DK Pattammal

Carnatic Musicians
anandabhairavi
Posts: 122
Joined: 29 Nov 2006, 09:30

Postby anandabhairavi » 29 Jul 2009, 07:29

I am in tears

prashant
Posts: 1602
Joined: 03 Feb 2010, 03:31
Location: Mumbai, India

Postby prashant » 29 Jul 2009, 08:04

That piece touched me very deeply... have saved it to read again.

srkris
Site Admin
Posts: 3269
Joined: 01 Feb 2010, 22:04
Location: London, UK
Contact:

Postby srkris » 29 Jul 2009, 12:44

rshankar wrote:I found Sri Ishwaran's comment to be particularly poignant.


Indeed.

cmlover
Posts: 11492
Joined: 02 Feb 2010, 17:06

Postby cmlover » 29 Jul 2009, 15:18

cienu
Thanks for bringiing the words of Easwaran ! I was really wondering how that nonagenarian was taking the loss of his beloved wife! It is a poignant lesson for all of us moving in that direction!

vasanthakokilam
Posts: 9819
Joined: 02 Feb 2010, 18:31

Postby vasanthakokilam » 29 Jul 2009, 15:39

CML, yes, that line shook me up pretty well, I could not do anything else for half an hour except to sit still, let it sink in, blow out and reflect. That powerful and highly personal statement tells me 'It is all about that'.

cmlover
Posts: 11492
Joined: 02 Feb 2010, 17:06

Postby cmlover » 29 Jul 2009, 16:13

Every time a CM Icon disappears we express our grief and state how much CM will miss their loss. We tend to forget the pillars on which those icons were built. There would not have been a DKP were it not for Easwaran. As much as there would not have been a MS were it not for Sadasivam. We often fail to express an adequate measure of gratitude to the 'pillars'. I am sure in the midst of their irreparable loss it will be soothing for them to know how much we are indebted to them for the sacrifices they have made to gift us those beloved icons who we cherish.

Milton said most appropriately

They also serve who only stand and wait


Let me add accordingly along with the message of condolence to Easwaran our undying gratitude to him for supporting and shaping DKP over the years and presenting her to us CM Rasikas.

poojapac
Posts: 66
Joined: 13 Jan 2009, 01:00

Postby poojapac » 29 Jul 2009, 16:19

Yes, DKP was my guru's sister's mother-in-law. :(

mohan
Posts: 2662
Joined: 03 Feb 2010, 11:22
Location: Sydney, Australia
Contact:

Postby mohan » 31 Jul 2009, 02:33


Nick H
Posts: 6984
Joined: 02 Feb 2010, 20:33

Postby Nick H » 31 Jul 2009, 06:48

cmlover, that is not only a very great point, but expressed with true humanity too.

I probably know less of the stories of such lives as DKP and other great artists of her generation than most of my co-rasikas, but it has occurred to me that, having overcome the orthodox background to take to the stage, all might have been lost without a husband that supported her. We are, indeed, very much indebted.

knandago2001
Posts: 643
Joined: 05 Sep 2006, 04:39

Postby knandago2001 » 31 Jul 2009, 08:47


semmu86
Posts: 814
Joined: 03 Feb 2010, 04:09

Postby semmu86 » 31 Jul 2009, 13:56

nick H wrote:I probably know less of the stories of such lives as DKP and other great artists of her generation than most of my co-rasikas, .


Nick , i suggest you read a book called " carnatic summer " by Sri.V.Sriram ( think you should be aware of this ) and that book has some amazing info about great musicians.

Sorry for deviating from the topic friends..

Arvind...

rshankar
Posts: 10925
Joined: 02 Feb 2010, 16:56

Postby rshankar » 31 Jul 2009, 16:00

mohan wrote:Article about DKP singing for films
http://www.hindu.com/fr/2009/07/31/stories/2009073150540100.htm


Is there a recording of the songs listed by Radnor Guy?

cmlover
Posts: 11492
Joined: 02 Feb 2010, 17:06

Postby cmlover » 31 Jul 2009, 17:18

I do not think she got the kind of recognition she deserved. She was not just a musician, but a patriot and freedom fighter who used her art to propagate the struggle for Indian independence. She was unmarried then and people like Rajaji used to warn her not to do that as there was a chance of her getting arrested. But nevertheless she persevered and that too throughout her life. It is painful to see such relentless commitment go unnoticed. There was not even a State funeral. Remember, she is a recipient of the Padmavibhushan, points out an agitated Nithyasree.


It is heart-rending to read these comments by Nityasree. DKP is indeed a great patriot along with being a pioneer woman of the upper caste in CM. I personally knew and experienced how emotive her songs were during the Freedom movement. She took enormous risks singing those songs in rallies which was considered a treason punishable by death. Though she herself was not arrested there were several who sang after her fashion were arrested and beaten brutally. While those who actively supported the British and requested them not to grant independance are hailed as the Father of the country it is indeed shameful that DKP (just because she belonged to the wrong caste) has not been adequately recognized or even accorded a State Funeral!

Again DKP's service to Tamil in CM is enormous. It was she who breathed life into several songs of Bharathi as well as those of P Sivan. Those were the times when senior vidvaans used to walk out of CM concerts when Tamil songs were sung! I wish DKP had beeen adequately recognized by the Tamil community during her Final Journey. Perhaps they did, but living far away I have not seen it !

ragam-talam
Posts: 1896
Joined: 27 Sep 2006, 20:45

Postby ragam-talam » 31 Jul 2009, 18:55

"She was not just a musician, but a patriot and freedom fighter who used her art to propagate the struggle for Indian independence."

I feel DKP should have been awarded the Bharat Ratna - she richly deserverd it.

cmlover
Posts: 11492
Joined: 02 Feb 2010, 17:06

Postby cmlover » 01 Aug 2009, 18:16

The following Q & A speaks millions about how the demise of DKP was received by the TN establishment

கேளà¯ÂÂ

VK RAMAN
Posts: 4291
Joined: 02 Feb 2010, 18:59
Location: U.S.A
Contact:

Postby VK RAMAN » 01 Aug 2009, 18:19

bigots

girish_a
Posts: 346
Joined: 03 Feb 2010, 08:03

Postby girish_a » 02 Aug 2009, 15:57

Translation please

cmlover
Posts: 11492
Joined: 02 Feb 2010, 17:06

Postby cmlover » 02 Aug 2009, 17:11

Though it is painful I still translate for your benefit:

Q: Cho (editor of the magazine Thuklak) has said that the chief minister has not expressed condolence for the demise of the Musician D K Pattammal?
(from V Ananthi Madras-2)
A: J (Jayalalitha) has already done so, is that not enough for Cho? At least he (Cho) had this to find fault on the Doctor (CM)! Great!

(Reply by K Veeramani the leader of the DK and editor of the magazine 'viDuthalai')

arasi
Posts: 12780
Joined: 22 Jun 2006, 04:00

Postby arasi » 02 Aug 2009, 20:26

It is never too late...
Forgetting for a moment her immense imprint on CM, forgetting the kind of human being she was, but just for the sake of her singing with fervor those great tamizh songs! For the way she sang every tamizh word in a crystal clear manner so that even a child could learn to sing those songs without making a mistake. For awakening a sense of patriotism among us by singing tamizh songs-- she needs to be honored by tamizh nADu.
avaL oru tamizhum pATTum vaLarta tAi (she was a mother figure who nourished tamizh and tamizh songs). I have no doubt MK and other leaders of TN hummed ADuvOmE paLLu pADuvOmE, veTRi eTTu dikkumeTTa, tonRU nigazhndadu, cinnanjiru kiLiyE and the countless songs they heard from all radios in the neighborhoods that they grew up in, the way they lined up to see movies like nAm iruvar.
When the government lavishes money on festivals and art projects of all kinds, it surely has to honor DKP by making her contributions known to future generations by celebrations every year with a festival, offering scholarships and offer studies of women like her, MS, MLV, KBS, other greats among men like SuddhAnanda bHArati, MMD and others, whose contributions to tamizh by way of muic is immense.
It is not necessary to have a statue in DKP's memory. Let there be living memorials for her kind so that their service to tamizh by way of music is well-recognized and this rich heritage is made available to the coming generations.
Ah, BArati who sang of freedom and the freedom of women. And the song birds who immortalized his verses!

cmlover
Posts: 11492
Joined: 02 Feb 2010, 17:06

Postby cmlover » 02 Aug 2009, 21:38

Well said arasi! She is a women liberationist too in a sense Bharati defined. The irony is that MK himself comes from a family with CM connections (I heard he trained to play nadaswaram as a boy!). It is in a way hilarious that MK who extols DK, belonging to DMK is failing to recognize DK P :)

arasi
Posts: 12780
Joined: 22 Jun 2006, 04:00

Postby arasi » 02 Aug 2009, 22:33

Let's be hopeful. His daughter Kanimozhi was trained in vINai and shows quite a bit of interest in CM. She is powerful too. Hope she exerts her influence both at home and in the cultural scene.

vainika
Posts: 417
Joined: 03 Feb 2010, 06:02

Postby vainika » 03 Aug 2009, 03:53

And one more on DKP titled 'Matriarch of music' by Gowri Ramnarayan
in the current Frontline (Volume 26 - Issue 16 :: Aug. 01-14, 2009)
http://www.frontlineonnet.com/stories/20090814261609900.htm

Was particularly moved to read the following

[i]The problem of "Who will marry a girl who performs in public?"

Gamakam
Posts: 233
Joined: 03 Feb 2010, 17:34

Postby Gamakam » 07 Aug 2009, 09:05

Last edited by Guest on 07 Aug 2009, 09:06, edited 1 time in total.

s_hari
Posts: 872
Joined: 20 May 2007, 13:15

Postby s_hari » 07 Aug 2009, 11:15

gamakam - well written articles. Keep writing

-hari

cmlover
Posts: 11492
Joined: 02 Feb 2010, 17:06

Postby cmlover » 07 Aug 2009, 14:30

gamakam
simply fascinating. Please share more of your writings. There are gems of information I have never heard before. Also share anecdotes that you know of other musical giants separately.

Many thanks...


Return to “Vidwans & Vidushis”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 2 guests