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Post subject: Arabhi and Devagandhari
  Post ID: 219992 Posted: 15 Apr 2012 00:37 

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I am asking this doubt, dating back to the time of the tamil film Sindhubhairavi.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4U5Ei3haT8&feature=player_detailpage#t=2265s

Can somebody, tell me the difference between Arabhi and Devagandhari...
Do they really have the same arohanam and avarohanam?

Somebody, please clarify
   
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Post subject: Re: Arabhi and Devagandhari
  Post ID: 219995 Posted: 15 Apr 2012 01:46 
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Here are a few links that covers pretty much everything that needs be said on this topic.

http://www.carnatica.net/newsletter/ara ... letter.htm ( exhaustive treatment by the top notch experts in CM )

http://www.ragasurabhi.com/identifying-ragas.html ( week 117 )

http://sunson.wordpress.com/2009/10/10/ ... -music-10/ ( our own Arun's exposition in his own unique way )
   
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Post subject: Re: Arabhi and Devagandhari
  Post ID: 220568 Posted: 23 Apr 2012 12:37 

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They do differ in their lakshaNas and a great deal different in their moods. Arabhi is more sober and pleasing while Devagandhari is malevolent and dominating.
   
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Post subject: Re: Arabhi and Devagandhari
  Post ID: 220839 Posted: 30 Apr 2012 10:39 

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In Carnatica newsletters, Arabhi is said to be more of roudra rasa and dEvagAndhAri as more santa rasa.
Whatever, there is a kshetra gAna by MD in dEvagAndhAri, that goes as sAlivAtIswaram. Listened to a Veena recital of this song by KSN... mesmerising. I would like to listen to a vocal recital of this song and any pointers would be helpful.
Is this song a regular number in past / present concerts?
   
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Post subject: Re: Arabhi and Devagandhari
  Post ID: 220846 Posted: 30 Apr 2012 12:15 

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nri,

There are many kritis by MD and others which are masterpieces in Devagandhari. Shalivaatiishvaram is just an average one. The more powerful and emotive ones are : 1. KshitiijaaramaNam 2. VadaanyEshvaram 3. Kshiirasaagara shayana 4. KaruNaasamudraa 5. Enneramum undan.
   
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Post subject: Re: Arabhi and Devagandhari
  Post ID: 220855 Posted: 30 Apr 2012 15:21 

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Thanks, classicallover.
Certainly did not mean that others are lesser. Just wanted to know if sAlivAtIswaram is a regular in concerts and if a vocal recording is available.
   
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Post subject: Re: Arabhi and Devagandhari
  Post ID: 220991 Posted: 03 May 2012 13:34 

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nri,

There was one rendering by someone I don't know, but it is available in Sangeethapriya. The raaga bhaava was very very mediocre especially with the masculinity and force of expression of the raaga missing.
   
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