Hamsanadham

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mantra
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Postby mantra » 17 Jan 2006, 18:12

Hi all,
I really like Hamsanaadham raagam. I have heard many people sing Bantureeti with some of them doing a short alaapana (I like S. Kalyanaraman). I also did listen Dandapani Desikar's pada vendume posted by param sir.
Are there any other songs in this raagam? Have artists done extensive alaapana in this raagam?
Please share your thoughts
Regards
Shyam

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Postby rshankar » 17 Jan 2006, 18:32

There is a beautiful Ramayana composition by OVK in this rAgam: kalyANa rAmA: sung by both Vijay Siva and Nityashree: Unfortunately, they are both commercial renderings.
Ravi

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Postby srkris » 17 Jan 2006, 20:47

I know a commercial recording where Dr.Balamuralikrishna has done a nice long alapana for Bantureethi. I think it also contains Dayajuchuta (Ganavaridhi) and/or maybe a song in Chakravaham.

However you can search for 'Hamsa Nadam' in Music India Online (www.musicindiaonline.com) under the Carnatic Vocal section

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Postby abadri » 17 Jan 2006, 21:41

A rendition of Bantureeti by Ramnad Krishnan preceded by an alapana
[rapidshare links deleted]

Another special thing about this rendition is that Ramnad is accompanied on
flute by T Viswanthan in addition to V Thyagarajan on violin (T Ranganathan
is on mridangam).

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Postby kiransurya » 17 Jan 2006, 22:17

Hi Mantra
I have a detailed Hamsanaadam by Sri Yesudas with a fantastic alapana and kalpanaswaram. Its from a concert that I recorded 10yrs ago in Chicago. Its on a tape. So I will see if I can get it onto my computer, so that everyone enjoy it.
Kiran

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Postby Radhakrishnan » 26 Jan 2006, 03:28

janya of 60th mela neethimathi,but the vivadi swara dhaivatham is usually avoided.Ilayaraja has used this raga in tendral vandu,swargeme endralum

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Postby Valli » 22 Mar 2006, 01:57

would like the audio link to hamsanadham thillana composed by Madurai N. Krishnan. Does anyone know where I can listen to it?
Valli

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Postby rbharath » 22 Mar 2006, 09:24

the vivadhi dhaivadham is actually present in some version of bantureeti. Senior Vidwans like Sangeetha Kalanidhi R Vedavalli sing the kriti with the dhaivadham. The dhaivadham is clearly shown in the anupallavi of her rendering. I may have a recording. will check and post if i can find it.

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Postby kartik » 23 Mar 2006, 05:37

HMB has composed Krupanidhe in Hamsanadham with the shatshruti dhaivatham.

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Postby mohan » 17 May 2006, 12:01

Here is a short swara passage I composed in Hamsanadham for a dance drama recently:

http://www.carnaticcorner.com/myweb/Hamsanadham.pdf

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Postby Ashwin » 17 May 2006, 12:35

the vivadhi dhaivadham is actually present in some version of bantureeti.


As I understand it, the archaic form of hamsanAdam, as given in sangraha cUDAmaNi and employed by tyAgarAjA, contained ShaTSruti dhaivatam - I believe the original name of what we sing today as hamsanAdam is "varadA."

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Postby Suji Ram » 17 May 2006, 15:52

Mohan,
It would be nice if you play it for us.

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Postby kiransurya » 17 May 2006, 16:33

I have got a recording of Yesudas singing Bantureethi where he actually uses Daivatham both in Manodharama as well as in the krithi..

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Postby mohan » 17 May 2006, 21:57

Suji - here it is, sung by my wife, Sangeetha, and played by me.

http://www.carnaticcorner.com/sounds/misc/

Regarding the Dhaivatham, while I don't use it, I think it is better to treat it as a gamakam from the Ni rather than a note in its own right.

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Postby Suji Ram » 18 May 2006, 18:20

Thanks Mohan,
delightful!

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Postby raviraj » 19 May 2006, 05:33

S Kalyanaraman has rendered it with the dhaivatham. Coollkaniji/Others having the recording can plese post it.

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Postby mohan » 19 May 2006, 05:53

This is a discussion that I initiated on rec.music.indian.classical (the orginal internet carnatic music discussion forum) back in 1995.

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.musi ... 7831a0a623

The chitta swaram with the Dha in Dasachala by GNB may have been added by TSK, who was a proponent of using the Dha.

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Postby kaumaaram » 23 May 2006, 10:46

This is a discussion that I initiated on rec.music.indian.classical (the orginal internet carnatic music discussion forum) back in 1995.



Mohan: By the word "original" do you mean the "first ever?" 8)

Kaumaaram

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Postby mohan » 23 May 2006, 10:49

yes - that's what i mean

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Postby coolkarni » 23 May 2006, 11:29

Raviraj
I will post the Kalyanraman clip here.
Only if you promise not to ask me where the dhaivatham is 8) 8)

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Postby mohan » 23 May 2006, 11:34


coolkarni

Postby coolkarni » 23 May 2006, 12:00

Mohan Thanks


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Postby shanks » 25 May 2006, 16:37

Vijaysiva sang an elobarate 'Kalyana rama' last year at S V Temple, Pittsburgh. It was a pretty good rendering.

Of the instrument renderings, MSG and Ravikiran are the ones i have heard many a time. MSG needless to say renders this raga very well and uses the dhaivatham on just a couple of locations. A couple of years ago, Mysore Manjunath played this 'la MSG' style in the Mysore brothers concert.


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