mei nahi makhan khayo

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bharatanatyamrasika
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mei nahi makhan khayo

Post #1 by bharatanatyamrasika » 14 Jun 2012, 11:01

I am posting here hoping some one on this post can help me. what are the ragas and talas in these different versions of the same song?

here is mss singing this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_NGVkklYWI
here is lata http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOlMd03H0mw
here is anup jalota part 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fBI-TNT-Yk
and anup jalota part 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-E_ecnhMf9c

thank you.
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Lakshman
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Re: mei nahi makhan khayo

Post #2 by Lakshman » 18 Aug 2012, 21:47

M.S.is singing in the rAgA bhImpalAs. Lata's song is in mishra rAgA. Anoop Jalota sings it in gArA.
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Re: mei nahi makhan khayo

Post #3 by smala » 26 Aug 2012, 10:39

The most pleasing rendition IMO is by Pandit Omkarnath. Raga?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hElaD4xG_mY
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Re: mei nahi makhan khayo

Post #4 by vasanthakokilam » 26 Aug 2012, 20:53

On the MSS version, I also thought of it as bhimplAs as Lakshman did but then it also evoked similarity with Dhanasri ( the famous thillana of Swathi thirunal ). Are these two ragas related?
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Re: mei nahi makhan khayo

Post #5 by Lakshman » 27 Aug 2012, 00:22

Scale of rAgAs (from Raganidhi):
bhImpalAs: N2 S G2 M1 P N2 S / S N2 D1 P M1 G2 R2 S (vAdi is M, samvAdi is S)
dhanAshrI: N2 S G2 M1 P N2 S / S N2 D1 P M1 G2 R2 S(vAdi is P, samvAdi is S)
So the only difference between the two rAgAs is the vAdi svarA.
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Re: mei nahi makhan khayo

Post #6 by vasanthakokilam » 28 Aug 2012, 04:48

Thanks very much Lakshman.

This is a good teachable example to illustrate what the vAdi svarA differences mean when everything else is equal and how we can actually hear it in songs in these two ragas. Anyone?

Is this also similar to how bhupali and Deshkar are different, though they have the same arohana and avarohana? I heard that described as bhupali is a poorvanga pradhana raga( movements more prominent in the lower tetrachord ) and deshkar as "uttaranga-pradhana" raga (( movements more prominent in the lower tetrachord ). I do not know if this is related to the vadi-samvadi differences also.
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