V. V. Sadagopan

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#26  Postby rshankar » 14 Feb 2007 08:08

Padrenji,
ONCE again: THANKS! Really appreciate your efforts!
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#27  Postby rshankar » 14 Feb 2007 08:12

vasya10 wrote:im not sure if i have noted them correctly. but if anyone's interested, i can upload.

iduvum oru kELviyA?:P Of course - please do!
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#28  Postby vijay » 14 Feb 2007 11:03

He looks very much like one of my cousins...
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#29  Postby arasi » 14 Feb 2007 11:58

Please!
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#30  Postby arasi » 14 Feb 2007 12:00

Vijay, and he looks a bit like me, I suppose :)
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#31  Postby ksrimech » 14 Feb 2007 12:40

vasya10,
kArtikEya kamalEkSNa sung by Sri DKJ is by SrI v v SrIvatsA (Secretary of MA) and not SrI v v saDagOpan. The caraNa has the word SrIvatsadAsapOSaka.

Also, the pArthasArathi in madhyamAvathy you are talking about must be by pUcchi SrInivAsa ayyangAr. If it is being sung by Sri VVS, we must hear it. :)

Please do upload them here. Thank you.
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#32  Postby padren68 » 14 Feb 2007 20:39

Parthasarthy nannu - Madhyamavathi - Poochi
http://file.uploadr.com/ca57
http://file.uploadr.com/ca58
Endaveduko - Saraswwathi Manohari - Thyagaraja
http://file.uploadr.com/ca59
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#33  Postby cmlover » 14 Feb 2007 21:21

That last one is all time best of the 72rpm period! Thanks for the excellent recording!
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#34  Postby jayaram » 14 Feb 2007 22:38

He looks very much like one of my cousins...
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Vijay, and he looks a bit like me, I suppose :)

Are you guys related?
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#35  Postby jayaram » 14 Feb 2007 22:39

padren68 - you have outdone yourself this time! Brilliant stuff.
And thanks a lot.
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#36  Postby gb » 14 Feb 2007 23:41

Hey Padren68... that was amazing set of song... esp the suruti.... i always have a certain attraction for that ragam.... i have learnt it... now i know what bhavam that song should be singed with..
thanks again
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#37  Postby arasi » 15 Feb 2007 00:56

gb,
You are right. BhAvam was very much his forte.

jayaram, you are related too! We all have the letter J in our names! Seriously--and you don't believe that I can be serious--I was refering to my relative whom vijay's cousin resembles...
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#38  Postby ammamaha » 15 Feb 2007 04:15

Mahesh S

Thank you very much. I will try it.
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#39  Postby jayaram » 15 Feb 2007 04:24

There's a certain 'ravai' in the singing style of these great masters that's missing in most of the current breed. To me, Manakkal is the lone living link to this almost-extinct style of singing.
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#40  Postby vasya10 » 15 Feb 2007 09:21

iduvum oru kELviyA?tongue Of course - please do!

rshankar: i see that its already been uploaded by padren68. The tiruppugazh i was referring to is actually the pasuram (also uploaded).

ksrimech: thanks for the correction.
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#41  Postby padren68 » 15 Feb 2007 19:10

A few more that I have:
01_ Vazhvinil _ Madanakamarajan.mp3
http://file.uploadr.com/caa4
02_ Inre Un Manam _ Madanakamarajan.mp3
http://file.uploadr.com/caa5
04_ Kakaivannat Tokai _ Madanakamarajan.mp3
http://file.uploadr.com/caa6
From the film Venuganam
http://file.uploadr.com/caa7
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#42  Postby padren68 » 15 Feb 2007 19:24

VVS - AIR Recording - One more that I have

1. Nee chittamu - Dhanyasi - Thyagaraja
2. nAdopAsana - Begada - Thyagaraja
3. Muruga Muruga - Saveri - Periyasami Thuran
4. Ragamalika
5. Kanada - Partial

http://file.uploadr.com/caa8

Dont know if VK's link one is the same as above!
I could not check as I could not d/l the file fro rapidshare.
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#43  Postby arasi » 15 Feb 2007 22:42

Padren,
Surprise, surprise! As I downloaded the film songs file, when I got to venugAnam, what do I find? VVS singing to the accompaniment of just mridangam! What do you think he is singing? Three songs of Ambujam Krishna of the ones he tuned for Geetha Mala vol:1! Do you think there are other files which may contain more treasures? Reminds me of the way Cool found Bade Gulam's Gayana Samaja concert under a different label!
The year is 1950? 1951? It was the final version of the songs he had tuned, to be sent away to Madurai to Ambujam Krishna. There were a few sessions of recording on a spool to spool--I remember being there at one of those sessions. It was Madurai Krishnaiyyangar on the mridangam, if I am not mistaken. My! All those songs, if only more would surface!
sadA smarAmi sAkEta rAmam is one of my favorites!

Thanks a bundle padren! I am also singing (pADrEn) now :)
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#44  Postby cmlover » 16 Feb 2007 02:25

Didn't know VVS has tuned some of Ambujam Krishna!
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#45  Postby padren68 » 16 Feb 2007 07:47

Arasi:
"Surprise, surprise! As I downloaded the film songs file, when I got to venugAnam, what do I find? VVS singing to the accompaniment of just mridangam! What do you think he is singing?............... Do you think there are other files which may contain more treasures? Reminds me of the way Cool found Bade Gulam's Gayana Samaja concert under a different label!"
Unfortunately not. I have exhausted VVS collection (the little that I had of this rare music). All are single files and the last one was not indexed (had doubts if it was from a film, hence left blank). Thanks for the clarification.
Absolutely sweet voice:)
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#46  Postby arasi » 16 Feb 2007 08:06

CML,
The very first vidwAn to tune the songs of Ambujam Krishna was VVS. Then came the volumes containing SSI's, Musiris, S.Ramanathan's, TNS's and Kedaranathan's tuning. SSI used to say: sadagopan pOLa indappATTugaLukku meTTup pODa muDiyumA? (He was refering to the bhAvA content). Prof Sambamurthy praises VVS's skill in creating the chiTTa swaram for one of the songs in his introduction to the songs.

Lakshman,
I do not have a volume with me here. Could you refer to this in the intro--if you have the first volume with you? I remember his designing the cover of the book as well, and proof reading it meticulously...
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#47  Postby Lakshman » 16 Feb 2007 19:39

Prof. P.Sambamurti wrote in the introduction on Oct 12, 1953 (in volume 1):

It is a matter for joy that more and more women composers are making their appearance in the firmament of Karnatic Music. Srimathi Ambujam Krishna has done well in publishing her compositions in notation. This book will enable the Musical public not onlt to become familiar with her creations but also to appreciate their musical worth. The sahitya as well as the music of the compositions flow in a natural manner. They do not suffer from any artificiality in construction. Sri V.V.Sadagopan, one of our brilliant gayakas has assisted the author in editing this book. He has added some commendable citta svaras to a few pieces. The citta svara appended to the piece in begada raga on page 149 is stuuded with gems of svarakshara.

P.Sambamurti
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The song is enta bhAgyamu and here is the ciTTasvara:

* gA | ma pa dha ma pa ga ma ri || ga sa ri ni | sa *dha *pa sA sA * ga ||
, ma pa dha | pa nI dha pa ma pa ga || ma ri ga ma | pa dha pa sA* sA * ga || , ma pa dha pa sa* ni ri* sa* ga* ri* ga* || , gA* ma* | , ga* ri* sa* mA pa dha || pa ri* nI | dha pa dha mA pa ga ri || sa sA* , | pA , dha pa pa ma ga || ma ri * ( enta)
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#48  Postby arasi » 16 Feb 2007 19:56

Lakshman,
Thanks :)
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#49  Postby gb » 17 Feb 2007 14:27

Hey there is a song on Yamunakalyani tuned by VVS sung be T.M.Krishna on one of his CDs "Ksetra Vaishnava" -- "Jagattinai-Yamunakalyani-Adi" that was an amazing and brilliant way to express the lyrics of Ambujam krishna... the ragam chosen was so apt to bring out the expression of the song...
No wonder VVS is musicians musician

Padren Keep up the good work and thanks you too Lakshman
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#50  Postby arasi » 28 Jan 2008 23:41

Today, World Space Shruti played V. V. Sadagopan's songs by Ambujam Krishna (which were tuned by him). It happens to be his star birthday today.
I hear Shruti is going to air more of his music on his birthday on the 4th of February.
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