Origin of Saptha Swaras

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Origin of Saptha Swaras

Postby vs_manjunath » 30 May 2012, 00:06

Can some rasika provide the Sanskrit Slokam which says how the saptha swaras were derived from nature(the sounds we hear from animals and birds; Vrishaba,Peacock,Cukkoo etc) ! Many thanks in advance

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Re: Origin of Saptha Swaras

Postby VK RAMAN » 30 May 2012, 02:31

Brahma was the origin of music inspired by Sama Veda. From one note, music progressed to three, then five & crystallized in seven notes, the Sapta Swaras - so says saigan.com/heritage/music/mus1.htm

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Re: Origin of Saptha Swaras

Postby vs_manjunath » 05 Jun 2012, 00:10

For completeness the Sanskrit Sloka is reproduced:

Shadjam mayuro vadati,
gavastu rishabha bhashinah,
aja vidantu gandharam,
crounchah quanati madhyamam.
Pushpa sadharane kale pikah koojati panchamam,
dhaivatam heshate vaji,
nishadam brahmate gajah.

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Re: Origin of Saptha Swaras

Postby Pratyaksham Bala » 05 Jun 2012, 01:34

vs_manjunath,
Thanks!

The 3rd and the 4th sloka of Section 5 of nAraDIyA shikSA are slightly different :-

SaDjam vadati mayUrO gAvO rambhanti carSabham
ajAvikE tu gAndharam krauncO vadati madhyamam (3)
pUSpasAdhAraNE mAlE kOkilO vakti panjcamam
ashvastu dhaivatam vakti niSAdam vakti kunjarah (4)

Ref: http://www.peterffreund.com/shiksha/nar ... iksha.html

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Re: Origin of Saptha Swaras

Postby Pratyaksham Bala » 05 Jun 2012, 01:42


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Re: Origin of Saptha Swaras

Postby rshankar » 05 Jun 2012, 14:42

As a tangent, here is an imaginative take on SaMkara's AbharaNa (adornments) in SaMkarAbharaNam, that describes Siva as the OmkAra nAda svarUpa and the sapta svara as his adornments:
s - sarpa
ri - rudrAksha
g - gaMgA
m - mRga
pa - pushpa (konRai pU)
dh - DamarU
ni - niSAkara - candra

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Re: Origin of Saptha Swaras

Postby vs_manjunath » 05 Jun 2012, 16:41

All the above links are quite interesting !

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Re: Origin of Saptha Swaras

Postby Rsachi » 07 Jun 2012, 05:26

Very imaginative interpretations. My own guess is that the seven notes came from human speech as the octave corresponds to the range our voice traverses normally to encompass the range of expressions or rasas. Also the notes as they are spaced have an inbuilt musciality in juxtaposition. It is interesting instruments across the globe have their music anchored in the seven notes, without the benefit of corresponding tropical animal sounds.
By the way I encountered an amusing Australian bird who came and sang in 4 notes..Very musically gifted indeed.Sure he would even have named the raga had he come down to the Dec. Vizha.

Here is a version which is analogous to our RTP:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfaplSc5ieM&sns=em
Last edited by Rsachi on 07 Jun 2012, 12:11, edited 1 time in total.

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Re: Origin of Saptha Swaras

Postby vs_manjunath » 07 Jun 2012, 12:03

Rsachi wrote:By the way I encountered an amusing Australian bird who came and sang in 4 notes..Very musically gifted indeed.Sure he would even have named the raga had he come down to the Dec. Vizha.


Dr Balamurali would have named the raga sung by this Australian bird and also composed a melodious song.

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Re: Origin of Saptha Swaras

Postby Rsachi » 07 Jun 2012, 17:43

:) Possible raga names: Vihagapriya. KraunchiNi, Chanchunaata.

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Re: Origin of Saptha Swaras

Postby vs_manjunath » 07 Jun 2012, 20:51

True ! Since we already have "Hamsa" dhwani; "Garuda " dhwani;" Kokila " priya; " kokila" dhwani; also " Mayura" dhwani( other name for Andholika) one has to scratch a little bit before naming the raga !

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Re: Origin of Saptha Swaras

Postby Nick H » 09 Jun 2012, 19:13

Lovely to see (and hear) bird song featuring in the forum :)


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