Oy BhAratiyArE!--A Child's Eye View of the Poet

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Re: Oy BhAratiyArE!--A Child's Eye View of the Poet

Postby vasanthakokilam » 03 Sep 2011, 21:18

Great job, Rajesh. Thanks.

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Re: Oy BhAratiyArE!--A Child's Eye View of the Poet

Postby arasi » 03 Sep 2011, 21:33

Rajesh,
That's some initiative on your part! Keep five copies for me, please!

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Re: Oy BhAratiyArE!--A Child's Eye View of the Poet

Postby Nick H » 03 Sep 2011, 22:31

I never heard of a one-man-initiated reprint before! Amazing initiative. Well done :)

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Re: Oy BhAratiyArE!--A Child's Eye View of the Poet

Postby cmlover » 03 Sep 2011, 23:39

Thank you so much Rajesh. Awaiting my copy and I offer to share the expenses with you and so may some others in the Forum... Keep us posted.

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Re: Oy BhAratiyArE!--A Child's Eye View of the Poet

Postby arasi » 04 Sep 2011, 01:55

Thank you all once again (the ones I've thanked before!)--for all your kind words which you have expressed once again.

rajumds,
Thanks a lot!

Came across some more material pertaining to Bharathi, which will add to what we have here of Yadugiri's insightful look at him. They are not reviews or information, but are snippets of writing about Bharathi, which rightly belong here, and not in the other thread.
I will come up with them as soon as I can.

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Re: Oy BhAratiyArE!--A Child's Eye View of the Poet

Postby smala » 04 Sep 2011, 11:35

Looking forward eagerly, Arasi - hope this turns into a mega thread/project with other books on Bharati as well.

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Re: Oy BhAratiyArE!--A Child's Eye View of the Poet

Postby kssr » 04 Sep 2011, 14:22

Namaskaram, Smt.Arasi.

Bharathiar will live for ever. So will Yadugiri through her book and so also Smt.Arasi, through this translation. There will be demand for reprinting of all three again and again one way or the other.

I will be one of many people who would cut and paste all the chapters into a text file and probably insert the appropriate Bharati songs, format the whole thing, convert to pdf and save as a treasure.

Shall we call the new english production

"Hello Bharathiar"
written by Yadugiri- translated into english by Smt.Arasi
First published in rasikas.org


Sri. Rajeshnat: I can undertake to buy in bulk and circulate in Bangalore. Please give instructions and I will follow.

Finally, I would like to say Thank You to Smt.Arasi. But it sounds so hollow and tears roll down my cheeks for the immeasurable service done by you to Tamil literature/ music.

I just say once again my Pranaams.

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Re: Oy BhAratiyArE!--A Child's Eye View of the Poet

Postby cmlover » 04 Sep 2011, 21:01

kssr
Do share your PDF file with us at this Forum..
Thx

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Re: Oy BhAratiyArE!--A Child's Eye View of the Poet

Postby vasanthakokilam » 04 Sep 2011, 23:20

kssr, please do. Veeyens, please share your compilation too. Thanks.

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Re: Oy BhAratiyArE!--A Child's Eye View of the Poet

Postby arasi » 05 Sep 2011, 01:00

kssr,
Thank you, but you praise me far too much.
We are a team, we are all Bharathi's fans, and want his poetry to reach more and more readers.
It's heartening to know that many rasikAs have read this translation. I hope that all of Bharathi's books and books about him get reprinted over and over again.
Above all, as CML said, the schools should show a renewed interest in finding ways of inspiring children by introducing Bharathi to them in a way that he enlightens them with his works--and with the help of books about him.
nalladOr vINaiyAm bhAratiyai nalamoDu pENudal vENDum...

As for the title of the book: I went for Oy bhArathiyArE! because it touched me, the way Yadugiri addresses him somewhere in the book. She also prefaces her questions with BhArathiyArE! That Oy says more than what one can imagine, and we from the south of tamizh nADu know the endearment it shows. I'm afraid, Hello Bharathi cannot do it to that extent (since we use that expression even to strangers). The title can just be A Child's Eye View of Bharathi, and in parenthesis, Oy BhArathiyArE!. After all, we saw that two titles for a work was common in his time. Later, it was so with movies!

Thanks Veeyens and kssr (and Jayshri too?) for all your efforts.
Meanwhile, VKailasam has written to me that he wants to put songs of Bharathi with appropriate passages from the book on Youtube. I haven't yet gone through what he has sent me.
Last edited by arasi on 05 Sep 2011, 04:12, edited 2 times in total.

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Re: Oy BhAratiyArE!--A Child's Eye View of the Poet

Postby veeyens3 » 05 Sep 2011, 01:52

Arasi's translation has been reformated to 8 by 5 page size of about 108 pages. I did not change the font size etc as the publisher and printer are in a better position to do that.It is an odf file and I can convert it to PDF.And, the million dollar question. How do I share it with you?How can I attach it as as a seperate file? or if e.mail I.D s are given it will be my pleasure to send it to you all. As I have indicated to Arasi, I feel like the squirrel who (?) helped Sri Rama build the Rama Sethu. May Sri Rama bless you all

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Re: Oy BhAratiyArE!--A Child's Eye View of the Poet

Postby kssr » 05 Sep 2011, 13:46

arasi wrote:kssr,
Thank you, but you praise me far too much.


"ThinaiththuNai nandri seyinUm panaiththuNayaai k
koLvar payan therivaar." Tirukkural 104

Anyone who realises the "value" of the work will agree with me. But for you we would not have known about this book of Yadugiri. Then comes the translation; sharing it with all of us. Where can we get such a ring side view of a poet/ a revolutionary / a thinker/ one of the greatest indians / one of the greatest tamilians? The circumstance under which a particular composition was made is often discussed by scholars of CM. I have heard several in the case of Saint Thyagaraja / MD /SS. But these are more or less legends- meaning not 100% reliable historical facts. But here is a totally authentic eye witness account of how and when (upto the date in some cases) Bharathiar composed particular songs; what was the social environment, what was the family environment and so on.

Believe me. it is a priceless work.

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Re: Oy BhAratiyArE!--A Child's Eye View of the Poet

Postby cmlover » 05 Sep 2011, 19:02

veeyens
For the present just send the pdf file by email to those of us here as an attachment. Let me be the first to request. My email is
cmlover@rogers.com
srkris can explore and see whether it can be hosted at this forum...

P.S ..and may Lord Sri Rama bless yu and your family for the loving service you are rendering to all of us at the Forum.

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Re: Oy BhAratiyArE!--A Child's Eye View of the Poet

Postby Govindaswamy » 06 Sep 2011, 04:33

I also would love to receive a pdf copy. My email address is govindaswamy.s77@gmail.com

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Re: Oy BhAratiyArE!--A Child's Eye View of the Poet

Postby arasi » 06 Sep 2011, 07:05

Just now had a chance of looking at the links V. Kailasam had sent me. Please go and have a look at his website. He has taken the trouble to post the translation there, interspersing it with songs which are mentioned there, sung by various vocalists. I was bowled over to hear NCV sing piLLaip pirAyattilE! Hadn't heard that one at all before! Spring cuckoo, have you?

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Re: Oy BhAratiyArE!--A Child's Eye View of the Poet

Postby cmlover » 06 Sep 2011, 18:40

Arasi
Do post the link where vkailasam has uploaded the pieces...

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Re: Oy BhAratiyArE!--A Child's Eye View of the Poet

Postby arasi » 06 Sep 2011, 19:20

CML,
I have sent you mail.

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Re: Oy BhAratiyArE!--A Child's Eye View of the Poet

Postby smala » 06 Sep 2011, 21:36


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Re: Oy BhAratiyArE!--A Child's Eye View of the Poet

Postby cmlover » 06 Sep 2011, 22:27

Thx smala
I have already seen it courtesy of arasi..
It is impressive with the imbedded music.
Vkailasam may also add the lyrics to those songs.
He has even added a picture of arasi!
Good work!

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Re: Oy BhAratiyArE!--A Child's Eye View of the Poet

Postby vasanthakokilam » 06 Sep 2011, 22:49

Thanks for the ready link to v'kailasam's site. He has done an impressive job with the in place linking to the audio. This kind of multimedia collaboration and production is possible only in this connected age.

Arasi, I listened to the 'piLLaip pirAyattilE'. Not that I am an expert at all things NCV, but it sounded like it could have been MSS also. May be Cienu can comment. ( ref: http://e-swari.blogspot.com/2011/07/oy- ... to-12.html, at the end of chapter 5 )

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Re: Oy BhAratiyArE!--A Child's Eye View of the Poet

Postby cienu » 07 Sep 2011, 04:10

vasanthakokilam wrote:Arasi, I listened to the 'piLLaip pirAyattilE'. Not that I am an expert at all things NCV, but it sounded like it could have been MSS also. May be Cienu can comment. ( ref: http://e-swari.blogspot.com/2011/07/oy- ... to-12.html, at the end of chapter 5 )


It is indeed the voice of the immortal NCV :) I did a re-check on the discography of MSS in the website www.msstribute.org and Pillai Pirayathile is not one of the songs sung by her.

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Re: Oy BhAratiyArE!--A Child's Eye View of the Poet

Postby vasanthakokilam » 07 Sep 2011, 04:45

Thanks Cienu.

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Re: Oy BhAratiyArE!--A Child's Eye View of the Poet

Postby veeyens3 » 07 Sep 2011, 05:36

N.C/V's life is a classical example of the saying that a small individual sacrifice justifies a much larger communal gain. Had she not hitched her star to C.K Sachi and come to Madras
and regaled us with her wonderful music, she would have died, probably couple of years earlier, for want of proper medical facilities, as Sundara Kamakshi,after having ground dough for couple of thousand iddlis for her hotelier husband but retaining her membership of “KalllAnAlum kaNavan pullAnAlum purushan” genre of tamilian housewives. The ref. to her transformed me to a satisfied cud chewing cow, recalling the old days when I was privileged to hear her music As I was typing this, I saw the LED indicating lamps flickering. As i was singing as usual when at the computer I panicked if my voice got embedded somehow. Only after opening the posting again, I was satisfied that you were spared the agony. May Sri Rama bless you

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Re: Oy BhAratiyArE!--A Child's Eye View of the Poet

Postby smala » 07 Sep 2011, 08:42

One of these days do post an audio and regale us with your best song - worry out, song in. :D May Sri Rama bless you.

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Re: Oy BhAratiyArE!--A Child's Eye View of the Poet

Postby rshankar » 07 Sep 2011, 19:24

Veeyenes, from what I can tell about Smt. NCV (especially from some wonderful writings of Radnor Guy), she met and hitched her 'star' to Satchi much after she came to Madras. Her dad brought her to the Mecca of music to get her career going.


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