi’s sancharas and had it’s own beauty with the double nishada.

I think Dikshitar gave an earnest attempt to preserve the old Ananda bhairavi, Shastri gave the new Ananda bhairavi a front seat and Thyagaraja waved his magical wand on rIti gauLai.

Phrases like nityAnanda rUposmi, brahmAnanda rUposmi in AnandeshvareNa, hR^itkamalA nagara nivAsini in kamalamba samrakshatu etc show traces of old Ananda bhairavi that are now in rIti gowla.



Let me see if I can dig out some old AIR recordings of nArI rIti gowla.
   
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  Post ID: 22387 Posted: 25 Sep 2006 11:39 

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To add to the list- the beautiful Ata tala varna "Vanajaksha" by Veenai Kuppiyer. It has such beautiful, haunting phrases . Esp the 2nd of the Ethugade Swarams which goes something like "NPNNS NSGGM SM,MGR SG,GRS....( in mantara sthyai)

Mahesh_Narayan,

During his early years, Guruji had tuned "Abakara Nindai .." in reetigowla. It is now popularly sung in Chakravakam today, but there was a time when it was also sung in reetigowla. Do you remember it?
   
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  Post ID: 22391 Posted: 25 Sep 2006 13:06 

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My favourites
Guruvayurappane (Ambujam Krishna, tuned by TNS)
Thandava Dharishanam (Gopalakrishna Bharathi)
Nannu Vidachi (Thyagaraja)
Neelothpalamba (Dikshithar)
Enna Punniyam (Oothukkadu)
Ninnuvina (Syama Sastri)
   
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  Post ID: 22405 Posted: 25 Sep 2006 18:09 

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Our own DRS has composed and sung a kriti in nArI rItigowLa. Check the link http://rasikas.org/viewtopic.php?id=255&p=7#p5067
   
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  Post ID: 23474 Posted: 08 Oct 2006 05:01 

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Hello Srinidhi,
I am aware of Guruji's various compositions in this raga and learnt a couple myself.

In Shri RKS's kannada lec-dem on ritigowla in sangeethapriya.org, he lists 'parvatarajakumari' and 'Sri Dum Durge' as examples of kritis in this raga. Is there a sampradaya of these kritis being rendered in ritigowla?

Dr. Shrikaanth or anyone: I speak kannada to a decent extent, but I felt that Shri RKS's style of kannada was a little tamizhized. Some words he used seemed to be tamizh words. (like 'jeeva prayoga ella gavunisko beku'). Do you guys think the same? If not, maybe I need to improve my kannada a lot:).
   
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  Post ID: 23475 Posted: 08 Oct 2006 05:04 

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mahesh_narayan wrote:
Dr. Shrikaanth or anyone: I speak kannada to a decent extent, but I felt that Shri RKS's style of kannada was a little tamizhized. Some words he used seemed to be tamizh words. (like 'jeeva prayoga ella gavunisko beku'). .

No not at all. There is not even a trace. ANd there is no reason why it would be :) It is "gamanisa bEku".
   
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  Post ID: 23476 Posted: 08 Oct 2006 05:09 

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Thanks:). I picked up Kannada only through 'kelvi gnaanam'. Some more kelvi is needed:). Or gnaanam:). Whichever helps:)

Could you throw some light on the Dikshitar kritis mentioned above?


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mahesh_narayan wrote:
In Shri RKS's kannada lec-dem on ritigowla in sangeethapriya.org, he lists 'parvatarajakumari' and 'Sri Dum Durge' as examples of kritis in this raga. Is there a sampradaya of these kritis being rendered in ritigowla?

I had not noticed this till you mentioned! He does mention there, but I have no clue if there was such a tradition anytime ?

-Ramakriya
   
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  Post ID: 27689 Posted: 29 Nov 2006 20:18 

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Does anybody have reethigowlai varnam rendition by any artist in adithalam. composed by Pinakapani


Rgds
Jyothsna SaiRam
   
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hi i am new here.i very recently listened to nithyasree singing nariritigowlai of dikshitar in some recording.it had traces of ritigowlai and natabhairavi.i learnt that nariritigowlai is parallel of natabhairavi in the asampurna paddhati.so can somebody throw some more light?
   
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  Post ID: 50873 Posted: 09 Jun 2007 09:18 

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Please refer the following:
http://www.rasikas.org/viewtopic.php?id=1225
-bhaktha
   
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Dear mahesh_narayan Ji,
Thank you very much for providing this link.

Thanks
Adiyen dasan.
   
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hi whenever i hear songs based either in carnatic or filmbased in reethigowla i feel more energised and great happiness why is this?

i have also tried to feel the same in other raagams but not able to feel the same effect.
   
 
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  Post ID: 52415 Posted: 26 Jun 2007 15:58 
try this reethigowla for a change.
http://www.sendspace.com/file/v1bhoq

It is a bit out of the ordinary
   
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hi ,

I am not able to listen to or download the sendspace file.any suggestions?
   
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if coolkarni (or someone who has the audio) could please reupload for us :)
   
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  Post ID: 52764 Posted: 29 Jun 2007 01:37 

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There is also a commerical recording from Aruna sairam - "Jo JO rAmAa" in ritigowlai
   
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  Post ID: 55447 Posted: 31 Jul 2007 09:39 

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Whenever i think about this raaga, 'Chara ravathe...." sung by young Vid.Balaji Shankar comes to my mind, with mannargudi's mrudangam! Thatz great performance....
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A humble contribution: http://sunson.wordpress.com/2008/05/05/ ... ritigaula/ - my personal opinions on this raga, with some analysis and demonstrative samples.

Arun
   
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