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Postby narayan » 10 May 2009, 03:43

Apologies for following up on my own post, but Vallabha nayaka, Anudinamunu and Chidambaram in Begada are also of the G,MPDP flavour, give or take a flourish. So is Yarukkagilum bhayama? Don't recall the pallavi line of the other Begada padam. The song that keerthi mentions is on a ventilator, Manasuna nera, how does it go?

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Postby keerthi » 10 May 2009, 18:52

Yarukkagilum goes pPm mggM P P dpS .. Earlier posts in this thread list Yela padare which is the Kshetrayya padam.. It is very beautiful..

Ma-na-su-na ne-ra goes M-G-P-M D-P in one Avartam of rUpakam..

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Postby davalangi » 11 May 2009, 19:04

Here is nI pada pankajamula by the Toronto Brothers:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hVxVsMhwk8

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Postby vasanthakokilam » 20 Apr 2012, 16:51

Encountered these two great links while looking up some info on Begada:

Sanjay: http://sanjaysub.blogspot.com/2009/01/k ... ramam.html

CAC Newsletter: http://www.carnatica.net/newsletter/beg ... letter.htm

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Postby CRama » 23 Apr 2012, 07:22

Interestingly there are two songs starting with the same words in Begada- Kadikann vaithennai aalamma. IIRC one is by Ramaswami Sivan and another by Mayuram Viswanatha Sastri.

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Postby satyabalu » 26 Apr 2012, 02:01

davalangi wrote:Here is nI pada pankajamula by the Toronto Brothers:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hVxVsMhwk8

In some schools (ALB to be specific) the chittai swaram is followed by sahithya"Ninnu mana suna ney nenu dina munu gana /ma nadana mani ninu koni yadithi// Thana una kanu koni nenaru thonu nan/u brovu panna kendra sannu thanga"// (Words may need correction).(Nee padapankajamula)

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Postby keerthi » 29 Apr 2012, 05:55

satyabalu wrote:In some schools (ALB to be specific) the chittai swaram is followed by sahithya"Ninnu mana suna ney nenu dina munu gana /ma nadana mani ninu koni yadithi// Thana una kanu koni nenaru thonu nan/u brovu panna kendra sannu thanga"// (Words may need correction).(Nee padapankajamula)


satyabAlu,

I have seen this chiTTaswaram, along with the sAhityam, in the tillaistAnam publications. I haven't had an opportunity to hear the Alathur pADam of this song. The other pATAntara-s that I've heard - muktamma, Sandhyavandanam, SRJ, tiruppAmburam SwAminAtha piLLai and the rAllapalli.A.Sarma pATham, most of which sing all the caraNams, do not sing the C.Swaram.

This sAhityam is also a bit suspect, since it used the non-classical term 'sannutAnga' which has emerged only in the paTnam - pUchi era of composition. tyAgarAja doesn't seem to have used this word in his compositions. Also the sAhitya is overall not up to the mark.


It is however a little-heard kIrtanam, with beautiful sangatis, and different-tuned caranams that needs to be sung more often.

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Postby satyabalu » 29 Apr 2012, 12:13

"Also the sAhitya is overall not up to the mark."


It is however a little-heard kIrtanam, with beautiful sangatis, and different-tuned caranams that needs to be sung more often."
"javaranuthajajavaravitav javarajasritha Thiagaraja
javaraja rudravanisewara pavaneyamunijivanaanujamu" Nee...(words may need correction).Don't you think this charanam is good in sahithya keerthi!" The other part that this is attributed to Thiagaraja or not I have no clues though you have a point "sannuthanga".

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Postby keerthi » 01 May 2012, 08:34

satyabAlu, let me rush to clarify that I am not calling nI padapankaja of inferior quality. On the contrary it is one of the bard's finest pieces, from the dhatu-mAtu perspectives. I can see that my previous post is ambiguous.

I meant that the chiTTaswaram sAhityam alone is not up to the mark and is suspect.

p.s -

It is jyA-vara-nuta! jyAjA-vara! bidau-|-jA+avaraja! shrita-tyAgarAja!
jya-vara+aja-rudra+avanI-sura-bhAvanIya! muni-jIvana anisamu|| nI padapankaja

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Postby satyabalu » 02 May 2012, 14:49

keerthi wrote:satyabAlu, let me rush to clarify that I am not calling nI padapankaja of inferior quality. On the contrary it is one of the bard's finest pieces, from the dhatu-mAtu perspectives. I can see that my previous post is ambiguous.

I meant that the chiTTaswaram sAhityam alone is not up to the mark and is suspect.

p.s -

It is jyA-vara-nuta! jyAjA-vara! bidau-|-jA+avaraja! shrita-tyAgarAja!
jya-vara+aja-rudra+avanI-sura-bhAvanIya! muni-jIvana anisamu|| nI padapankaja

I now stand clarified on your point &corrected on the words in last charanam.I remember one lean visually challenged lady presenting this no in Sethupathi HS Madurai in 1960-64.


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